Does the Whitelabel usualy do this?

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Posted by colombian raver on Jul-31-2005 05:04:

Does the Whitelabel usualy do this?

Right now I have one belt driven turntable with the shitty needle it came with and one Technics with a Whitelabel. For some reason the whitelabel cannot take the really high medium frequencies like the shitty one can! One good example is LSG - Netherworld when the break starts and the really high melody is playing alone with no other frequencies. The shitty needle can go up full blast and there's no distortion while the Whitelabel does start to distort not even at high volume. WTF? This can't be right. Please help me this is really killing me

Posted by mndeg on Jul-31-2005 05:15:

mabye the whitelabel is extremely worn?

Posted by colombian raver on Jul-31-2005 05:38:

It's only about 2 months old.

Posted by Basstard on Jul-31-2005 22:39:

have u the weight and height set correctly?

Posted by Cheetah86 on Jul-31-2005 23:42:

Some Whitelabels are bad out of the box. When I bought my pair I had to swap one for a new one after three weeks of playing with no improvement.

Posted by dj chex on Aug-01-2005 00:32:

another thing i've experienced about whitelables; it's cantilever is extremely easy to bend and damage. Check to make sure there are no dents on the stylus cantilever, if so you'll need to buy a new stylus.

Posted by colombian raver on Aug-01-2005 03:21:

So before I buy my second technics and whitelabel, should i consider a diffrent needle? I was really looking at the Ortofon Concorde's, they look like they will last a while.

Posted by dj chex on Aug-01-2005 04:39:

well, whitelabels are still good carts. But as of lately, i've ditched my whitelabels for M44Gs and have no complaints. I still use the whitelabels for listening and recording, but for everything else i use the M44Gs.

Posted by sr126 on Aug-01-2005 06:14:

i just bought some whitelabels yesterday. so far so good. i had some problems w/the sound at the store, but that was because who ever used the turntable before me had the antiskate set to +6. i turned it back to zero, and i didn't have any more problems w/popping/distortion.

at home i have the whitelabels set to 52mm overhang. -default setting. the turntables are set to zero antiskate, 2 grams of tracking, and the tone arm hight is set to 3. so far so good.

i would encourage you to check out the orts, to see maybe their sound might suit you better. i did a side by side comparo w/my 500al, whitelabel, and a gray/silver concord needle. i went w/the whitelabel. the orts was not a bad cart. still better than my 500al. but it gave a the music a colored, cold, and harsh digital sound. a different character that was not present w/the 500al or the whitelabel. the bass sounded boomy, but not quite as detailed as the whitelabel. the highs on the orts where killing me sharp stick in the ear style. -yet a lot of people seem to like it when hi-hats stab their ear drums on the up beat. plus the thought of the orts shredding my vinyl made for an automatic disqualification.

who knows, you make like the orts better than the whitelabels. don't stick w/something you're not happy with. especially since you're the one spending the money.

Posted by Luke Cartwright on Aug-01-2005 18:24:

Re: Does the Whitelabel usualy do this?

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Originally posted by colombian raver
Right now I have one belt driven turntable with the shitty needle it came with and one Technics with a Whitelabel. For some reason the whitelabel cannot take the really high medium frequencies like the shitty one can! One good example is LSG - Netherworld when the break starts and the really high melody is playing alone with no other frequencies. The shitty needle can go up full blast and there's no distortion while the Whitelabel does start to distort not even at high volume. WTF? This can't be right. Please help me this is really killing me

One thing it could be is your speakers cannot handle the frequencies that the whitelables are pumping out as opposed to the lesser sound which your shitty stylus are.

Posted by Cheetah86 on Aug-01-2005 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
well, whitelabels are still good carts. But as of lately, i've ditched my whitelabels for M44Gs and have no complaints. I still use the whitelabels for listening and recording, but for everything else i use the M44Gs.

Right now I'm doing the exact same thing, it's so if I feel like scratching I can without worrying about damaging my stylii. (Not that I've scratched in a while, but the opportunity is there.)

Posted by colombian raver on Aug-02-2005 00:46:

Re: Re: Does the Whitelabel usualy do this?

quote:
Originally posted by Luke Cartwright
One thing it could be is your speakers cannot handle the frequencies that the whitelables are pumping out as opposed to the lesser sound which your shitty stylus are.

Nah, I hear the same sound in my headphones. I have mine set at the default overhang, 0 tonearm height, 0 anti skate, and 2 grams of tracking force.

Now that I think of it, it could be my mixer not being able to handle the whitelabel. It is a digital mixer after all so that has to be it.