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The terrible fate of the blind leading the blind

In a sad sort of way it's kind of funny, but this article reminds me of our current state in American politics and our apathetic, languishing masses whom either blindly or acceptingly consumes it's propaganda.


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that happened in turkey. there were 1,500 sheeps and only 450 died. You see? some survived maybe the "languishing masses whom either blindly or acceptingly consumes it's propaganda." Trancer-X do yuo really belief things in other countries are any different here?

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Trancer-X do yuo really belief things in other countries are any different here?

Would you mind decifering that for me? I'd like to figure out what you're trying to ask.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Would you mind decifering that for me? I'd like to figure out what you're trying to ask.

yeah that was written really bad. Ok, what I was trying to ask was do you believe that Americans are the first to fall for propaganda? I mean not everyone is accepting what the government tells us. So to make this shorter and hopefully you will understand the question. Are Americans any different than what the Germans were under Nazis or are Americans the only masses where they fall for everthing the government tells us?

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid yeah that was written really bad. Ok, what I was trying to ask was do you believe that Americans are the first to fall for propaganda? I mean not everyone is accepting what the government tells us. So to make this shorter and hopefully you will understand the question. Are Americans any different than what the Germans were under Nazis or are Americans the only masses where they fall for everthing the government tells us?

I don't see how we could be any more predisposed to fall for propaganda, if that's what you're asking.

I had a distant relative (my grandmom's second cousin or something of a similar relation) who was in the S.S., while both of my grandfathers (who were also of German descent) fought for the U.S. against the Germans during WWII. Of course, I also had relatives that fought for opposing sides during the Civil War, but that's an entirely different story.

I think it's more or less a na�vet� that runs through the entire human race. We want to be able to trust our leaders, especially during times of turmoil or difficulty. For me, however, they lost my trust quite some time ago - when I first discovered their hypocritical, seemingly malevolent policies which had clandestinely been put into place. I guess I've just grown to be cynical.

Anyway, WWII was another sham imposed on our world by a handful of wealthy industrialists and Wall Street financiers.

http://jewish.com/modules.php?name=...e=print&sid=769

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NH...=NN_Bush_Nazi_2

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org...rticle=BushCh02

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story...1312540,00.html

Trance? Oh something else...

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Anyway, WWII was another sham imposed on our world by a handful of wealthy industrialists and Wall Street financiers.

If you are going to tell me that the industries began World War II, I must ask, did you you take your meds this morning? The industries did seek to profit off of the war, at times in ways that are embarassing. However, to say it was the industries that began the war is just incorrect. If you want to talk about the blind leading the blind, it applies to all those who believe themselves to be educated above the masses and therefore sources of the 'correct' information at all times.

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Originally posted by kush paintings If you want to talk about the blind leading the blind, it applies to all those who believe themselves to be educated above the masses and therefore sources of the 'correct' information at all times.

+3 that was really well said.

The end of "The Pied Piper of Hamelin"

A shiver of fear ran through the councillors, but the Mayor shrugged and said excitedly: "We've saved fifty thousand florins!"

That night, freed from the nightmare of the rats, the citizens of Hamelin slept more soundly than ever. And when the strange sound of piping wafted through the streets at dawn, only the children heard it. Drawn as by magic, they hurried out of their homes. Again, the pied piper paced through the town, this time, it was children of all sizes that flocked at his heels to the sound of his strange piping. The long procession soon left the town and made its way through the wood and across the forest till it reached the foot of a huge mountain.

When the piper came to the dark rock, he played his pipe even louder still and a great door creaked open. Beyond lay a cave. In trooped the children behind the pied piper, and when the last child had gone into the darkness, the door reaked shut. A great landslide came down the mountain blocking the entrance to the cave forever. Only one little lame boy escaped this fate. It was he who told the anxious citizens, searching for their children, what had happened.

And no matter what people did, the mountain never gave up its victims. Many years were to pass before the merry voices of other children would ring through the streets of Hamelin but the memory of the harsh lesson lingered in everyone's heart and was passed down from father to son through the centuries.

I don't want to misinterpret why you posted that story, so perhaps you could enlighten me.

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Originally posted by kush paintings If you are going to tell me that the industries began World War II, I must ask, did you you take your meds this morning? The industries did seek to profit off of the war, at times in ways that are embarassing. However, to say it was the industries that began the war is just incorrect. If you want to talk about the blind leading the blind, it applies to all those who believe themselves to be educated above the masses and therefore sources of the 'correct' information at all times.

Yeah, you've been taught many lies. And no, this is not a dream - it's not even the Matrix.



http://www.reformed-theology.org/ht...reet/index.html


and if you think that I'm a conspiracy theorist, check out Hoover. LOL

http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?...&storyid=215330

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid +3 that was really well said.

Keep in mind how the masses have been manipulated throughout all of recorded history. When are people going to finally wake up? Probably not as long as there are knuckleheads like metalgearsolid, content to be sitting at home playing some stupid video game while the fate of his country (along with everyone's personal freedoms) could be in jeopardy.

