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Posted by Armin on Jul-30-2005 21:20:

Question Art of trance - Madagascar and his remix...

I can't understand...the melody of his seven remix (Cygnus X, Push ecc...) are completely different from the original. Why? I can't find one element in common...I'm stupid?


Posted by WojiePoj on Jul-30-2005 21:25:

Re: Art of trance - Madagascar and his remix...

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Originally posted by Armin
I can't understand...the melody of his seven remix (Cygnus X, Push ecc...) are completely different from the original. Why? I can't find one element in common...I'm stupid?
hahaha then he asks "I'm stupid" your hilarious i used to have that track in my files but then i got rid of it cuz it was too old and started to annoy me ....but i liked the Cygnus X remix for a while


Posted by Armin on Jul-30-2005 21:30:

Re: Re: Art of trance - Madagascar and his remix...

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Originally posted by WojiePoj
hahaha then he asks "I'm stupid" your hilarious i used to have that track in my files but then i got rid of it cuz it was too old and started to annoy me ....but i liked the Cygnus X remix for a while


I'm sorry, but i can't understand your answer...


Posted by WojiePoj on Jul-30-2005 21:33:

Re: Re: Re: Art of trance - Madagascar and his remix...

quote:
Originally posted by Armin
I'm sorry, but i can't understand your english...
I like cats.
No I'm kidding ....I meant I know what your saying...


Posted by Snooper on Jul-30-2005 21:34:

Cygnus X originally remixed this tune back in 1998, and all the remixes made after that are based on the Cygnus X remix and not on the original. Aloep would know more about this I think....


Posted by Armin on Jul-30-2005 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
Cygnus X originally remixed this tune back in 1998, and all the remixes made after that are based on the Cygnus X remix and not on the original. Aloep would know more about this I think....


Exactly that i think. Therefore, for example, Push remix is in truth a "remix of a remix"?


Posted by GrimReaper on Jul-30-2005 22:57:

I dunno why the Cygnus X duo made the remix to be so different from the original in the first place.. it's by far the best of the remixes anyway. I can't find much resemblance either but who cares. If a remix is good it can be as much different as it "wants". Ferry's mix is remixwise a rather poor effort, just some minor changes to a few things to give it the Ferry sound and nothing else, nothing new.

It's pretty much the same situation with Ayla - Ayla; all the remixes are based on Taucher remix and not the original which is very different (and forgotten thanks to the massive load of remixes of a remix) from Taucher's view.. ..except for Mo & Skinny remix which is the only remix based on Original Mix. Even Tandu/Ayla himself remixed the track basing it on Taucher's remix instead of the original.


Posted by twisted on Jul-30-2005 23:07:

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Originally posted by GrimReaper
It's pretty much the same situation with Ayla - Ayla; all the remixes are based on Taucher remix and not the original which is very different (and forgotten thanks to the massive load of remixes of a remix) from Taucher's view.. ..except for Mo & Skinny remix which is the only remix based on Original Mix. Even Tandu/Ayla himself remixed the track basing it on Taucher's remix instead of the original.



wasnt Ayla based on Cosmic Babies track anyway?


Posted by GrimReaper on Jul-30-2005 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
wasnt Ayla based on Cosmic Babies track anyway?

No, you're mixing it up with Liebe which was a remake of a Cosmic Baby track with the same name. I'm not sure if Ayla bases directly to any track but it has huge similarities in sounds and melodies with some 4 Voice (aka Pete Namlook, who also did 4 Voice - Eternal Spirit on which Kay Cee - Escape is a remake of) productions from the early 90s.


Posted by twisted on Jul-30-2005 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by GrimReaper
No, you're mixing it up with Liebe which was a remake of a Cosmic Baby track with the same name. I'm not sure if Ayla bases directly to any track but it has huge similarities in sounds and melodies than some 4 Voice (aka Pete Namlook, who also did 4 Voice - Eternal Spirit on which Kay Cee - Escape is a remake of) tracks from the early 90s.


i havn't heard anything from Namlook's 4 Voice alias. does it have a steady beat? im really only familier with his "drones"...


Posted by GrimReaper on Jul-30-2005 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
i havn't heard anything from Namlook's 4 Voice alias. does it have a steady beat? im really only familier with his "drones"...

Under his 4 Voice alias he has done some laid back stuff, moody trance and also a bit harder edged trance which Eternal Spirit is like, old skool style of course. Think of Brainchild - Symmetry (C-Mix)/Symmetry C and add a little unpolished roughness to it.


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-30-2005 23:30:

While we're on the subject of Cosmic Baby and remixes of remixes, I really hope the next volley of Cafe del Mar cuts (should they happen) work from the Cosmic Baby Impression rather than the Three n' One. Still so much potential to make the classic even more lasting and celebrated.


Posted by GrimReaper on Jul-30-2005 23:35:

I agree on the potential on remixing of Cosmic Baby's Impression while it is one of the more forgotten mixes of the classic but i hope people will "grow up" and start to remix something else instead and not always the same handful of tracks every year.. Cafe Del Mar, Papua New Guinea, Greece 2000, The Orange Theme,...


