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Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 15:31:

Help with track

Ok this is as far as i have gotten with this.Its kind of a ruff edit as for the part where the trance lead and beat breaks in im tottaly scraping that.But i dont know if the strings are working with it and where to take it after the break down.

any advice would be great.

I have been using an Alesis Micron and fruity loops.I just record into wavelab and import waves into fruity.

here is a link to it

hxxp://www.geocities.com/happyfillmore2000/TrackSample.mp3

Replace x's with t's cuz stupid geocities doesnt allow links.

just replace x's with t's and copy into your address bar to play it


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 16:32:

bump


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 16:56:

*bump*


Posted by Aquarian on Jul-07-2005 17:12:

I'm not sure if by the 'strings' you mean that bassy synth thing, but yeah, those aren't working too well. Maybe if it had some filters and somekind of transformation to it? I love the way you layed down some of the percussions. Musically, it sounds alright. But alot of your synths don't have a really good sound to them. They sound almost preset-like. Maybe you could try looking for new sounds to replace them. As for what's after the buildup, I could see somesort of superstring playing long and high notes on top of that arp - but that's just me.

I can't really say much because I'm not sure what exactly you're asking. Also, you might have some better feedback in the producer promotion forum.

Good luck with the track. It needs work but it's a start and I think it's got potential.


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 17:35:

thanks

LoL i made half of the sounds on the micron but some were presets the strings were anyway but the heavy analog stab i created as for the bass which one do u mean the plucky on top of the lower bass i got two basses in there ones cut lower than the other and doesnt carry any delay.

Glad u like the percussion i used a mk28 drum machine for that kick and snare and some of the hats and the sticks/toms were from my micron.I created them from a preset that was a blip sound and i sat for an hour to create the stick sound with the reverb.

i like how the hats start almost like a melodey kinda cool.

i dont know if i wanna change the sounds tho cuz i have already gone too far and im afraid i will get a writers block or loose interest and mess it up.

when i start to make something i have like this groove going and i picture the track in my head but when i start changing stuff i get aggravated.

i mean its tottaly listenable but theres still a ton of work to do.

your right about adding sum sort of super string to it like make the strings cut high and bring the res up with more reverb and let them run as my lead after the breakdown maybe.

well see but thanks for the response it was much appreciated.


Posted by Aquarian on Jul-07-2005 18:17:

Re: thanks

quote:
Originally posted by Signal2005 i dont know if i wanna change the sounds tho cuz i have already gone too far and im afraid i will get a writers block or loose interest and mess it up.


You could always finish writing everything as is, and then save that for the end. It's kinda like remixing your own track.


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 18:27:

Hey thanks good idea

thanks alot man hey i changed the address of the track its nowlocated at

hxxp://www.geocities.com/happyfillmore2000/TrackSample.mp3

cuz my ftp got all messed up.


Posted by Chronosis on Jul-07-2005 19:30:

Well, imo the kick and bass should be more front, and that string more in the background. And it definately needs more drive. More high frequency percussions -shakers maybe. And an arpeggio playing in the mid - mid-low frequencies. Also, I think you have too much reverb, especially on the clap.


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 21:01:

Ok i added some maracas/shakers and i added not so much an appregiated lead but a hi frequency lead that sounds very acidy.I lowered the reverb on the snare and kick and i also took the lower bass and put some attack to it so it gives it a rise effect.I also lowered the first string line a bit.

tell me what you think now.

I didnt want to brink the kick up any higher tho cuz i dont want it to distort and over take the track i want the energy from the stab to give it what it needs.

its sounding really good on my end so far i gotta get some real monitors and a sound card tho lol im using pc speakers and a cheap soundcard


Posted by Chronosis on Jul-07-2005 21:25:

Sounds definitely better now. Hi freqs are good and I really like the lead you added. But it lacks some low end, I don't know if you can hear that on you pc-speakers.


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 22:45:

hmmm

I dont know what u mean by low end cuz im still a newb at this but i did fix that lead a little bit.I waited to attack on the 8th and built a small enveloped/semi gated rise to introduce the lead so it just doesnt come out of nowhere.

as for the lo end i dont know what to do with it.Im completely lost when it comes after the breakdown and im running low on cpu

heres the link to what ive done so far


hxxp://www.geocities.com/happyfillmore2000/TrackSample.mp3

moved my shit to geocities cuz tripod's being a bitch


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-08-2005 04:48:

Ok heres what ive done so far i decided to give it more atmosphere but not sureif its too much?

i added another set of strings i recorded from my micron its the same notes as the ones in the breakdown but with a higher notes up the scale.

Only thing is i got it running thru the same effects channel as the other deep strings and i dont know if that is limiting it too much.Should i start a whole new effects channel for them or keep them where they are or just scrap the second set of strings.

bit confused here is all

any advice would be much appreciated.

hxxp://www.geocities.com/happyfillmore2000/TrackSample.mp3


Posted by Chronosis on Jul-08-2005 07:36:

It's not too much... And sorry I was unclear, I meant the low end of the whole track. It lacks a bit of bass frequencies, compared to professional tracks.


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-08-2005 10:07:

ohh

maybe a low sub running thru out then


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-08-2005 18:32:

Added

Ok i added a appregiated lead from my micron on a low frequency to see if that will help.I gotta get some damn studio monitors and the damn cpu aint helping either.

It sounds preety full now but ill tell ya this is one of my favorite tracks i have ever done and the most heaviest hard one too.

its starting to sound really really good and im amazed.Ill tell ya the people on this board really bring out the best in ya

hxxp://www.geocities.com/happyfillmore2000/TrackSample.mp3


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-08-2005 19:54:

Added a low sub bass.I didnt want to put the volume too high with it tho cuzit didnt sound right.I put it so it provides a low fequency but doesnt let you know its there and i just used same notes as strings with a deep low sub bass.

check it out now tell me what you think


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-09-2005 01:39:

ALMOST FINISHED

Hey im halfway done lol and it doesnt sound too bad so far just unsure about the saw lead im currently attempting as im no good with trance leads buti figured id give it a shot.

would you even classify this trance?


Posted by twisted on Jul-09-2005 04:59:

chiiiiiiiiiiiill on the posts, man. just edit one post and compile all that info on there. also, bumping your 3 times, once in only fifteen minutes apart, is going to do nothing except annoy people. people are still going to read it if its half way down the page you know


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-09-2005 05:44:

Sorry bout that ijust wanna finish this damn thing but i needed help and i dont want to screw it up

this is the best work i ever done.


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-09-2005 15:39:

Yes this is my first time doing this and getting into it this much.Usually i get scared and never finish.I swear its like im afraid of my own track i get to a point where i dont want to screw it up and end up trashing it.

Thats only when i get something good going tho.Theres tracks i can finish in one day and be sorta happy with but this track is special.

Im so excited and im still tottaly in the zone.God bless fruity loops lol.



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