I just find it funny how more people don't question what happens in our government. I mean, Congress wasn't even told until a while later that a shadow government had been put into place - so what makes you so certain that we the people will never be tricked into being brainwashed and/or rounded up, like the Germans were in Nazi Germany?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002...ain502530.shtml

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"Executive Order No. 11490 is real, and only the lack of a crisis big enough, a president willing enough, and a public aroused enough to permit it to be invoked, separates us from a possible dictatorship, brought about under current law, waiting to be implemented in the event of circumstances which can be construed as a `national emergency.'" http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/fema_law.htm

that article was written almost 15 years ago, btw

Trancer-X, although I have nothing but contempt for conspiracy theorists, I will go through the link you have provided to better learn where you are comming from and perhaps learn a thing or two. The problem I find, is the lack of trust I place in many sources that so called "truth crusaders" allude to. I realize that mainstream media is not reliable, therefore making it difficult to trust them too, but I would first place my trust somewhere that I at least know people are checking up on stories assuring their validity. If you have the time and are willing to educate, give me more "solid" sources, or at least tell me why I should trust the ones you have given me. In the mean time, I will try to read the links you have given me.

http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml




http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/di...13157/index.php

http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum...f=23&i=112&t=86

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Originally posted by kush paintings Trancer-X, although I have nothing but contempt for conspiracy theorists, I will go through the link you have provided to better learn where you are comming from and perhaps learn a thing or two. The problem I find, is the lack of trust I place in many sources that so called "truth crusaders" allude to. I realize that mainstream media is not reliable, therefore making it difficult to trust them too, but I would first place my trust somewhere that I at least know people are checking up on stories assuring their validity. If you have the time and are willing to educate, give me more "solid" sources, or at least tell me why I should trust the ones you have given me. In the mean time, I will try to read the links you have given me.

Don't go out of your way or anything. I mean, it's cool to be ignorant, right?

If it's not too much of a bother, maybe you could check out Congressman McDermott's query in the post below yours.

http://villagevoice.com/news/0236,hentoff,38006,6.html

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/12/302870.html

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5675992/site/newsweek/



http://www.fas.org/sgp/index.html

now signing up for gov list #30948097403408

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2...21/byrdremarks/

http://www.savethemales.ca/000834.html

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/...n_story_related

omg man too much material
slow down

Re: now signing up for gov list #30948097403408

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Originally posted by Trancer-X http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2...21/byrdremarks/ http://www.savethemales.ca/000834.html

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Keep in mind how the masses have been manipulated throughout all of recorded history. When are people going to finally wake up? Probably not as long as there are knuckleheads like metalgearsolid, content to be sitting at home playing some stupid video game while the fate of his country (along with everyone's personal freedoms) could be in jeopardy. I just find it funny how more people don't question what happens in our government. I mean, Congress wasn't even told until a while later that a shadow government had been put into place - so what makes you so certain that we the people will never be tricked into being brainwashed and/or rounded up, like the Germans were in Nazi Germany?

Hey don't you ever insult videogames

Yea I don't care anymore Trancer-X there will never be a time when I will know the truth and neither will you. You can go to all those websites and seriously belief that just because their not fox or cnn means their realible but that is not the case. Information is being giving many tweaks even the ones on the internet because they need to make money or they believe that somehow this will bring the truth out. But it won't and the truth will never be told by the Government and as long as the Government doesn't talk; the truth will never be known.

Ever since FDR signed the "New Deal" that was the beginning of the end for us. We will have to wait and see what happens in the future..

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Keep in mind how the masses have been manipulated throughout all of recorded history. When are people going to finally wake up? Probably not as long as there are knuckleheads like metalgearsolid, content to be sitting at home playing some stupid video game while the fate of his country (along with everyone's personal freedoms) could be in jeopardy. I just find it funny how more people don't question what happens in our government. I mean, Congress wasn't even told until a while later that a shadow government had been put into place - so what makes you so certain that we the people will never be tricked into being brainwashed and/or rounded up, like the Germans were in Nazi Germany?

Third time writing this so I am going to make this shorter

1) never diss videogames

2) the truth will never be known by me or you

3) Information on the internet can't always be realiable just becasue they are not fox or cnn.

4) The truth is only known by the government and as long as the government doesn't talk we will never know the truth.

5) that Bullshit on the shadow government is nothing new they have been there for over 50yrs.

6) Our liberties have been going down hill since FDR signed the 'new deal'

7) We are at the American version of the nazis rounding up ppl. Do you seriously believe that the American government doesn't kill its own citizens for seeing something they shouldn't have seen?

8) its that thing about our government we think we are free their for we don't question thats what the US government probably wanted all along.

9) I will be waiting for your response till then see you later.

Trancer-X, easy on the tone, I was agreeing to read your articles, even though I have a load of stuff to do. My life doesn't revovle around checking out articles of sources I have no idea are credible or not. ONCE AGAIN: tell me why I should believe these sources you have provided.

That being said I read the article on Executive Order 1149. I am still trying to find out who wrote the article and exactly how reliable the site was that it was published on.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.co...tive_orders.htm

This, very similar site provides not only the same article, but even a nice summary of all the Executive Orders. If you browse around the site you will see the people who run this a two fries short of a happy meal.

There are some articles written on there that are just downright slanderous. However, I am intrigued with what you are presenting so, I only ask for your help to show that the authors and sources you have provided are to be trusted.

I think it can be safely established, the last site I posted does nothing to go out of its way and actually prove the statements written in their articles, therefore the sight is unreliable. The next sight that this article, written by Diana Reynolds, appeared in was an organization website called "the Public Eye: Website of Political Research Associates". This looked very promissing, however if you browse around the website you will that there is a strong political leaning on it. They even have ann article entitled, Drifting Right and Going Wrong. I am not saying this is enough to discredit this sight, but it clearly is a site that has a strong political leaning. If I am not going to get my news from Fox, why the hell should I get it from here.

http://www.publiceye.org/frontpage/overview.html

What I am trying to do, is find if any clearly, credible sights have this article posted, because I do not know the credibility of the original site. However, it seems as though it is 0 for 2.

Oh, and by the way, here is a link to the original site, to simply show the integrity of the source you have provided.

http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/bushnose.htm

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