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Posted by Cloudburst on Jul-24-2005 11:38:

Amen Break

In case some of you haven't seen this before I thought I could post it here. It's about the infamous Amen sample, or the Amen break.

http://www.nkhstudio.com/pages/amen_mp4.html

Posted by Icone on Jul-24-2005 12:02:

Infamous or not, doesn't ring a bell with me (at least the name)

I'll have a look, thanks for the link!

Posted by aquila on Jul-24-2005 12:33:

I already knew about the origins of the Amen break, but this was extremely fascinating, and kinda infuriating regarding the crazyness of copyright laws and how this break somehow escaped the pandemonium of legality.

Thanks for the link.

Posted by Freak on Jul-24-2005 13:28:

It took me years to find out what that was when I first heard it in 1991.. took me some time!
That break and the akai s950 that was used to trigger it back in the day is responsible for drum n bass- THE breakbeat and responsible for so much that followed....

ps- I typed that before i listened to it- and hes just mentioned it in it...lol - total respect for playing original nuttah too!!!!!!!!

Anyone into drum programming should seriously take note as you will learn a lot from that

Posted by Thois on Jul-24-2005 13:53:

not impressed
probably because i am a n00b

Posted by DigiNut on Jul-24-2005 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Thois
not impressed
probably because i am a n00b

Not impressed with *what*?

The original break was played live, you fool. And it didn't impress anyone, that's the whole POINT - almost nobody knows the original song but one tiny drum solo in the middle spawned two whole genres of electronic music and one genre of pop music. Did you actually listen to the documentary or did you just skim through half of it?

Posted by Thois on Jul-24-2005 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Not impressed with *what*?

The original break was played live, you fool. And it didn't impress anyone, that's the whole POINT - almost nobody knows the original song but one tiny drum solo in the middle spawned two whole genres of electronic music and one genre of pop music. Did you actually listen to the documentary or did you just skim through half of it?

I skipped some parts yeah. If you had the patience to watch the whole video, you must have eaten a few tons of coffee beans.

Posted by Akridrot on Jul-24-2005 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Thois
I skipped some parts yeah. If you had the patience to watch the whole video, you must have eaten a few tons of coffee beans.

Even if you don't like it, you gotta respect the Amen Break. Hundreds of tracks were made from that six seconds alone. It's an audio legend, and like DigiNut said, it created 3 fucking genres by itself. If that's not impressive for a six second drum loop, I don't know what is.

Posted by DigiNut on Jul-24-2005 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Thois
I skipped some parts yeah. If you had the patience to watch the whole video, you must have eaten a few tons of coffee beans.

Well, with that much patience (not to mention high standards!) you must surely have some brilliant tracks of your own to share with us?

Posted by Icone on Jul-24-2005 20:51:

a VERY meaningful recording if you ask me.

Especially the part at the end about copyrights and overprotection of music restricting creativity of artists and building new sounds and fanbases. Definately something to think about!

Posted by DC76 on Jul-24-2005 21:37:

I like the general sound of the Amen Break when used in the proper context. I've even sampled it at 75 BPM then sampled it again, quieter, at 150 BPM overtop... it sounds pretty good

It is amazing that it escaped the tangled web woven by copyright law.

Posted by Thois on Jul-25-2005 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Well, with that much patience (not to mention high standards!) you must surely have some brilliant tracks of your own to share with us?

1) ??? i said i didnt watch the whole video because i dont have much patience (probably bad enlish by me i suppose)...
2) my farts sound better than my productions
3) i am too ashamed to share them (my productions)
4) perhaps i should import some amen breaks in my productions to spice them up

Posted by wink on Jul-25-2005 00:35:

thankyou for this link. the amen is infamous indeed. everyone in music production shold be farmiliar with it's essential history.

Posted by Tomas_P on Jul-25-2005 05:29:

The Amen is a great beat i use it all the time in my drum 'n bass tracks although very well hidden and btw great find Icone

Posted by Freak on Jul-25-2005 09:41:

Myself and a friend were killing some time in the studio several years back, and had a total mindfuck by wondering how much they should have made in royalties if they were paid the publishing and mechanicals they were due for every use of it...

Posted by JustinMead on Jul-25-2005 15:17:

Mmmm cant watch it, it says i dont have the right plug in but i installed it and it dont work

Posted by Cloudburst on Jul-25-2005 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by JustinMead
Mmmm cant watch it, it says i dont have the right plug in but i installed it and it dont work

You need quicktime to view it.

Posted by PutBoy on Jul-25-2005 18:36:

thanxz0rs

Just realised, that drumbeat is really everywere :S

Threw on a DJ Slipmat set, and every track in there uses that sample.

Incredible.

And I hate copyright, copyright is wrong...

Posted by Tech0rz on Jul-25-2005 21:36:

The link to the video is down, I found a page though, > here <

I'd like to see the video.