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Posted by davidjames on Jul-07-2005 20:49:

Advice-laptop

I know theres a few of these kind of threads kicking around at the moment..

But will one of the more technical minded people give some thoughts on these. Im looking at getting a laptop for production, and was kind of set on getting an apple until i saw these

The 4000 range is just out, so that could be an option, budget providing.



Thanks

david

Hereare the 4000's


Posted by DaMaul on Jul-07-2005 22:57:

Well I can *highly* recommend the Ferrari 3000 series laptops. I have a 3400 and use it as my main PC. It's damn powerful. If you get sick of making music on it you can play Halflife 2 / Doom 3 etc. on it! You will need to get some kind of USB / Firewire sound card for it in order to get into any serious music making though, but that's pretty much standard for all laptops.

The only downside of using the Ferrari as a music machine is the slow hard drive. Of course the hard drive speed only really matters if you're doing lots of audio file streaming. I remedied this by getting an external firewire drive, which works wonders.

I'm slightly annoyed that they've brought out the 4000 series already, I only bought mine about 6 months ago!!!


Posted by DigiNut on Jul-07-2005 23:05:

Don't ever buy anything with the letters "Acer" written, painted, or otherwise imprinted on it.


Posted by DaMaul on Jul-07-2005 23:08:

Well unless DigiNut can provide some constructive criticism, we can assume he's just talking out his arse. Both me & my mate are well pleased with the Ferrari notebooks.


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-07-2005 23:19:

well

If i was gonna spend the money on something thats gonna last i would go mac especially for music.

As for acer i never used on but i heard they can suck but like i said thats what i heard and i havent used em ever.


Posted by DigiNut on Jul-08-2005 01:35:

Um, how do you figure I'm going to provide "constructive" criticism on a mass-produced notebook? It's not like I'm talking to Acer's engineers here.

He asked about the Acer laptop, I gave an answer - the brand totally blows. They cut corners everywhere and their support is awful. That's why they're cheap (duh). Everything with Acer's name on it (or their spinoffs like AOpen) eventually causes major problems.

I work in IT. I've seen dozens of these cases. If you think I'm talking out of my ass, fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but you'll probably see things differently when that thing craps out on you.


Posted by syk0 on Jul-08-2005 04:55:

I like Sony laptops. I have had a vaio for several years.

The most important thing on a modern laptop will be the amount of RAM. Get as much as you can, and before getting a faster CPU. Try to get an AMD based model if you can. Asus & IBM are good brands, too.

Here (price in pounds):

967.96 Sony - VGN-A115B - Vaio A115B Centrino 1.5Ghz 512MB 60GB 15 DVD+/-RW

Best offer: 895.52 IBM - TJ07QUK - TS R50PM 1.5GHz 256MB 60GB

Best offer: 1,010.21 Asus - W1743NUP

http://www.priceguideuk.com/search....supplierid=-999

Also remember laptops are 'theif bait' so keep a close eye on it and maybe get a lock!


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-08-2005 05:35:

I bet im the only person you know who got 2 brand new laptops stolen from lol.

my hp got stolen at work and my toshiba got stolen out of my house.

in total i lost $3500.00 dollars i fucking hate laptops and i wont be buying another thats for damn sure.

i like my desktop easily upgradable and big enough not easily to get jacked.


Posted by davidjames on Jul-08-2005 08:15:

Thanks for the input everyone.

My concern over the Acer notebook is that it seems to be a bit of a gimmick, they don't seem especially reknowned for making brilliant computers, then teaming up with Ferrari to maybe raise their profile.
However, Ive not read a bad review on the ferrari noteboks and everybody seems to rate them, so maybe they have pulled it off with these?..

I had my mind set on an Apple for a long time and is still very much an option, but im unsure about the operating system etc, which im sure would be easy enough to pick up with time.

I'll check out the IBM, Asus.


Thanks


Posted by hardikaveri on Jul-08-2005 08:35:

forgot acer
!!!


i have heard lot of crap of it... breaks.. warrantyrepair not working..


try new fujitsu siemens amilos with 256mb videocard!!!

1 of the best laptops last year was amilo a 1680 with 3700+ and radeon 9700 pro..but this new amilo has new 2.xx mghz processor witch decreses teperature but still same power


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-08-2005 10:09:

Get Alienware And Customize It


Posted by hardikaveri on Jul-08-2005 13:09:

alienware is far too overprized..

but those look good


Posted by Signal2005 on Jul-08-2005 15:33:

Find someone that will build you one.Like a local pc tech u pick the parts u will save a ton of money thatway.


Posted by jupiterone on Jul-08-2005 16:55:

alienware is shit.they rip you off like shit for components that you can buy cheaper by half.


Posted by davidjames on Jul-12-2005 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DaMaul
Well I can *highly* recommend the Ferrari 3000 series laptops. I have a 3400 and use it as my main PC. It's damn powerful. If you get sick of making music on it you can play Halflife 2 / Doom 3 etc. on it! You will need to get some kind of USB / Firewire sound card for it in order to get into any serious music making though, but that's pretty much standard for all laptops.



Thanks for the info people.

Can anyone recommend and decent/cheapish external soundcards as mostly only the internal ones get covered on the forums.
Also what would be the difference in performance on the USB to the Firewire?


Posted by DaMaul on Jul-12-2005 22:39:

Apparently USB 2.0 and Firewire 400 are roughly the same in terms of raw speed, however, overall system performance is better with firewire as for some reason firewire causes less CPU overhead. There is also a new firewire standard called firewire 800 I believe which is bound to be even better, but I don't think there's any external soundcards which currently use it.

Having said that, I use a Novation X-Station with my laptop which only uses USB 1! As far as I know USB 1 is easily fast enough to cope with a stereo audio stream.

Hope thats accurate and helpful!


Posted by davidjames on Jul-26-2005 14:36:

Hi there,

If anyones interested, ive just decided and bought this, i went for alienware in the end..

Alienware area51m 5620DS 3.06GHz Hyperthreading laptop:

* INTEL PENTIUM 4 3.06GHZ 512K L2 CACHE 533MHZ FSB

* 1024MB RAM(512MB DDR PC2100 SO-DIMM MEMORY X2)

*ATI RADEON 9000 (128MB) RUNNING ON CATALYST 5.6 DRIVER

* NOTEBOOK 60GB 5400RPM HD

* 24X DVD CD-RW COMBO

* 5620 3.5 3-MODE FLOPPY DISK DRIVE

*NERO EXPRESS WITH NERO VISION EXPRESS SOFTWARE BUNDLE

*WIRELESS MINI-PCI 802.11 A+B MODULE

Should be with me in the next few days, im still undecided on an external sound card. Going to start having a proper look around now..


Posted by DJ_Ikronix on Jul-26-2005 20:18:

Alienware is overpriced, but they have very, very good support. Good job avoiding Acer, that brand is utter shit.



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