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Studio Monitors good for recording sets?
I'm wondering if getting a faily inexpensive pair of studio monitors, such as the BX5-A (the new version of the BX5s) from M-Audio are good enough for recording sets. I've wanted them for a while, but I just bought some CDJ 1000 MK2s, so I spent a lot of dough on those. Anyways I'm wondering if the BX5-As are used for recording or just for production/monitoring purposes. I would need an external soundcard/recording interface as well. If anyone has the BX5 or BX5-As (or even the BX8s/BX8-As) your input would be appreciated, thanks.
i dont have them, but i dont need them for answering your question...
the monitor/speaker you choose has no real impact on recording sets. the sound from your micer will be sent directly to your recording source. your speakers will only impact what you hear, but not what is being recorded.
powered studio monitors are normally flat in terms of frequency response. the advantage to a flat monior is that normally what you hear from them, is what is being recorded as well. so if you adjust the mixer (lows/mids/highs) through the mix, you will hear it the way it is being recorded. this assumes a totally flat response.
non-monitors, or home speakers may accentuate something in music. paradigm speakers are known to be warm, so the sound being resproduced through the speakers is warmer then what is being recorded.
Studio monitors for recording sets? it's kinda debatable. Friends and I personally use Event TR8s and i find it overall good for recording. In the past i've used 3 piece satelite/sub systems for recording and i often find muddy bass (from the excessive bass response) in my recordings. With monitors, you're gonna get a very correct sound, so if you mix into a track that has lets say lack of vocal detail, you can easily correct it with your eq. Otherwise, you probably won't hear it or correct it properly on regular speakers. Monitors are also great for final editing of your set. As i'm posting; I'm actually editing a 45min dnb set i've recorded on saturday at a house party. (it sounds like crap btw, lots of ground loops, dusty screwed needles, mojito drinks, and electrical noise from their tv)
The one thing i hate about spinning on monitors, they usually have a major lack of bass extension in order for them to be acurate. But seriously, before spending any money on monitors, spend days ifnot weeks and audition as many pairs as possiable. Be sure to bring cds that are very dynamic and with different timbres and you know inside and out. Also be very careful of your hearing, it's extremely easy to fatigue your ears. So only do 10min or so listening sessions and give yourself a few minutes break before listening to the next pair.
Also look at the KRK Rokkit's, they sounded much better than the M-Audio's to my ears.
Thanks, I am looking for speakers in the 199 to 299 price range. I have also considered the Rockit 5's by KRK. I don't need big ones, due to lack of space, and I am kind of in a budget crunch after spending $2,077 (yes i got a pretty good deal on the 1000s at GC). I would like to record my sets eventually. In the past with my analog turntables, I just used the tiny speakers on my laptop, but haha those were pretty pathetic sounding, but i was able to mix a set with mostly using my headphones....anyways is there any other monitors you would recommend other than the ones i've listed for the listed price range?
I actually use the Rokkit 5's myself, and also have the CDJ-1000's. I think they work great! The only suggestion I would make is get them up near your ear level, it makes a HUGE difference.
I personally didn't like the rockits that much. To me they were missing too much mid range and some detail.
Also check out the TR5, and behringer truth monitors. Daniel at dj mart actually sold me a pair of behringer truth b2031as for around $320 or so after shipping. But i had to cancel them b/c of other expenses were killing me. The Alesis m1MK2's were also pretty good and in your range, but to me the bass was a little too muddy. You may also wanna check out Alesis Prolinear 720, i'm kinda curious on how they sound.
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| Originally posted by dj chex The Alesis m1MK2's were also pretty good and in your range, but to me the bass was a little too muddy. |
Mackie HR-624 (http://www.mackie.com/products/hr624/)or HR-824 (http://www.mackie.com/products/hr824/)if you want to go high-end.
Made by Mackie - Tapco S5 (http://www.tapcogear.com/products/s5/index.html) and Tapco S8 (http://www.tapcogear.com/products/s8/index.html) will be more than sufficient and more cost effective than the Mackie.
M-Audio BX8 (http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...eBX8a-main.html) or BX5 (http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...eBX5a-main.html) would probably be your best non-Mackie purchase option.
Producers (not composers) and recording engineers might mention or suggest the standard Yamaha NS10 - however these are not appropriate for DJing.
Like i've said, just listen and find out which monitor is the best for you.
