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Oldies that could need a remake

After seeing all nice classics being raped by hordes of half talents in the last two years I would like to ask you which tracks you think that could need a remake? Maybe it's a track that still is very good when you listen to it but even originally it was too simply produced. And maybe the studio sound of today could do it more justice.

One of those tracks I come to think of is Dance 2 Trance - We Came In Peace. It's a lovely track but I think it could be freshned up really nice. I am not talking about a remake by geckos such as Above & Beyond, Tiesto, DJ Danjo & Styles, Smith & Pledger etc. It gotta be someone which cherish the original track good enough to handle it with care (such as J00f did with Caf� Del Mar).

Give some examples plz 8)

Well I think there should be a rule if a track is remade, no matter who does it.

It should be EXACTLY the same as the original. But it should be remade on more modern equipment. No cheesy strings, no supersaws, no extra breakdown, no fluffy extra instruments.

EXACTLY the same, without any changes. The exact same tune, made on new equipment.

That way you take an original track and give it a modern sound.


Some of the older remakes were good tho. J00f did a good job with Cafe del Mar, but so did Marco V. Whereas J00fs mix was as you say, handled with care, Marco V's was outlandish enough to work. It wasnt cheesy, it was banging, and it worked very well.

yes I agree about that it should be remade in a modern studio. no cheesy breaks/vocals etc added.

One of the best remakes has to be Ricky Smith's remake of youknowwhat. That said, I really can't think of anything at this moment. But if it was to be a trance remake, I'd defo entrust the tickling task to DB.

I would love to see Flutlicht remix Rodd-Y-Ler - Lifesigns

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred One of the best remakes has to be Ricky Smith's remake of youknowwhat. That said, I really can't think of anything at this moment. But if it was to be a trance remake, I'd defo entrust the tickling task to DB.

yeah the digital blondes remix of Li Kwan - Point Zero is still the nr 1 remake I ever heard.
it's mindblowing and puts all other remakers to shame.

Y-Traxx - Mysteryland

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Originally posted by Project 7 Y-Traxx - Mysteryland

that was remade not that long ago.

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Originally posted by THE_Chris It should be EXACTLY the same as the original. But it should be remade on more modern equipment. No cheesy strings, no supersaws, no extra breakdown, no fluffy extra instruments.

Pardon my ignorance but what is a supersaw?

Meridian - A LongTime 2003 - Lost In Time 2003 (Carlo Resoort Remix) side B is also one of the best IMO. I'm sure RebeL9 will agree. :-)

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson Pardon my ignorance but what is a supersaw?

its a type of synth sound sused for those big epic leads.

as to not using them, what if the original track had them to begin with?

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Meridian - A LongTime 2003 - Lost In Time 2003 (Carlo Resoort Remix) side B is also one of the best IMO. I'm sure RebeL9 will agree. :-)

yeah fuckin mint tune. glad it was ID:ed

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Originally posted by RebeL9 yeah fuckin mint tune. glad it was ID:ed

yea, if i remember aright, it was ID'd thanks to our joint effort and the individual who ID'd it. ;p
seems like it was only released as a white label too.

i'm still trying to get that other j00f tune ID'd from the same Nov. 03' GTG set :/
mebbe i should post it up again...

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Originally posted by RebeL9 One of those tracks I come to think of is Dance 2 Trance - We Came In Peace.

No.


And what are you talking about with exactly the same with "updated" equipment? If you made it exactly the same with the exact same sounds it would sound EXACTLY THE SAME AS IN 1990. It doesn't sound dated to you because the technology of sound has advanced light years since then, it sounds dated to you because it lacks overproduction in the form of sweeping strings...wash effects...note changes..., and to you anything that doesn't have this is "dated".

Sounds don't become dated or old or obsolete. They only wax and wane in usage and fanbase. The problem isn't the music, it's you. The TB-303 was used extensively in 1987, and it will still be used 20 years later whether you have heard of the artist or not. There's nothing wrong with or old about the sound it makes. It's just a gimmick idea most producers used to fool idiots into thinking their music is better because it's newer.

