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Pentium 4 vs. M ?
Im buying a notebook PC (whatever happened to "laptop?") and I remember hearing some fuss about Pentium 4's and how they had some problems. Is that true?
Better question, which is better, 4 or M?
[Oh, and I think Im going to buy a Toshiba, so go ahead and comment on that too. 
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A P4 might be faster, but the Ms aren't slow at all, and I think they come with built in wi-fi capability?
Edit: In my experiences (with about three or four of them) Toshiba laptops have been great.
depends really..M is slower than P4...but it has a longer battery life, and easier to carry around..(lighter etc...)
you can compare the specs between a M and a P4...the difference is just the battery life and weight...which a M has advantage over the P4..if you need a notebook as a desktop replacement, get the p4.
The main difference is the M isn't as power hungry as the 4 so you're battery lasts longer and the laptop doesn't get as hot. This is a distinct advantage unless its winter and your lap is cold. 
Not many ppl have a need for that wi-fi crap, its more of a marketing ploy.
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I have a Toshiba Satellite P25 that I bought last year. It has a Pentium 4, and although it was one of the older Pentium 4 (the Northwood) it is still pretty speedy, especially burning CDs and the loading times on it is speedy as well. It probably would do pretty well with production, but I bought it mostly for audio recording and editing, but I haven't used it as such considering I've neglected to get an external soundcard and some good studio monitors....
M has been stripped of it's power (not aimed for high end use, gaming, ect) which is why it's lighter and takes less power. Go with the P4 if you want power and plan to game. If not, go for the M, that's what they were designed for.
Check out hardocp / anandtech too.
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| Originally posted by igottaknow btw, you now owe me a sexual favor in return for my intellectual whore help. |
maybe around 7.5 - 8 lbs
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| Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie Damnit! Well, as of right now Ive got an A70 on my plate with a P4 2.8ghz, 512RAM, 80GBHD as sides. And yes, the only thing I can see being a problem is the weight and battery thing. I needed to upgrade to a 12cell because I wanted a P4. It wont give let me know how much the damn thing will weigh though. |
Dang! Thats a honkin' computer!
Well, I really want an M50 but the 200 extra bucks is making me queasy.
um.. does anyone here read hardware benchmarks? i guess not.
pentium M's can SMOKE a p4. just go to www.tomshardware.com or www.anandtech.com
let me ask, if pentium M's are so much slower, than why did asus just release a socket adapter so you can use pentium M's on a standard sock 478 mobo? they really are faster.. trust me
i can play hl2 with all the details up at 1280x800 (widescreen)... with a pentium M 1,5 Ghz and a simple Radeon 9700 (64Mb)... AND the battery time is between 3 and 5 hours...
screw P4, get a Centrino
Got a Toshiba M30-001 in January. So far it's been performing great. The only upgrade I did was add another 512mb of RAM for a total of 1GB. I use it for everything, including gaming. So far the only game that it ran slow for me was Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, others (ie. SWAT 4, Rise of Nations, Need for Speed:Underground etc.) ran smoothly, even on higher video settings.
Also, the screen on the laptop is amazing.
my dell inspiron 6000 gets around 2-4 hours depending on load and screen brightness when it's not plugged in, and yeah, games work pretty well, not cranked up to high detail all the way mind you, but I think it can handle it's own. Also, the M series has a larger cache than the desktop p4, so performance is really not an issue.
pentium M 1.5 ghz
80 gb 5400 rpm drive
128 mb radeon x300 pci-e 16x
512 mb DDR400
9-cell battery
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| Originally posted by MaxTO Got a Toshiba M30-001 in January. So far it's been performing great. The only upgrade I did was add another 512mb of RAM for a total of 1GB. I use it for everything, including gaming. So far the only game that it ran slow for me was Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, others (ie. SWAT 4, Rise of Nations, Need for Speed:Underground etc.) ran smoothly, even on higher video settings. Also, the screen on the laptop is amazing. |
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doesn't it have to do with the circuitry? all the p4's power would be wasted whereas the pentium-M is specifically made to harness the processor's abilities as best as possible.
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| Originally posted by djkoolaide um.. does anyone here read hardware benchmarks? i guess not. pentium M's can SMOKE a p4. just go to www.tomshardware.com or www.anandtech.com let me ask, if pentium M's are so much slower, than why did asus just release a socket adapter so you can use pentium M's on a standard sock 478 mobo? they really are faster.. trust me |
Someone probably has already said this but if you aren't planning on taking your computer around many places, then a Desktop or Desktop Replacement (which many 17 inch laptops are) is a a better bet, esp if you are into some more advanced software or games or video/audio editing. If you are planning to take it around with you a lot and do more basic things like checking email, surfing the net, listening to music, writing papers, then the Centrino is better idea. It is to be noted, however, that Centrino's are more powerful than they were a year ago, and there are now Centrino's at 2.1 ghz with 533 Front side bus (which is the speed that the processor communicates with the memory in the computer) and still have 2MB of Level 2 cache, which is pretty good, considering the one I own has only 512k. Probably in a year or less...you'll see Centrino's with 800 Mhz FSB and maybe even 2.5 or 3 MB of Level 2 cache, ya never know. So Centrino's are becoming more versatile, so that they will be able to do the same things that Pentium 4's can nowadays, and even exceed them as well.
Get the AMD64 runs much cooler.. but if you must to Intel go4 the M
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| Originally posted by Transporter Get the AMD64 runs much cooler.. but if you must to Intel go4 the M |
M owns the 4 in battery, portablility performance, and heat output. Would be nicer if the M was avaible desktop with real chipset and features. Gr8 for gaming and everyday usuage + a quiet pc.
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