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[uplifting] vandalay - time and day

Hello,

Been quite stuck with this track for a long time now, cant really advance on it.
This is (almost) the full track, the basic layout of it anyways, but there are very little effects on it, so its pretty much the basics; beat, bass,pads,synth so far.

Need to know what can be improve, tips on what to add, how to fill the spaces and whatever comments you might have about it.

Title: Vandalay - Time and Day
Length: 4.34
Size: 5,23 mb
Bitrate: 160 kpbs

Download here (right click and save)

Thank you and have a good time,

bummer to see that noone has any comments on this...doesnt the link work?

let me put you out of your mysery for a bit .
wow, nice tune, it's really great to go back to basics once in a while, with todays overload of sounds. Only therefore this is original imo. The track sounds pretty complete to me, I don't think it lacks something. Uplifting as a track can be, lots of energy! good work man!
keep it up!

btw, love your site, nice layout with cool stuff on it =)

ps: sorry I can't really comment on things you might change

thanks, appriciate it

glad you liked the song as it is, but I do feel it needs more poking at...and I would need a push in the right direction, but thanks for the comment anyway.

also glad you enjoyed my site, hope you had a good time there.

take care,

That kick is very poor, the whole intro is quite a turn-off to be honest. It's sad, because once you get things going in the second half of the song it sounds really good. Actually better than that.

Nice percussion, synths and melodies. I like it a lot

yeah, the kick sounds hollow right? Im having trouble getting that deep pounding sound on it.

the intro/song isnt done...and maybe its only the intro that needs some extra elements...?

but im glad you like the second half!
take care,

ok, I updated the track, still same link. new deeper kick and more intrigute intro then before and more cream behind the synths

comments,constructive criticsm appriciated.

take care,

hey!

maybe you could wokr on the buildup! the track is a bit short imo!
also i'm not a big fan of this bass sound!
lead sound and melody is really cool!
kick needs definately some work! i think compression is the way to go...
maybe you could add some more percussion-elements, which underline the bass, to bring a better drive into the track...
also a nice little counter mellow would sound great in the mainpart...
hope this helps a bit!

// Lars

thanks for the comment, appriciate it.
yes, the track is short, and not complete, just the basic layout, just trying to find the right elements and then prolong it.

regarding the kick, I dont know what you mean by compression? Im using Reason, is compression something I can control from there and if so, how? or is it in the mastering process, and if so, after the mixdown, how can I control the compression of kick exclusivly?

"also a nice little counter mellow would sound great in the mainpart..."

this sounds interesting, but I dont know what you mean..counter mellow? when you say "mainpart" do you mean when the song is in "full bloom"? if you could please explain further what you mean by counter mellow I would love it.

percussion elements? like a bongo-drum or a rimshot/hit-hat that goes together/the same with the bass?

dont know if compression works in reason! instead you can try to increase the amp of the kick...

yes you're right! with mainpart i mean the track in it's 'full-bloom'!
counter-melody does mean a little melody which underlines the actual mainlead...
trying to show it:

xXxx xXxX xXxx xXxX <- mainlead
yyYY YyYy yyYY YyYy <- counterlead

hopes this demonstrates what i mean...i guess it doesnt!

and yes, such as bongos, congas, toms and so on...

ok..hmm..the kick was poor before, then I changed it to a more fuller sound by EQ:ing the bass and increasing the volume(amp?) but apparantly that didnt work, so maybe I need a new sample.

ok, I think I understand...when you type X as a capital letter is that when a note hits and a small x is when the note is silent?
so when you type two capital YY's below to small xx's, is that the counterlead playing notes when the mainled is silent?

or are the small and capital letters just showing the volume of each note?

i knew it doesnt come out clear! ^^

here's a sample, which shows what i mean:

Demo

you've got the mainlead and a melody which is playing just at some parts over the mainlead! that's the countermellow!

aha!!

now I get it...great sample btw! love that track.

any other thoughts or ideas people?

Listening...

I like the base line, but not too fond of the notes your hitting...Just sounds a little too basic IMO.

I agree with Enfero about the beginning...Kick could stand out more...and maybe layer the lead or use a more enticing sound...

The main meat of the song sounds great. I would just work on the drums.

hey markusk, thanks for the comment, a few questions:

do you like how the bassline goes but not that notes that the bassline is playing, or the notes I play when I introduce the "main lead", or the notes played on the lead when its in its "full cycle"?

when you say "layer the lead", what/how do you mean? Right now the lead is duplicated and 1 is playing full in right channel, the other full in left. and I got reverb on it, and below the "saw lead" I got a "plucking" synth playing the same notes, but in a lower volume...should I perhaps raise the volume on that to "expand" the lead...

..or what should I do?

thanks!

Hey...

Yes, I like the sound and rhythm of the bassline but not the notes that your hitting with the baseline because it sounds too lonely...does that make sense? like after the 4 bars of the baseline by itself, you have a melody going with the baseline, that sounds better. Keep in mind, this is only my opinion.

About layering, I guess it just needs to be louder, it just doesn't sound full, know what I mean?

Hi mate!

So, the percusion is poor, you must add more fx in the background,
Eq is bad, melo is very good, i like your melo, so where are by the way melodys?? The sound of arpegio is not clean, try to sharpen sounds in this sound eq.
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marcusk: ok, I�ll see if I can find a way to make the bassline more "in the track" and more power in the lead.

Sunclyder: Thanks for the response, I�ll try to EQ:ing the leads themself, right now there is just a basic mastering in Sound Forge, but hopefully more careful mastering before mixdown can solve it.

Thanks and take care,

bassline: i hear soms mini clickz try to change attack a bit on synth
or filter out the highest frequencies.

uppersynth(a bit less volume, a bit more reverb)
melody: sory man i dont know where you are going with this it is not realy recognisable (and thatz just wat makes people wanne buy music)

backgroundpads in the end i find nice!

some basic structuring and more mixing/eq'ing will make it sound much better imho.

greetz

bjornc: yeah that was a good idea, bass sounded much better. regarding the melody im actually pretty satisfied with it, so thats staying put

I�ll work on the structuring and will fix EQ (not done on any element yet, just simple mastering in sound forge)

thanks and take care!

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