Do the MK5s have the same quartz lock problem?

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Posted by colombian raver on Jul-13-2005 02:57:

Do the MK5s have the same quartz lock problem?

Normally I never thouch the platter when mixing, the only time I use it is to fix cueing mistakes because I dont like to move the pitch when it's perfectly matched. So I got the MK5 thinking they had fixed the problem where the platter speeds up or slows down to compensate the touching of the platter, but it looks like it's still there. Does anyone have a hack for the MK5 just like the one for the MK2 that fixes the problem? I'm also kind of nervous about messing with my first brand new Technics so if there is any kind of risk involved I wont do it so I want to know if it's really worth it and it is not risky.

Thanks.

Posted by djkoolaide on Jul-13-2005 03:57:

eh... or just touch the record instead of the platter.

Posted by colombian raver on Jul-13-2005 04:55:

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Originally posted by djkoolaide
eh... or just touch the record instead of the platter.

That works, but its kind of hard to adjust the speed of the record without changing the platters at all.

Posted by ��|E on Jul-13-2005 05:06:

ummmmmmmmm, if you "flick" the vinyl forward (speed it up) then the platter isnt going to speed up unless your slipmats are like glue.

The platter will stay at the same speed, if you are so concerned about the tiniest extra speed up ur giving it when you "flick" the vinyl, then i'd have to say get better slipmats?

Posted by colombian raver on Jul-13-2005 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by ��|E
ummmmmmmmm, if you "flick" the vinyl forward (speed it up) then the platter isnt going to speed up unless your slipmats are like glue.

The platter will stay at the same speed, if you are so concerned about the tiniest extra speed up ur giving it when you "flick" the vinyl, then i'd have to say get better slipmats?

Yeah thats probaly it right there. I'm still using the technics slipmats that came with the turntable so thats probably why everything I do to the record also happens to the platter besides holding it still.

Posted by djkoolaide on Jul-13-2005 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by colombian raver
Yeah thats probaly it right there. I'm still using the technics slipmats that came with the turntable so thats probably why everything I do to the record also happens to the platter besides holding it still.

ouch.. yeah, you definitely need some real slipmats.. not that rubber shit that comes with the decks

Posted by T-Soma on Jul-13-2005 09:00:

You make it sound like quartz lock is a problem they have with the tables. I find that even when i drag my finger on the platter it will speed back up but if u slow it down enough it doesnt catch up completly, sure thats gonna sound slurred but you would probly only use that when that record isnt live.

Posted by ��|E on Jul-13-2005 09:19:

Are u using the plain black rubber mat or the "felt like" slipmat that has "Technics" written on it twice?

Cause if ur using the "felt like" mat i cant see a problem, but if ur using the black rubber mat then ........... that's 100% ur problem

Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-13-2005 11:27:

My MK5's came with 2 mats... the thick rubber one for listening only, and a felt "Technics" logo sheet with a plastic underlayment for mixing. I still bought new slipmats...

quote:
Originally posted by ��|E
Are u using the plain black rubber mat or the "felt like" slipmat that has "Technics" written on it twice?

Cause if ur using the "felt like" mat i cant see a problem, but if ur using the black rubber mat then ........... that's 100% ur problem

Posted by colombian raver on Jul-13-2005 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by ��|E
Are u using the plain black rubber mat or the "felt like" slipmat that has "Technics" written on it twice?

Cause if ur using the "felt like" mat i cant see a problem, but if ur using the black rubber mat then ........... that's 100% ur problem

Oh I tossed that black rubber mat as soon as I opened it. Its just the platter and then the felt like mat. Im still going to buy diffrent slipmats though since I've heard others are way better than the technics ones.

Posted by Basstard on Jul-13-2005 15:15:

hmmm. i have my felt technics slipmats on top of the rubber mats. i take it ur not meant to do this?

Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-13-2005 15:29:

Big NO on that one

One or the other...

Read the manual too

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
hmmm. i have my felt technics slipmats on top of the rubber mats. i take it ur not meant to do this?

