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Posted by Fir3start3r on Jul-19-2005 04:11:

Shame / Disagreement U.N. : Hands off the Net!

The very thought of this makes my skin crawl...

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Monday, July 18, 2005

Hands Off The Net

United Nations: A notoriously inefficient, corrupt bureaucracy wants to regulate the world's fastest-growing industry. Note to Internet companies: Start worrying.

The U.N., home to the ever-burgeoning oil-for-food scandal, among other fiascoes, has a task force that last week outlined four possible options for the future of the Internet.

Those options will be considered at an "Information Society" summit in November. The idea behind at least three of the four options is to end U.S. control of the Internet � a move to which the U.S., to its credit, has steadfastly objected.

We should continue to do so. If any of these proposals comes to pass, the Internet as we know it will be finished. U.N. control would lead to the loss of billions of dollars in revenue and hundreds of thousands of jobs, plus the death of innovation.


Some countries have long dreamed of ending America's domination of high tech, and of asserting "international" control over it. In the case of the Internet, the main movers are South Africa, China and especially Brazil.

Not coincidentally, all three are major violators of intellectual property rights, stealing billions from U.S. high-tech and drug firms each year. And this isn't the first time.

An earlier attempt at seizing control of the Internet took place in 2003. It failed.

Even earlier, in the 1970s and 1980s, the U.N. promulgated the "new world information order" � an Orwellian attempt to manage the news on behalf of corrupt, nondemocratic governments. It too got shot down.

What's funny is that all of this is so unnecessary.

As it stands now, the Internet is managed by a nonprofit organization � the Internet Corp. for Assigned Names and Numbers, based in California. ICANN, as it's known, handles all the routine business of the Internet.

Nothing is perfect, certainly not ICANN. Some have criticized it as lacking accountability. Others argue that ICANN's role in imposing mandatory arbitration in trademark disputes is a kind of institutional overreach.

These complaints aside, ICANN's stewardship has so far been outstanding. The rapid growth of the Internet � and its emergence as an irreplaceable source of information, commerce and communication � is at least partly a result of ICANN's management.

The U.N.'s Working Group on Internet Governance would end all that by taking over ICANN's role or bringing ICANN itself under U.N. control.

Some of the proposals that have emerged from the U.N.'s wannabe Internet czars are alarming. Like a larger role for "governance arrangements," just another way of saying more control by U.N. bureaucrats and member nations whose governments are inimical to democracy, free speech and free trade.

More arbitrary rules, less free market � this is a recipe for Internet stagnation, not growth.

As we noted earlier, the Internet's astounding expansion, from 2.2 million nodes at the start of 1994 to more than 320 million today (see chart), is largely due to ICANN's light touch in managing it.

"If the Internet was a postal system," said ICANN CEO Paul Twomey, "what we ensure is that the addresses on the letters work. We don't think we're a regulator. We think we're a technical coordinator." That is what the Net needs � a technical coordinator. Not a hobnailed boot on its neck.

Given its record of mismanagement and corruption, the U.N. shouldn't be handed the keys to the Internet. It's too precious a resource. We need look only as far as the oil-for-food scandal � possibly the largest fraud in history � for evidence as to why this is true.

Giving the U.N. control over the Internet would be giving it control over the future � which rightly belongs to entrepreneurs, inventors and dreamers, not faceless bureaucrats who can scarcely conceal their loathing for the free-market success the U.S. represents.

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Posted by Shizane2002 on Jul-19-2005 05:17:

90% of the shit you read on the internet is total crap.

This reminds me of the monthly "draft rumor from congress" that pops up.

The UN is too busy making deals with rogue nations and maintaining its incompetence to worry about controlling the internet.

Fuck the UN and these lame rumors.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 10:52:

We invented the internet so we should be the ones to control it! And who the hell elected America to control the internet?! They're hardly international players right now are they? And balls to copy right! Give it to Brazil or China if it means free music and films!!!


Posted by Yoepus on Jul-19-2005 13:05:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
We invented the internet so we should be the ones to control it! And who the hell elected America to control the internet?! They're hardly international players right now are they? And balls to copy right! Give it to Brazil or China if it means free music and films!!!



The Americans decided. Next time you can go invent your own internet if you like. Or just go back to using telephone and faxes, your choice.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 13:33:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
We invented the internet so we should be the ones to control it! And who the hell elected America to control the internet?!

We? no the americans invented the internet not the british. Here is a link use it so next time you won't sound so ignorant.http://www.isoc.org/internet/histor...f.shtml#Origins


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 14:54:

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Originally posted by Yoepus
The Americans decided. Next time you can go invent your own internet if you like. Or just go back to using telephone and faxes, your choice.

