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Posted by Pinokio on Jul-11-2005 01:59:

CDJ's or Turntables?

I've been practicing for a while with software (Traktor DJ Studio),

and now i want to get some cdj's or Turntables

If I get Turntables i'm planning to get also Serato or Final Scratch

also if I get serato or Final Scratch, does it really matter the quality of the turntable??


The Cdj's will be cheaper, , coz witht he other softwar ei need a new ocmputer and other stuff,
but is it really worth to spend about 1000$(Us Dollars) more?

Take in mind that I've been wanting to Dj since 5 or 6 years ago,

finally I think i'm gonna make the money, and I wanna make a good inversion, dont wanna make mistakes about it.

Thank You...


Posted by Ted Promo on Jul-11-2005 02:34:

You're in the same boat as I am then. Though I think I've settled on wanting cdjs just due to the money factor. But yeah, I've decided I wanted to start djing and I want to get the good stuff to start off with. Though it'll cost a boatload


Posted by Greedy on Jul-11-2005 04:37:

try doin a search on this topic!


Posted by Pinokio on Jul-11-2005 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
try doin a search on this topic!


Already did a search


Posted by fr3sh on Jul-11-2005 22:13:

yeah i started 6 months ago... i have the technics 1200's and a cdj 1000 mk2... i will be getting a second one very soon... totally worth it to get industry standard equipment because this is the equipment that you will be using at any half decent night club

go big........ or just make like a stray dog and go home... lol


Posted by fr3sh on Jul-11-2005 22:13:

yeah i started 6 months ago... i have the technics 1200's and a cdj 1000 mk2... i will be getting a second one very soon... totally worth it to get industry standard equipment because this is the equipment that you will be using at any half decent night club

go big........ or just make like a stray dog and go home... lol


Posted by Inertia on Jul-11-2005 23:18:

even with SSL or FS, you will need a good turntable. you�ll still be spinning a vinyl, only it will be a special one...

CDJs are a lot more expensive than turntables. and i wouldn�t recommend buying second hand, unless you trust the buyer. that�s the ind of thing you either buy from a friend, or new.

either way, GET GOOD STUFF.


Posted by NessTormented on Jul-12-2005 06:15:

depends

It really depends on how much your willing to go to be a DJ.

Naturally, vinyl and tables sound much better (and are much more classy) than CDJ. Of course, vinyl nowadays is alot harder to find, and burning CDs is easy while plating your own vinyl can cost hundreds. My suggestion is to look at how soon you want to be a DJ, and of course, what kind of music you are going to play.

If you want to DJ right now and for less hassle, go with CDJ.

If you want quality over quantity, go with tables.


Posted by Zild on Jul-12-2005 14:16:

A major reason I spin only vinyl, other than monetary constraints, is because I wouldn't be able to find 90% of the tracks I own on a digital download/cd website.


Posted by RJT on Jul-12-2005 16:05:

God I love to hear all the bashing of CDJ's...



3 X CDJ...

Good Luck...


Posted by alligator on Jul-12-2005 16:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
God I love to hear all the bashing of CDJ's...



3 X CDJ...

Good Luck...


one quick question: "why do you feel you (by you i mean everyone) have to bash someone's choise of tools to mix?" whether they are cdj's or tt's (a computer program that automatically beat matches is not dj so it cannot be included)


Posted by fr3sh on Jul-12-2005 17:19:

use both... i do... works great... enough said


Posted by Pinokio on Jul-12-2005 21:11:

Hey I didn't start this thread to ask if Cdj's are real dj's or not,or vinyl are real or not.


I know both can be good,
I just wanted and advice of what equipment to get.

Thanks-->


Posted by Rhue on Jul-13-2005 00:05:

Use Both!

but start of with vinyl aka Technics Mk2 and above, the nukmarks are nice TTs too

You don't really need a freaking cdj1000 or anything so soon. Check out the new cdj200, it plays mp3s aswell and has nice effects

Personally i don't think u'll need a cdj1000 as long as you have vinyls with you. Just my opinion, as i'll be more than happy with cdj200s or the ADJ cdi-500s with the scratch feature (not that i scratch or anything).

