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Hi Hat Samples

Ok guys...

I am FINALLY getting to grips with all this percussion business - ive hunted down some tutorials and where each elements go etc and arrangements - but now im struggling to find the sort of Hi Hats you guys seem to use - all mine just dont sound right!?

I use Battery with Cubase, and simply load my samples into each cell - so wav files are what im looking for.

Ive download Dorumalaia's free wavs but even they dont seem as professional as ones I hear on a regular basis from your tracks. - if I buy the CD i realise there will be a massive choice but is it worth it?

SO - Where can I get good Hi Hat samples from?????
(I'd prefer them to be free although im at the end of my tether so would probably pay for them now!)

Please help so I can carry on with my development...!

The Messiah Project.

I typically use two different samples that come with fruity5. One of them is a kind of dry "TSHHH" sound, and the other is a sharp "TSSSS" sound. By playing them together and adjusting the percentages in volume I can achieve a huge variety of hihat sounds. I also EQ out low and mid frequencies and add a slight reverb of 4-5% or so.

I find that hihats are particularly flexible to play with, not like kicks or snares.

I'd say it's just a matter of processing them right. It's possible to make professional sounding hatloops with the Dorumalaia samples alone. But if you want more, there are lots of sites that provide you free samples. Here's a good one:

http://www.vipzone.time4base.com/free.php

A good tip from a mate (you can buy his cd's worldwide) was when programming hats to tune them, you'd be amazed how much better you can get them to sit in the mix and how much more musical you can make em with a bit of playing around

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Originally posted by DaveSchloosh! A good tip from a mate (you can buy his cd's worldwide) was when programming hats to tune them, you'd be amazed how much better you can get them to sit in the mix and how much more musical you can make em with a bit of playing around

Hmm... You mean pitching them, or?

Hey man,

I use "Vengeance Essential Clubsounds Vol.1" and it is by far THE best precussion sample cd I have heard, and its worth every cent.

There are literally thousands of samples that sound perfect.

You can get it here.

There is a demo song on there... it goes from one genre of electronic music to the next to show its capabilies and versatility, so make sure you listen to the whole thing.

Hope this helps, cheers.

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Hmm... You mean pitching them, or?

Yeah, alter the pitch, not just for the whole song but altering pitch gradually throught the song or even different pitches within the same bar/loop, you can even do it almost inaudibily and still have a significant impression on the track

Hi,

I�ve digged a lot of samples, from a lot of sources...
The final choices were (not only for hats, but snares, bass drums, toms, etc):

For realystic drums, get Native Instruments Battery Studio Drums (2 cds in one pack)...
For eletronic drums, get Native Instruments Battery Synthetic Drums (vol.1 and vol.2)...

With this 4 cds you will never look for other drum samples...

And then you will have a lot of very good and professional samples...

If you are into Trance production, the Synthetic Drums vol.1 will be a good choice, check a sample here:
http://www.native-instruments.com/f...r_trancekit.mp3

You can also check for other Synthetic Drums examples demos at:
http://www.native-instruments.com/i...&ftu=78e5289640

Listen to the demos, but focus on the drum sounds, because each demo was made for one eletronic music style...

do you assign filters in battery to each of your percussion samples? each percussion sample can be filtered into it's own space (kind of like eqing, but with a filter)

filtering your samples will completely change their sound. for instance using high-pass filters on hi-hats can make the difference between a clunky sample and something really sweet.

additionally, you can modulate the filters with lfos to give movement etc.

Yes, you can do this kind of filter on each sample, but i�m not doing it (yet, but i�ll try)...

What i do is control the ADSR envelope (mainly in Hats)...

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Originally posted by DaveSchloosh! A good tip from a mate (you can buy his cd's worldwide) was when programming hats to tune them, you'd be amazed how much better you can get them to sit in the mix and how much more musical you can make em with a bit of playing around

This is a really good piece of advice. With a bit of care and effort you should be able to tune pretty much all your drum and percussive parts and they'll sit in the mix all the better for it.

I'd go with m2j and purchase the VEC1 collection, it's got practically everything you need for your percussion needs

Yes, tuning (pitching) the hats, kicks and snare is the way, anything between +/- 3 will fit the sound in the mix...

The VEC1 has some good quality samples, and others not, so if you are trying to produce to get on a label, you should choose packs with only pro samples, or choose very carefully your samples, and delete others, but it will be a time consuming...

Thanks for all your help guys - there are certainly loads of options for me there.

The Vengeance clubsounds disk looks the best bet for me I think if im really serious about improving.

Thanks again,

The Messiah Project.

Yes, I�ve used the Vengeance Clubsounds for some time... I�ve deleted some poor samples, but it takes time to do... So if you have a Pack with only good and professional samples, then you don�t need to worry...

But, the most important thing is... PRODUCE...

Produce with your sample cds, use your vsts synths, compress, equalize, master, DO something...

With experience you will refining your sounds and mix quality..

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