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker Mackie HR-624 (http://www.mackie.com/products/hr624/ |
I use Genelec's products (1030 and others) for monitoring.
Only bad thing whit these are the price tag.
try the behringers
$250
for pair and their powered. I think they are better than the m-audios
Also they last....I've had mine for 3 years and still sound great
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| Originally posted by dj chex I personally didn't like the rockits that much. To me they were missing too much mid range and some detail. Also check out the TR5, and behringer truth monitors. Daniel at dj mart actually sold me a pair of behringer truth b2031as for around $320 or so after shipping. But i had to cancel them b/c of other expenses were killing me. The Alesis m1MK2's were also pretty good and in your range, but to me the bass was a little too muddy. You may also wanna check out Alesis Prolinear 720, i'm kinda curious on how they sound. |
dont bother buying studio monitors if youre only going to be recording sets on them and not producing. when you buy studio monitors your dollar is going towards its flat frequency response. flat frequency response isnt really necessary for recording DJ sets
for recording my sets I'm hooked up to my computer system (200 watts + sub) in combination with a stereo system (160 watts)... not my ideal setup but that's what I use. I have KRK Rokit 8's which I use for my productions, and I wouldnt dare use them with my DJing, I'm afraid I'll just pump them too loud for too long and ruin them. Studio monitors werent designed for DJ use at all
If youre looking to spend good money you should be looking for power, not frequency response - just like in the clubs. you'll never find a pair of near field studio monitors in a DJ booth at a club, not loud enough.
check out the Mackie SRM350
mackie SRM350
I have to agree that it's better to get the mackies simply because you can have a party and/or rent them out and make money with them.
I don't know anyone that rents out their studio monitors.
However, the mackies do have a slight hiss when you turn them on even though there is no sound going into them. You'll hear that in your bedroom but not at a party.
But for a small studio or bedroom. Studio monitors are ideal for DJing. Just don't turn them up all the way and pretend you are at the club. After all you can ruin any speaker if you pump it too loud even the mackies. Trust me I know. Even the club speakers blow from time to time. Tool loud and your speakers aren't going to last I don't care if their Avalons.
Amen to that! (
crys when thinking about what happend to his Klipsch 5 piece when the gain got too high)
When I record, I mix through my headphones with my monitors turned down. I only turn them up when I beatmatch. I hear much more clearly through my headphones and I can hear every adjustment I make.
i like the BX8s as a low powered booth monitor. they wouldnt work well in a club, but for a home setup i think they are very nice.
How are the Event TR5s? I've read some fairly decent reviews on them. I'm wondering if any of you own them and how they sound for recording purposes. They are 299, so thats not a bad price. Not something I can afford at the moment but in about a month or two perhaps. I am really looking at either 5 inch or 6 inch monitors, because 8 inches or more is a little too loud. I know they have bigger sound but i'm putting these pretty close up due to lack of space currently (until I can move some things around in my room and get a new table for my CDJs) 5 inch or 6 inch is ideal. I don't want any more hearing damage than I already have lol...
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| Originally posted by Spirit5 How are the Event TR5s? I've read some fairly decent reviews on them. I'm wondering if any of you own them and how they sound for recording purposes. They are 299, so thats not a bad price. Not something I can afford at the moment but in about a month or two perhaps. I am really looking at either 5 inch or 6 inch monitors, because 8 inches or more is a little too loud. I know they have bigger sound but i'm putting these pretty close up due to lack of space currently (until I can move some things around in my room and get a new table for my CDJs) 5 inch or 6 inch is ideal. I don't want any more hearing damage than I already have lol... |
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| Originally posted by DeleriuM2K dont bother buying studio monitors if youre only going to be recording sets on them and not producing. when you buy studio monitors your dollar is going towards its flat frequency response. flat frequency response isnt really necessary for recording DJ sets for recording my sets I'm hooked up to my computer system (200 watts + sub) in combination with a stereo system (160 watts)... not my ideal setup but that's what I use. I have KRK Rokit 8's which I use for my productions, and I wouldnt dare use them with my DJing, I'm afraid I'll just pump them too loud for too long and ruin them. Studio monitors werent designed for DJ use at all If youre looking to spend good money you should be looking for power, not frequency response - just like in the clubs. you'll never find a pair of near field studio monitors in a DJ booth at a club, not loud enough. check out the Mackie SRM350 |
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