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Posted by ogvh5150 on Jul-27-2005 15:36:

Can the United States win the war in Iraq?

Can the United States win the war in Iraq?

Yes, I predict a victory
No, the United States can't win the war in Iraq
Maybe the United States could win the war, but I don't think it will


Right now any victory would be good whether it be for:


  1. Finding WMD's which is the reason for the invasion in the first place
  2. To staying in Iraq to install a new government or
  3. To quell any insurgency or
  4. Stop a civil war from festering.


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Posted by Lira on Jul-27-2005 15:54:

I know I'm a bit ignorant concerning this topic but... what would exactly the "victory" be? Installing a democratic government?


Posted by St_Andrew on Jul-27-2005 15:56:

somehow i have a feeling that US will declare victory, pull out there forces and think that everything is fine, but the insurgence will too declare victory when the US is leaving and a year or two after us has left a new aweful dictator will take the power...


Posted by ogvh5150 on Jul-27-2005 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I know I'm a bit ignorant concerning this topic but... what would exactly the "victory" be? Installing a democratic government?


Comment redacted and updated poll text.

see text above


Posted by Kapedano on Jul-27-2005 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I know I'm a bit ignorant concerning this topic but... what would exactly the "victory" be? Installing a democratic government?


Yeah, Iraq is also a war zone for the war on terrorism.

My answer is Yes, but it will take time.


Posted by Chris Larkin on Jul-27-2005 16:02:

It really depends what you mean by 'win the war'. Dubya has already declared it won, but we all know that's a load of bollocks, right?

I'm not sure that the current war, against 'the insurgency' can be won with military muscle alone. All coalition troops will need to go, and then a fair few elections will have to happen before most people are satisfied that the USA isn't puppeteering the Iraqi government. Then everyone might co-operate.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Oct-27-2005 11:04:

Vote. But you only can vote once so make it a wise choice.


Posted by Lepanto on Oct-27-2005 11:45:

One of the goals was to take down the regime. Victory has been achieved. Reconstruction is still a long ways ahead.


Posted by sensorium on Oct-28-2005 06:28:

If you still have soldiers dying, victory has not been achieved.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-17-2005 22:48:

bump


Posted by Lepanto on Nov-17-2005 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
If you still have soldiers dying, victory has not been achieved.

Then i suppose WWII didn't end in 1945


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-18-2005 15:04:

Most of the soldiers one meets talk like the enemy forces have been weakening over time. Naturally they are not yet completely defeated and possibly never will be, because they are raised from birth to fight the west and have a religous commitment to that fight. It will take more than one war to stop all terrorism, Iraq just looks like the beginning of it all. Maybe they are trying to make Iraq stable because they see it as the strategic point they need in order to protect against the countries that appear to be an even bigger threat.

Just talk to a couple soldiers they are quite easy to find. Alot of them have really interesting stories and from what they say it seems like they are doing alot of good for the people in Iraq. I don't like Bush very much and lean more to the left side, but I also realize that it isn't Bush and Cheney who are out there fighting, the actual troops have a completely different character and in the end the war goes the way they take it rather than what the gov't says. I am convinced that the soldiers are doing good and are making progress, I distrust the current government but I think the kids out there fighting are doing a good job helping to solve the problems in Iraq and protecting us at the same time.


Posted by Lepanto on Nov-18-2005 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
Most of the soldiers one meets talk like the enemy forces have been weakening over time. Naturally they are not yet completely defeated and possibly never will be, because they are raised from birth to fight the west and have a religous commitment to that fight. It will take more than one war to stop all terrorism, Iraq just looks like the beginning of it all. Maybe they are trying to make Iraq stable because they see it as the strategic point they need in order to protect against the countries that appear to be an even bigger threat.

Just talk to a couple soldiers they are quite easy to find. Alot of them have really interesting stories and from what they say it seems like they are doing alot of good for the people in Iraq. I don't like Bush very much and lean more to the left side, but I also realize that it isn't Bush and Cheney who are out there fighting, the actual troops have a completely different character and in the end the war goes the way they take it rather than what the gov't says. I am convinced that the soldiers are doing good and are making progress, I distrust the current government but I think the kids out there fighting are doing a good job helping to solve the problems in Iraq and protecting us at the same time.


I know quiet a few Marines and Army Soldiers and I have to admitt you're very right.


Posted by Aquarian on Nov-18-2005 15:57:

I'm sure if you could ask the ones who were killed, they'd tell you a different story.


Posted by Lepanto on Nov-18-2005 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
I'm sure if you could ask the ones who were killed, they'd tell you a different story.


how does that make sense ?


Posted by Yoepus on Nov-18-2005 16:07:

this poll is worthless. you really have a bad nact for phrasing questions with simple answers don't you?


Posted by igottaknow on Nov-18-2005 20:20:

laughing at the 5 who voted victory are the same 5 who voted bush didn't mislead us. hahaha big surprise.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-19-2005 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
this poll is worthless.


You're one of the five aren't you?

Those numbers don't lie. People get to vote once and only once. I can't change it unless a mod does. So if you don't vote it don't count.

No matter which way it falls, it will lean to one side before it falls doesn't it?


Posted by ogvh5150 on Dec-19-2005 16:19:

vote



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