Posted by ��|E on Jul-13-2005 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
hmmm. i have my felt technics slipmats on top of the rubber mats. i take it ur not meant to do this?

Nope, definately not, one OR the other, if you just used the turntable to play records (u dont touch the vinyl after its starts playing at all) then the black rubber mats are the way to go, but for you cueing and so forth u'll just want the mat that has "Technics" written on it.

Posted by Basstard on Jul-14-2005 11:02:

cheerz

just outta curiosity - wat affect did having them both on have?

Posted by Liam on Jul-14-2005 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
cheerz

just outta curiosity - wat affect did having them both on have?

well the rubber mat creates a lot of friction so it would be much more difficult to queue the record. I'm guessing that you were stopping your platter from spinning every time you queued a record. You want it as slippery as possible so that the platter continues to spin no matter what you're doing with the record.

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jul-15-2005 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Liam
well the rubber mat creates a lot of friction so it would be much more difficult to queue the record. I'm guessing that you were stopping your platter from spinning every time you queued a record. You want it as slippery as possible so that the platter continues to spin no matter what you're doing with the record.

the degree of required slip really depends on how you handle your records and what sort of feel you desire.

i've played with plenty of slipmats that are far TOO slippy, enough that the record would float the mat instead of the mat driving the record.. tink the rekkid and it'd spin a whole revolution, etc.

a nice happy medium is best.

as far as the original topic... if MK2/M3Ds do this, then i've just got used to it.

and considering 98% of the decks you'd play on at a gig would then have this "problem", you might as well just learn to deal with it

Posted by Rhue on Jul-16-2005 03:55:

Personal opinion: just use the 'felt' mats and the transparent sheets. Loose the rubber ASAP! (that didnt sound right).

Posted by Basstard on Jul-16-2005 10:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Rhue
Personal opinion: just use the 'felt' mats and the transparent sheets. Loose the rubber ASAP! (that didnt sound right).

yea it feels better without the rubber

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-16-2005 17:34:

i'm not sure if we are gonna be talking about the same thing ...but maybe ....

i did a mod on my 1200 m3d's which might be considered a quart defeat .....

this is what it does:

get your little circles on the platter to say 3.3 and have them hold steady

then lightly glide your finger accoss the cirlce to pull the platter back .... u will notice they go right back into place

with the mod when u lightly caress the platter back it shifts back...so if u were correcting it would just stay on beat then without having to jerk with the pitch again.....the platter also becaomes very sensitve and corrects with ease

if this sound like what your talking about respond and i will try to find the mod online

best thing that ever happened to my deck....i love it

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-16-2005 17:39:

this is the mod:

http://www.dancetronics.com/othpages/mod1200.html

Posted by Freak on Jul-16-2005 18:21:

I remember reading that when you first posted it trinity.
Scared me back then, and it still does... would be interested to try one thats had the mod tho

Posted by colombian raver on Jul-17-2005 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by djtrinity
i'm not sure if we are gonna be talking about the same thing ...but maybe ....

i did a mod on my 1200 m3d's which might be considered a quart defeat .....

this is what it does:

get your little circles on the platter to say 3.3 and have them hold steady

then lightly glide your finger accoss the cirlce to pull the platter back .... u will notice they go right back into place

with the mod when u lightly caress the platter back it shifts back...so if u were correcting it would just stay on beat then without having to jerk with the pitch again.....the platter also becaomes very sensitve and corrects with ease

if this sound like what your talking about respond and i will try to find the mod online

best thing that ever happened to my deck....i love it

Yeah, thats exactly the thing I'm talking about. I was wondering if it's an easy mod to do and dosn't affect the table's ability to hold the pitch.

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-17-2005 09:37:

quote:
Originally posted by colombian raver
Yeah, thats exactly the thing I'm talking about. I was wondering if it's an easy mod to do and dosn't affect the table's ability to hold the pitch.

http://www.dancetronics.com/othpages/mod1200.html