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Posted by milos on Jul-13-2005 15:07:

Shuttle launch Today!

Just wanted to give you all a heads up:
Mission: International Space Station Flight LF1
Shuttle: Discovery
Launch Pad: 39B
Launch: July 13, 2005 at 3:51 p.m. EDT
Landing: July 25, 2005 at 11:01 a.m. EDT
Duration: 12 days
Orbital Insertion Altitude: 122 nautical miles
Orbit Inclination: 51.60�

http://www.nasa.gov/returntoflight/main/index.html

I don't know to tell you whos gonna broadcast it (i imagine CNN for sure), but we have a live feed here at the station so i'm gonna watch it for sure cause its cool!

Posted by TranceGrooves on Jul-13-2005 15:13:

yea i will be watching too .... plus i r gonna play PPK - Ressurection as the countdown for launch begins lolz that tune and shuttle launches go hand in hand lolz

Posted by zokissima on Jul-13-2005 15:18:

A lot of ppl will be watching this closely. It still remains to be seen where NASA will go with the space shuttle in the future. The technology is far obsolete, and is definitely starting to show its age.

Posted by Orko on Jul-13-2005 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
A lot of ppl will be watching this closely. It still remains to be seen where NASA will go with the space shuttle in the future. The technology is far obsolete, and is definitely starting to show its age.

thats what i just cant understand. They are so concerned about safety, yet they are using a 30 year old shuttle design. Its amazing that with all the advancements we have made in technology, none of it has really been applied to building a new shuttle.

i definatly want to watch, but i am at work. I am going to try and find an internet stream.

Posted by loconet on Jul-13-2005 15:54:

Can watch it live through Nasa TV.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

July 13, Wednesday
5:30 a.m. - Launch Coverage and Commentary (Discovery Fueling Begins) - KSC (Mission Coverage)
3:50 p.m. - Launch of Space Shuttle Discovery on STS-114 - KSC (Mission Coverage)

Posted by Orko on Jul-13-2005 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
Can watch it live through Nasa TV.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

July 13, Wednesday
5:30 a.m. - Launch Coverage and Commentary (Discovery Fueling Begins) - KSC (Mission Coverage)
3:50 p.m. - Launch of Space Shuttle Discovery on STS-114 - KSC (Mission Coverage)

thank you!

Posted by amb_ on Jul-13-2005 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
none of it has really been applied to building a new shuttle.

no new civilian shuttles.

as far as nasa is concerned, this is in the works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_Exploration_Vehicle

Posted by loconet on Jul-13-2005 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
no new civilian shuttles.

as far as nasa is concerned, this is in the works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_Exploration_Vehicle

I saw this a while ago and what jumped to my attention was the Lockheed's concept picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:...heed_Martin.jpg).
Now, Is it just me or is Propultion Stage actually held together by duct tape? Don't get me wrong, I have seen duct tape successfully solve some very complex problems that amazes the most brillant of egineers today but this might be pushing it a bit

Posted by Orko on Jul-13-2005 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
Now, Is it just me or is Propultion Stage actually held together by duct tape? Don't get me wrong, I have seen duct tape successfully solve some very complex problems that amazes the most brillant of egineers today but this might be pushing it a bit

hahaha
go duct tape!

in regards to these designs. We have had designs in the past as well, but nothing has been implemented and thats the problem. Atleast our tax dollars dont pay for this stuff.

Posted by slingshot on Jul-13-2005 17:15:

to infinity and beyond!!

Posted by milos on Jul-13-2005 17:52:

no launch

Posted by Orko on Jul-13-2005 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by milos
no launch

weather?

Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-13-2005 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
weather?

Fuel tank sensor fucked up.

Posted by Orko on Jul-13-2005 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Fuel tank sensor fucked up.

im watching the feed now.

that sucks! atleast they found the problem before they lifted off though.

Posted by zokissima on Jul-13-2005 18:15:

Seems like they were pushing it to get it off the ground today anyways. If they can still have breakdowns and malfunctions on the day of the launch, makes you wonder how safe these birds are to fly...

Posted by Orko on Jul-13-2005 18:27:

they have had so many successful shuttle launches in the past, i just dont understand why they are having problem now.

They are not working with a dynamic environment. Most of conditions stay the same year after year. Tools, technology, materials, and even the people keep evolving and getting better. You would think it should be easier to it off the ground.

Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-13-2005 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
they have had so many successful shuttle launches in the past, i just dont understand why they are having problem now.

They are not working with a dynamic environment. Most of conditions stay the same year after year. Tools, technology, materials, and even the people keep evolving and getting better. You would think it should be easier to it off the ground.

NASA is very underfunded these days, apparently.

Posted by verndogs on Jul-13-2005 18:31:

i have an old college friend who was one of the engineers involved with the discovery project...not a fun few days for him

Posted by loconet on Jul-13-2005 18:53:

So apparently this photo was taken after they cancelled the launch. They seem pretty happy about it lol..

Posted by house_conXion on Jul-13-2005 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
So apparently this photo was taken after they cancelled the launch. They seem pretty happy about it lol..

Yeah that's cuz they get to live another day. lol

Posted by trancechaos on Jul-13-2005 19:07:

the technology keeps evolving all the time, so to say that they use the same technology all the time is a very incorrect statement.
engineers work their fuckin asses off and nasa engineers go through hell night and day especially on a project like this. one of my proffesors worked at nasa for a couple years and he keeps telling us of the constant fight between politics and engineering and thats the reason he stopped working for nasa.

i bet that there were still tons of people saying launch the damn shuttle. thats the classic example of what happened with the challenger. safety comes first.

now back to the ever evolving technology. the only problem with changing components is making the new ones reliable, theres no use having something that is more advanced but wont last the required amount of time.

Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-13-2005 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by house_conXion
Yeah that's cuz they get to live another day. lol

Hahahahah ZZZZZZZING

Posted by zokissima on Jul-13-2005 19:15:

I don't know how many problems manufacturing new parts really solves. Bottom line is they're still working with a 30 year old frame, so no matter how many times you re-engineer the parts, they are still not the original, nor will they work with the original in every anticipated way. One way or the other, the Shuttle costs a ridiculous amount of money to keep in flying shape, and over time, is just not worth the expense.

Posted by TranceGrooves on Jul-13-2005 19:50:

I told the bastards to let me take care of everything but they didnt listen, and now look w0t happens.

NASA ... I TOLD YOU SO

Posted by zoogla on Jul-13-2005 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGrooves
I told the bastards to let me take care of everything but they didnt listen, and now look w0t happens.

NASA ... I TOLD YOU SO

Seriously. If they just blasted PPK - Resurrection on all the loud speakers surrounding Cape Canaveral and popped a few pills, all would have been okay...

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