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-30-2005 23:38:

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Originally posted by GrimReaper
I agree on the potential on remixing of Cosmic Baby's Impression while it is one of the more forgotten mixes of the classic but i hope people will "grow up" and start to remix something else instead and not always the same handful of tracks every year.. Cafe Del Mar, Papua New Guinea, Greece 2000, The Orange Theme,...

By and large I agree. Other past work should be explored and reinterpreted in serious ways.

But Cafe del Mar has a special place, I think, that follows the genre as it evolves.


Posted by PlasticSoul on Jul-31-2005 23:52:

This thread remember me the history that tell kay cee made a remix of the PVD 93 mix of love stimulation....
so pvd made other remix in 98 to put kay cee mix of love stimulation down cus kay cee mix is a rip of pvd one...


Posted by WojiePoj on Aug-01-2005 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
This thread remember me the history that tell kay cee made a remix of the PVD 93 mix of love stimulation....
so pvd made other remix in 98 to put kay cee mix of love stimulation down cus kay cee mix is a rip of pvd one...
AHAHHAHA that was funny da english .....ahhaha thats awesome!!! lol so funny


Posted by GrimReaper on Aug-01-2005 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
This thread remember me the history that tell kay cee made a remix of the PVD 93 mix of love stimulation....
so pvd made other remix in 98 to put kay cee mix of love stimulation down cus kay cee mix is a rip of pvd one...

Yeah, PvD got pissed at Kay Cee (aka Oliver Huntemann who also was one of the composers of Humate's original) for not making much changes to his '93 Love Mix and claiming it as sort of his own work, own vision of the track while it was just a subtly changed PvD's Love Mix and he didn't even credit PvD but only Humate (Gerret Frerichs) and Gerret's partner in crime in studio at the time, Hans-Georg Schmidt. Because of this PvD reworked his '93 Love Mix into '98 Love Club Mix with some tweaks and updates here and there and along the way also Oliver Lieb and Blank & Jones ended up to remix the track.

Dunno why what how.. but Humate remixed Kay Cee's remake and boy what a tune the 10min journey of Humate 1998 Remix is! I love it, it's my 2nd fav version after PvD's '93 Love Mix.


Posted by twisted on Aug-01-2005 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by WojiePoj
AHAHHAHA that was funny da english .....ahhaha thats awesome!!! lol so funny


what was funny? were you laughing at his english? because i can't even under stand what you are saying.


Posted by WojiePoj on Aug-01-2005 00:19:

Thumbs up AHAHAHAHAHAHAH twisted is too much lol

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
what was funny? were you laughing at his english? because i can't even under stand what you are saying.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH how did i know that twisted would reply to me hahahah anyone who gets dis'd by this clown dont even worry about it hahaha i think im gunna open up MS WORD and keep track of every little fight he tries to pick with me lol always on my ass like a knob goblin lol fuckin twisted too funny,too funny, serious reply more i wanna show my pals that there are people that queer like you ....lol honest...


Posted by twisted on Aug-01-2005 00:36:

Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAH twisted is too much lol

quote:
Originally posted by WojiePoj
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH how did i know that twisted would reply to me hahahah anyone who gets dis'd by this clown dont even worry about it hahaha i think im gunna open up MS WORD and keep track of every little fight he tries to pick with me lol always on my ass like a knob goblin lol fuckin twisted too funny,too funny, serious reply more i wanna show my pals that there are people that queer like you ....lol honest...



you really are a fucking dolt


Posted by WojiePoj on Aug-01-2005 00:39:

Re: Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAH twisted is too much lol

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
you really are a fucking dolt
AHHAHAHAH OWWWWWW OHHHH MAN HAHAHA STOP..... my cheeks....yes yes twisted i was born a "dolt"? lol try again...one more...


Posted by Cobalt on Aug-01-2005 00:47:

More evidence that Soviet-style labor camps can yet serve a use to society.


Posted by WojiePoj on Aug-01-2005 00:52:

Jester

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
More evidence that Soviet-style labor camps can yet serve a use to society.
wow great comment coming from a guy that carries the united nations flag lol and i forced myself to respond to a fuckin american idiot like yourself so be happy for me hahaha.....PS proud Bush supporter? are you all the same?


Posted by twisted on Aug-01-2005 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by WojiePoj
wow great comment coming from a guy that carries the united nations flag lol and i forced myself to respond to a fuckin american idiot like yourself so be happy for me hahaha.....PS proud Bush supporter? are you all the same?


how the fuck does what he said have anything to do with race? he might even have aimed that at me! really, set your self straight man. you have been much more argumentitive than i have on here. very rude as well. pull your head out off your ass, you goon.


Posted by WojiePoj on Aug-01-2005 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
how the fuck does what he said have anything to do with race? he might even have aimed that at me! really, set your self straight man. you have been much more argumentitive than i have on here. very rude as well. pull your head out off your ass, you goon.
mmmmmmm.....no i think i liked your first one better...lol ......but still..........copy ......& paste....


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