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Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-01-2005 18:55:

Studio Monitors good for recording sets?

I'm wondering if getting a faily inexpensive pair of studio monitors, such as the BX5-A (the new version of the BX5s) from M-Audio are good enough for recording sets. I've wanted them for a while, but I just bought some CDJ 1000 MK2s, so I spent a lot of dough on those. Anyways I'm wondering if the BX5-As are used for recording or just for production/monitoring purposes. I would need an external soundcard/recording interface as well. If anyone has the BX5 or BX5-As (or even the BX8s/BX8-As) your input would be appreciated, thanks.


Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-01-2005 19:20:

i dont have them, but i dont need them for answering your question...

the monitor/speaker you choose has no real impact on recording sets. the sound from your micer will be sent directly to your recording source. your speakers will only impact what you hear, but not what is being recorded.

powered studio monitors are normally flat in terms of frequency response. the advantage to a flat monior is that normally what you hear from them, is what is being recorded as well. so if you adjust the mixer (lows/mids/highs) through the mix, you will hear it the way it is being recorded. this assumes a totally flat response.

non-monitors, or home speakers may accentuate something in music. paradigm speakers are known to be warm, so the sound being resproduced through the speakers is warmer then what is being recorded.


Posted by dj chex on Aug-01-2005 20:06:

Studio monitors for recording sets? it's kinda debatable. Friends and I personally use Event TR8s and i find it overall good for recording. In the past i've used 3 piece satelite/sub systems for recording and i often find muddy bass (from the excessive bass response) in my recordings. With monitors, you're gonna get a very correct sound, so if you mix into a track that has lets say lack of vocal detail, you can easily correct it with your eq. Otherwise, you probably won't hear it or correct it properly on regular speakers. Monitors are also great for final editing of your set. As i'm posting; I'm actually editing a 45min dnb set i've recorded on saturday at a house party. (it sounds like crap btw, lots of ground loops, dusty screwed needles, mojito drinks, and electrical noise from their tv)

The one thing i hate about spinning on monitors, they usually have a major lack of bass extension in order for them to be acurate. But seriously, before spending any money on monitors, spend days ifnot weeks and audition as many pairs as possiable. Be sure to bring cds that are very dynamic and with different timbres and you know inside and out. Also be very careful of your hearing, it's extremely easy to fatigue your ears. So only do 10min or so listening sessions and give yourself a few minutes break before listening to the next pair.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-01-2005 20:55:

Also look at the KRK Rokkit's, they sounded much better than the M-Audio's to my ears.


Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-01-2005 20:57:

Thanks, I am looking for speakers in the 199 to 299 price range. I have also considered the Rockit 5's by KRK. I don't need big ones, due to lack of space, and I am kind of in a budget crunch after spending $2,077 (yes i got a pretty good deal on the 1000s at GC). I would like to record my sets eventually. In the past with my analog turntables, I just used the tiny speakers on my laptop, but haha those were pretty pathetic sounding, but i was able to mix a set with mostly using my headphones....anyways is there any other monitors you would recommend other than the ones i've listed for the listed price range?


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-01-2005 21:12:

I actually use the Rokkit 5's myself, and also have the CDJ-1000's. I think they work great! The only suggestion I would make is get them up near your ear level, it makes a HUGE difference.


Posted by dj chex on Aug-01-2005 21:24:

I personally didn't like the rockits that much. To me they were missing too much mid range and some detail.

Also check out the TR5, and behringer truth monitors. Daniel at dj mart actually sold me a pair of behringer truth b2031as for around $320 or so after shipping. But i had to cancel them b/c of other expenses were killing me. The Alesis m1MK2's were also pretty good and in your range, but to me the bass was a little too muddy. You may also wanna check out Alesis Prolinear 720, i'm kinda curious on how they sound.


Posted by Fresh on Aug-01-2005 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
The Alesis m1MK2's were also pretty good and in your range, but to me the bass was a little too muddy.


I've heard those are a little bass heavy, but I think that would be a good thing because I find flat monitors usually are lacking in the low end.. even Mackie Hr824's which I've used in a studio. How are those Alesis sounding anyway? I'm thinking about buying a pair but after seeing them briefly in the flesh I think they are quite small and might not be able to pump out the amount of volume I'm after. Wouldnt really want to buy an additional amp after buying some active monitors like those.

Does anyone else use Alesis M1 mk2s?


Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-02-2005 03:20:

Mackie HR-624 (http://www.mackie.com/products/hr624/)or HR-824 (http://www.mackie.com/products/hr824/)if you want to go high-end.

Made by Mackie - Tapco S5 (http://www.tapcogear.com/products/s5/index.html) and Tapco S8 (http://www.tapcogear.com/products/s8/index.html) will be more than sufficient and more cost effective than the Mackie.

M-Audio BX8 (http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...eBX8a-main.html) or BX5 (http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...eBX5a-main.html) would probably be your best non-Mackie purchase option.

Producers (not composers) and recording engineers might mention or suggest the standard Yamaha NS10 - however these are not appropriate for DJing.


Posted by dj chex on Aug-02-2005 06:13:

Like i've said, just listen and find out which monitor is the best for you.


Posted by dj darroch on Aug-02-2005 09:29:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Mackie HR-624 (http://www.mackie.com/products/hr624/


+1 on that


Posted by Doctor-No on Aug-02-2005 12:25:

I use Genelec's products (1030 and others) for monitoring.
Only bad thing whit these are the price tag.


Posted by tamtui on Aug-02-2005 14:21:

try the behringers

$250

for pair and their powered. I think they are better than the m-audios

Also they last....I've had mine for 3 years and still sound great


Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-02-2005 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
I personally didn't like the rockits that much. To me they were missing too much mid range and some detail.