I would like to see a proper remix made of Airwave - When Things Go Wrong. not that bs 2003 remix...but something that added new elements to it...while retaining the basic structure of the track

Cafe Del Mar

What a shame....

It's ashame how many people butcher the word 'remix'. A remix is actually going back to the multi-track and working from there. Some examples are:
1)Cerrone - Je Suis Music as opposed to Cerrone - Je Suis Music
(Armand Van Helden remix).
2)Kobbe & Austin Leeds - Fusing Love and then Kobbe & Austin Leeds - Fusing Love (Leeds & Schulz mix).
The purpose of a remix is to improve on the original. In fact most of us would not be able to perform a true remix of a song unless we had connections with the original artist to consent/commission or allow for us to have the mutli-track and remix from the studio.

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808 It's ashame how many people butcher the word 'remix'. A remix is actually going back to the multi-track and working from there. Some examples are: 1)Cerrone - Je Suis Music as opposed to Cerrone - Je Suis Music (Armand Van Helden remix). 2)Kobbe & Austin Leeds - Fusing Love and then Kobbe & Austin Leeds - Fusing Love (Leeds & Schulz mix). The purpose of a remix is to improve on the original. In fact most of us would not be able to perform a true remix of a song unless we had connections with the original artist to consent/commission or allow for us to have the mutli-track and remix from the studio.

Please, G-d, make it stop, kthx.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil It doesn't sound dated to you because the technology of sound has advanced light years since then, it sounds dated to you because it lacks overproduction in the form of sweeping strings...wash effects...note changes..., and to you anything that doesn't have this is "dated".

may I suggest a trip to the clue shop? i hear there's a sale on

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Originally posted by kr00t0n I would love to see Flutlicht remix Rodd-Y-Ler - Lifesigns

Sure you would. You have probably heard the 2002 remixes of it? I've only heard the "Vengeance Remix", it's pretty good, but no match for the original.

Best remake I've heard is Gollum & Gary D. feat. DJ Yanny - Black Arrows Reloaded [Gary D. Hardbass Mix] So great, it sounds so evil. Almost better than the original.

As for tracks to be remixed: Dyno - Galaxi would be interesting. Has anybody ever heard this? Seems that I'm the only one mentioning it.

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Originally posted by isoterra may I suggest a trip to the clue shop? i hear there's a sale on

Altern8- Activ8

If ever there was a track crying out for a remix that doesn't make it sound so horrifically dated, this is it.

And Radagast, despite your "retro is pure" attitude, stuff from 1991 does tend to have poor production that will only keep on getting worse. The 909 may stay in use, but people know how to get meatier kicks out of it these days. Older trance tends to lack the bass it needs to be mixed with anything not from its time. Add painful percussion and a spartan sound drawn from nothing but the technological limitations of the time and you have a result that an update can add a bit of longevity to an idea. Because adding sound washes and sweeping strings isn't remaking it straight up- it's adding lots of new shit to it.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil No. And what are you talking about with exactly the same with "updated" equipment? If you made it exactly the same with the exact same sounds it would sound EXACTLY THE SAME AS IN 1990. It doesn't sound dated to you because the technology of sound has advanced light years since then, it sounds dated to you because it lacks overproduction in the form of sweeping strings...wash effects...note changes..., and to you anything that doesn't have this is "dated". Sounds don't become dated or old or obsolete. They only wax and wane in usage and fanbase. The problem isn't the music, it's you. The TB-303 was used extensively in 1987, and it will still be used 20 years later whether you have heard of the artist or not. There's nothing wrong with or old about the sound it makes. It's just a gimmick idea most producers used to fool idiots into thinking their music is better because it's newer.

No.

The production quality is better these days.

back in the 80s most the samplers were in mono and at 11khz. These days they are in stereo and the sample rates are 44.1khz +.

therefore the sound quality of the overall production would be more punchy and full.

airscape - pacific melody

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Originally posted by JakeC No. The production quality is better these days. back in the 80s most the samplers were in mono and at 11khz. These days they are in stereo and the sample rates are 44.1khz +. therefore the sound quality of the overall production would be more punchy and full.

And the mastering of newer tracks pisses all over old tracks, IMO.

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