The DVJ on the other hand is another story!


Posted by RJT on Jul-13-2005 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by alligator
one quick question: "why do you feel you (by you i mean everyone) have to bash someone's choise of tools to mix?" whether they are cdj's or tt's (a computer program that automatically beat matches is not dj so it cannot be included)


LOL, I'm not bashing anyone M8...

I started on Vinyl, then moved to CDJ's for two reasons:

1. Economics of buying tracks (Uni Student = Little to no money the majority of the time)

2. Versatility and Innovation

I've just been lucky enough to learn a few things that make running 3 CDJ's more fun, creative, and stimulating than when I just had my 1200's...

To each their own though...


Posted by Axolotyl on Jul-13-2005 04:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Pinokio
Hey I didn't start this thread to ask if Cdj's are real dj's or not,or vinyl are real or not.


I know both can be good,
I just wanted and advice of what equipment to get.

Thanks-->


Want my advice...? Read the Vinyl vs CD thread stickied at the top of the page. Not only will it provide you with hours of amusement and may actually answer your question, but you will realise how futile and pointless this dumb ass fucking debate really is. While your there, fire up DJ Lithium with a comment like "your grandma uses CD decks" or something stupid... and watch him go... its fucking hilarious...


Posted by RJT on Jul-13-2005 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
Want my advice...? Read the Vinyl vs CD thread stickied at the top of the page. Not only will it provide you with hours of amusement and may actually answer your question, but you will realise how futile and pointless this dumb ass fucking debate really is. While your there, fire up DJ Lithium with a comment like "your grandma uses CD decks" or something stupid... and watch him go... its fucking hilarious...


+Fucking 1... Well said M8...

...

I'm certainly no fan of DJ Lithium though, that anti-CD bastard


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-13-2005 09:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
LOL, I'm not bashing anyone M8...

I started on Vinyl, then moved to CDJ's for two reasons:

1. Economics of buying tracks (Uni Student = Little to no money the majority of the time)

2. Versatility and Innovation

I've just been lucky enough to learn a few things that make running 3 CDJ's more fun, creative, and stimulating than when I just had my 1200's...

To each their own though...


I agree with this completely. i've mentioned it before but i'm thinking about selling my decks and getting cdj's. especially with all of the digital download stores that are springing up nowadays, where else can you get a dj-quality single without having to leave to go to the record store, or spend a shit-ton of money on expensive shipping from europe? that and you can record all the records you own, so you're not wasting money buying vinyl.


Posted by alligator on Jul-13-2005 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
LOL, I'm not bashing anyone M8...

I started on Vinyl, then moved to CDJ's for two reasons:

1. Economics of buying tracks (Uni Student = Little to no money the majority of the time)

2. Versatility and Innovation

I've just been lucky enough to learn a few things that make running 3 CDJ's more fun, creative, and stimulating than when I just had my 1200's...

To each their own though...


i didn't mean as you personaly are bashing the usage of cd players...
but there are the few outthere that simply refuse to consider swtiching from their trusty tt's. yes you may have your reasons...but remember it's all about the music.

anyhow dj lithium is a great dj, yes i read the sticy and yes he's hilarious when he bashes cd usage. but let's not forget he's been djing for ages...so you can't really teach an old dog new tricks


another point...the DVJ...that is just simply amazing...to bad it will cost you about 15 grand to get all the equipment. you need a specific mixer, and screens....etc great idea overall (i wonder what lithium has to say about them)


Posted by Axolotyl on Jul-14-2005 01:26:

This has to be my all time favourite Lithium quote... infact, its going in my sig

quote:
Originally posted by djlithium
Most if not all digital DJs will play anything they can get their mitts on thats cheap or free that has a beat and sounds "trippy" (there is your reason as to why psy-trance is still around). Well that doesn't mean there is any "taste" in the selection available or those "purchased" and played by digital djs.