Also check out the TR5, and behringer truth monitors. Daniel at dj mart actually sold me a pair of behringer truth b2031as for around $320 or so after shipping. But i had to cancel them b/c of other expenses were killing me. The Alesis m1MK2's were also pretty good and in your range, but to me the bass was a little too muddy. You may also wanna check out Alesis Prolinear 720, i'm kinda curious on how they sound.


Actually I was looking through a MusiciansFriend.com catalogue and found the Event TR5s for 299.99 with stands to go with it. If they are still 299.99 when I can afford them (probably in a month) then i'll look into those, I first have to go to GC to see how they sound, but they seem pretty decent for 299.99, maybe better than the BX5s, which are now 199.99 (the original ones). Thanks for the input guys, i'll have to spend the next month or so hearing different monitors and determine which ones, but i'm looking at the TR5s now, and the Rockit 5s, as well as some others that might be good, like the Behringers.


Posted by DeleriuM2K on Aug-02-2005 20:05:

dont bother buying studio monitors if youre only going to be recording sets on them and not producing. when you buy studio monitors your dollar is going towards its flat frequency response. flat frequency response isnt really necessary for recording DJ sets

for recording my sets I'm hooked up to my computer system (200 watts + sub) in combination with a stereo system (160 watts)... not my ideal setup but that's what I use. I have KRK Rokit 8's which I use for my productions, and I wouldnt dare use them with my DJing, I'm afraid I'll just pump them too loud for too long and ruin them. Studio monitors werent designed for DJ use at all

If youre looking to spend good money you should be looking for power, not frequency response - just like in the clubs. you'll never find a pair of near field studio monitors in a DJ booth at a club, not loud enough.

check out the Mackie SRM350


Posted by tamtui on Aug-02-2005 21:07:

Smiley DJ mackie SRM350

I have to agree that it's better to get the mackies simply because you can have a party and/or rent them out and make money with them.

I don't know anyone that rents out their studio monitors.

However, the mackies do have a slight hiss when you turn them on even though there is no sound going into them. You'll hear that in your bedroom but not at a party.

But for a small studio or bedroom. Studio monitors are ideal for DJing. Just don't turn them up all the way and pretend you are at the club. After all you can ruin any speaker if you pump it too loud even the mackies. Trust me I know. Even the club speakers blow from time to time. Tool loud and your speakers aren't going to last I don't care if their Avalons.


Posted by dj chex on Aug-02-2005 23:48:

Amen to that! ( crys when thinking about what happend to his Klipsch 5 piece when the gain got too high)


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-03-2005 06:45:

When I record, I mix through my headphones with my monitors turned down. I only turn them up when I beatmatch. I hear much more clearly through my headphones and I can hear every adjustment I make.


Posted by Vero on Aug-03-2005 21:07:

i like the BX8s as a low powered booth monitor. they wouldnt work well in a club, but for a home setup i think they are very nice.


Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-04-2005 00:18:

How are the Event TR5s? I've read some fairly decent reviews on them. I'm wondering if any of you own them and how they sound for recording purposes. They are 299, so thats not a bad price. Not something I can afford at the moment but in about a month or two perhaps. I am really looking at either 5 inch or 6 inch monitors, because 8 inches or more is a little too loud. I know they have bigger sound but i'm putting these pretty close up due to lack of space currently (until I can move some things around in my room and get a new table for my CDJs) 5 inch or 6 inch is ideal. I don't want any more hearing damage than I already have lol...


Posted by dj chex on Aug-04-2005 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
How are the Event TR5s? I've read some fairly decent reviews on them. I'm wondering if any of you own them and how they sound for recording purposes. They are 299, so thats not a bad price. Not something I can afford at the moment but in about a month or two perhaps. I am really looking at either 5 inch or 6 inch monitors, because 8 inches or more is a little too loud. I know they have bigger sound but i'm putting these pretty close up due to lack of space currently (until I can move some things around in my room and get a new table for my CDJs) 5 inch or 6 inch is ideal. I don't want any more hearing damage than I already have lol...


Like i said, just listen and judge for yourself. But me personally, I'm use to Event monitors, so to me just about all of their monitors sound pretty good to me, while krk rockit series sound like ass to me. IT's just a matter of going out there and find a pair that works for you. It's like finding a girl.

BTW, the girl of my dreams in 5-6" studio monitors is the Dynaudio BM5A's
teh sexy one!11!

Except i don't have a $1000 for monitors.


Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-04-2005 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DeleriuM2K
dont bother buying studio monitors if youre only going to be recording sets on them and not producing. when you buy studio monitors your dollar is going towards its flat frequency response. flat frequency response isnt really necessary for recording DJ sets

for recording my sets I'm hooked up to my computer system (200 watts + sub) in combination with a stereo system (160 watts)... not my ideal setup but that's what I use. I have KRK Rokit 8's which I use for my productions, and I wouldnt dare use them with my DJing, I'm afraid I'll just pump them too loud for too long and ruin them. Studio monitors werent designed for DJ use at all

If youre looking to spend good money you should be looking for power, not frequency response - just like in the clubs. you'll never find a pair of near field studio monitors in a DJ booth at a club, not loud enough.

check out the Mackie SRM350


What kind of speakers would you recommend for me DeleriuM2K? Are you just talking about generic computer speakers, like the Logictech or Klipsch ones. I was looking at the Logictech Z-2300 speakers, but they didn't seem to have very good sound quality. The 2.1 speakers I found all didn't have the quality i've seen in studio monitors. I am not producing on them, as I don't have the time or money to spend on production right now. In my mind I have always thought that studio monitors were used for recording purposes, not just production. I do need to do some research more..



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