We did invent it!!!


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 14:54:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
We? no the americans invented the internet not the british. Here is a link use it so next time you won't sound so ignorant.http://www.isoc.org/internet/histor...f.shtml#Origins

Might I suggest you search the name Tim Berners-Lee...


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 15:03:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
Might I suggest you search the name Tim Berners-Lee...


yes he did create the world wide web. But he is now a resident of the USA. Might I suggest a name for you bill gates??


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 15:17:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
yes he did create the world wide web. But he is now a resident of the USA. Might I suggest a name for you bill gates??

Oh right so America can take credit for inventing the internet cos the man who invented it, despite being British, and despite inventing it in Switzerland, now lives in America?!


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 15:29:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
Oh right so America can take credit for inventing the internet cos the man who invented it, despite being British, and despite inventing it in Switzerland, now lives in America?!

well i am not really saying we have all the credit we just have the majority of the credit for the internet.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 15:37:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
well i am not really saying we have all the credit we just have the majority of the credit for the internet.

You dont have ANY credit cos YOU DIDN'T INVENT IT!!!!


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 15:38:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
You dont have ANY credit cos YOU DIDN'T INVENT IT!!!!

NEITHER DID YOU!!!


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 15:39:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
NEITHER DID YOU!!!

Er...me personally?! I never said I did I said Tim Berners-Lee did!!!


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 15:45:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
Er...me personally?! I never said I did I said Tim Berners-Lee did!!!

It was Bil gates who made it possible for him!!!


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 15:47:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
It was Bil gates who made it possible for him!!!

Well we fucking invented the computer too so how ever much you wanna wriggle out of it its still British!!!!!!!!


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 15:50:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
Well we fucking invented the computer too so how ever much you wanna wriggle out of it its still British!!!!!!!!

hey i have a question off topic. The brits invented football but why do they suck at it now??


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 15:53:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
hey i have a question off topic. The brits invented football but why do they suck at it now??

Do we?! Not sure what type of football your on about!


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 15:54:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
Do we?! Not sure what type of football your on about!

Soccer! England gets owned by like every south american country and most european countries.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 16:01:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Soccer! England gets owned by like every south american country and most european countries.

Eh?! We got one of the best teams in the world, arguably THE best!

The only teams that "own us" (how sad) are Brazil, nobody else in South America does and there aren't too many I can think of in Europe that do either...


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 16:02:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
hey i have a question off topic. The brits invented football but why do they suck at it now??

Actually when you say "Brits" maybe you mean Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland? Cos yes, they are shit


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 16:08:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
Actually when you say "Brits" maybe you mean Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland? Cos yes, they are shit

No I meant England they are in like the easiest group they wont make in the world cup. oh and you guys suck at golf look at tiger woods he owns you all


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 16:15:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
No I meant England they are in like the easiest group they wont make in the world cup. oh and you guys suck at golf look at tiger woods he owns you all

Well bare with my while I try to decipher what you actually said there but anyway...

Exactly which groups do you consider hard? None of em are apart from the one with Czech republic and Holland in. And Poland and Austria aren't exactly shit and with Wales and Northern Ireland is always gonna be hard as they are the nearest things to a local derby you can get in international football.

And fuck off about golf its a shit sport played by posh wankers, a bit like tennis.

America is shite a team sports thats why you have to change the popular world sports into gay American sports and call them summat shit like the World Series.

Name an international team sport America are good at...

None, your as shit at team sports as you are at INVENTING THINGS

But well done for trying to change the subject cos you were feeling FUCKING STUPID


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 16:23:

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Originally posted by George Smiley


Name an international team sport America are good at...

None, your as shit at team sports as you are at INVENTING THINGS


we invented basket ball: but wait you asked international??? ay ay ay ay
most sports we are better at than most countries except for soccer.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-19-2005 16:34:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
we invented basket ball: but wait you asked international??? ay ay ay ay
most sports we are better at than most countries except for soccer.

Er...basketball is netball like baseball is rounders (both invented by Britain and both invented as girls sports!)

And I specifically asked for international sports so you couldn't just reel off a load of sports that only Americans play!

I'll give you athletics, but I'm struggling to think of ANY other sports


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-19-2005 16:42:

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Originally posted by George Smiley
Er...basketball is netball like baseball is rounders (both invented by Britain and both invented as girls sports!)

And I specifically asked for international sports so you couldn't just reel off a load of sports that only Americans play!

I'll give you athletics, but I'm struggling to think of ANY other sports

eh same here i have no clue what i am talking about to let you know but it doesn't seem to bother you. Now no more posting crap becasue you will just make me post again...anyways yea thats all i got.


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