The guy is hilarious... I love him


Posted by Pinokio on Jul-14-2005 09:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
This has to be my all time favourite Lithium quote... infact, its going in my sig



The guy is hilarious... I love him




You can not spin Psy-Trance, and if you arte ware normal tranco come from Psy-Trance it was the beginning, and it's very complex music, maybe you just are not that smart to understand it.


Posted by Spirit5 on Jul-18-2005 03:24:

I'm actually getting CDJ 800s in a few weeks. I got rid of my Numark TTXs and bought Technics 1210 MK5s last week, and I know this might sound crazy, but I took them back. I really wanted CDJs this summer as well, and I couldn't get both, due to lack of space for both and money. I have been buying less and less vinyl this past year and don't have the room or money to keep it up. I figured with online stores like AudioJelly and AnjunaDigitial, I could get high quality MP3s for less money and more of them than vinyl records. I've been really bored with playing the same tunes over and over, and just playing trance (which is what I mostly have) so buying and downloading MP3s for a little over a dollar a piece is a better deal in my opinion than spending 9.99 + 5.00 shipping for a record from DanceRecords.com. There are not many record shops around this area that sell trance and prog, mostly house and techno (detroit techno that is) and hip hop, so I have had to order the tunes I like online. Possibly in the future I'll start up again with Techs, or whatever else, unless CDs or Ableton Live takes over the DJing world...


Posted by Spirit5 on Jul-18-2005 03:36:

And to add this is just a hobby for me so I personally think if DJing is your hobby, CDs are prolly the best bet, unless you have the money and the space for records. If your a guy like me living with your parents for now (i'm 20 and in college), having all this vinyl is costly and takes up space. Vinyl seems to not last as long as CDs and has to be cleaned much more often. My dad has CDs that are 16 years old that are scratched up and still sound great, while I have some records from two years ago that are slightly scratched up, and even with a high end cartridge (whitelabels) and cleaning the record with this GruvGlide stuff...it still sounded bad...don't get me wrong i love the feel of vinyl (and am missing it) but I had a lot of the songs i have on vinyl(or could have bought now online) on MP3, and have spent over a thousand dollars on records, and I only have about 160 records (could have had a thousand MP3s if AudioJelly or other stores like this were around two years ago!)


Posted by Nocturnal151 on Jul-18-2005 03:39:

What about a yamaha RM!X Hooked up to Tracktor

Using a Yamaha RM1X and Tractor DJ Studio and to be honest i like it better than the pioneer cmx-1000 cd players. You can hook up numerous different Midi Devices to Tractor. You could DJ on a midi Piano if you wanted.


Posted by Spirit5 on Jul-18-2005 03:45:

Re: What about a yamaha RM!X Hooked up to Tracktor

quote:
Originally posted by Nocturnal151
Using a Yamaha RM1X and Tractor DJ Studio and to be honest i like it better than the pioneer cmx-1000 cd players. You can hook up numerous different Midi Devices to Tractor. You could DJ on a midi Piano if you wanted.



Yeah there are many different ways to DJ now...even with Ipods. I started on MixMeister, which I still have, but I feel in love with mixing on vinyl, it just allows someone to have more control. The cool thing with players like CDJ 800 or the CDJ 1000 MK2 (would be a dream to have but too damn expensive) is that they feel like vinyl, so a guy like me that spun on vinyl for two years and learned on that, going to CDJs for now will feel more natural. Mixing on software is fine, but I personally feel that you loose the hands on experience of it, but if your someone who just wants to make mixed CDs for their friends or themselves and don't look to play out (I aspire to at least play out someday in the future although it is still a hobby and don't aspire be a pro DJ) then software is much less expensive.


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