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Posted by girllovingtvibe on Aug-05-2005 20:24:

Bottled Water No Different Than Tap Water?

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By TOM STANDAGE
Published: August 1, 2005
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IT'S summertime, and odds are that at some point during your day you'll reach for a nice cold bottle of water. But before you do, you might want to consider the results of an experiment I conducted with some friends one summer evening last year. On the table were 10 bottles of water, several rows of glasses and some paper for recording our impressions. We were to evaluate samples from each bottle for appearance, odor, flavor, mouth, feel and aftertaste - and our aim was to identify the interloper among the famous names. One of our bottles had been filled from the tap. Would we spot it?

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We worked our way through the samples, writing scores for each one. None of us could detect any odor, even when swilling water around in large wine glasses, but other differences between the waters were instantly apparent. Between sips, we cleansed our palates with wine. (It seemed only fair, since water serves the same function at a wine tasting.)

The variation between waters was wide, yet the water from the tap did not stand out: only one of us correctly identified it. This simple experiment seemed to confirm that most people cannot tell the difference between tap water and bottled water. Yet they buy it anyway - and in enormous quantities.

In 2004, Americans, on average, drank 24 gallons of bottled water, making it second only to carbonated soft drinks in popularity. Furthermore, consumption of bottled water is growing more quickly than that of soft drinks and has more than doubled in the past decade. This year, Americans will spend around $9.8 billion on bottled water, according to the Beverage Marketing Corporation.

Ounce for ounce, it costs more than gasoline, even at today's high gasoline prices; depending on the brand, it costs 250 to 10,000 times more than tap water. Globally, bottled water is now a $46 billion industry. Why has it become so popular?

It cannot be the taste, since most people cannot tell the difference in a blind tasting. Much bottled water is, in any case, derived from municipal water supplies, though it is sometimes filtered, or has additional minerals added to it.

Nor is there any health or nutritional benefit to drinking bottled water over tap water. In one study, published in The Archives of Family Medicine, researchers compared bottled water with tap water from Cleveland, and found that nearly a quarter of the samples of bottled water had significantly higher levels of bacteria. The scientists concluded that "use of bottled water on the assumption of purity can be misguided." Another study carried out at the University of Geneva found that bottled water was no better from a nutritional point of view than ordinary tap water.

Admittedly, both kinds of water suffer from occasional contamination problems, but tap water is more stringently monitored and tightly regulated than bottled water. New York City tap water, for example, was tested 430,600 times during 2004 alone.

What of the idea that drinking bottled water allows you to avoid the chemicals that are sometimes added to tap water? Alas, some bottled waters contain the same chemicals anyway - and they are, in any case, unavoidable.

Researchers at the University of Texas found that showers and dishwashers liberate trace amounts of chemicals from municipal water supplies into the air. Squirting hot water through a nozzle, to produce a fine spray, increases the surface area of water in contact with the air, liberating dissolved substances in a process known as "stripping." So if you want to avoid those chemicals for some reason, drinking bottled water is not enough. You will also have to wear a gas mask in the shower, and when unloading the dishwasher.

Bottled water is undeniably more fashionable and portable than tap water. The practice of carrying a small bottle, pioneered by supermodels, has become commonplace. But despite its association with purity and cleanliness, bottled water is bad for the environment. It is shipped at vast expense from one part of the world to another, is then kept refrigerated before sale, and causes huge numbers of plastic bottles to go into landfills.

Of course, tap water is not so abundant in the developing world. And that is ultimately why I find the illogical enthusiasm for bottled water not simply peculiar, but distasteful. For those of us in the developed world, safe water is now so abundant that we can afford to shun the tap water under our noses, and drink bottled water instead: our choice of water has become a lifestyle option. For many people in the developing world, however, access to water remains a matter of life or death.

More than 2.6 billion people, or more than 40 percent of the world's population, lack basic sanitation, and more than one billion people lack reliable access to safe drinking water. The World Health Organization estimates that 80 percent of all illness in the world is due to water-borne diseases, and that at any given time, around half of the people in the developing world are suffering from diseases associated with inadequate water or sanitation, which kill around five million people a year.

Widespread illness also makes countries less productive, more dependent on outside aid, and less able to lift themselves out of poverty. One of the main reasons girls do not go to school in many parts of the developing world is that they have to spend so much time fetching water from distant wells.

Clean water could be provided to everyone on earth for an outlay of $1.7 billion a year beyond current spending on water projects, according to the International Water Management Institute. Improving sanitation, which is just as important, would cost a further $9.3 billion per year. This is less than a quarter of global annual spending on bottled water.

I have no objections to people drinking bottled water in the developing world; it is often the only safe supply. But it would surely be better if they had access to safe tap water instead. The logical response, for those of us in the developed world, is to stop spending money on bottled water and to give the money to water charities.

If you don't believe me about the taste, then set up a tasting, and see if you really can tell the difference. A water tasting is fun, and you may be surprised by the results. There is no danger of a hangover. But you may well conclude, as I have, that bottled water has an unacceptably bitter taste."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/01/o...&pagewanted=all


Posted by Tunnel Rat on Aug-05-2005 20:44:

Re: Bottled Water No Different Than Tap Water?

This shouldn't be surprising to people. Bottled water is nothing more than a perfectly executed marketing campaign by Aquafina, Dasani, etc.; most of which are owned by soft drink manufacturing companies. They are double-dipping into may people's wallets and consumers don't even know it.

After the Walkerton tragedy...you better believe provincial/municipal governments are going to the same lengths to ensure our tap water is safe as Coke and Pepsi do to purify their bottled water.


Posted by DarkWater on Aug-05-2005 20:44:

naya tastes a thousand times better than any tap water I've ever drank


Posted by malek on Aug-05-2005 20:46:

McGill had released a study some years ago reaching the same conclusions... worse, some bottled water are not that healthy actually...


Posted by amb_ on Aug-05-2005 20:53:

quote:
Bottled Water - what's in a label?
CBC News Online | July 27, 2005

Sales of bottled water are booming around the globe. According to the World Wildlife Fund, it's the fastest-growing beverage sector in the world, worth about $33 billion CDN.


It's so big, both Coke and Pepsi have waded into the market with their own brands.

So far, there are no scientific studies that indicate bottled water is healthier for you than tap water. Bottled water, however, does not contain chlorine or fluoride.

What makes one brand different than the other? You may notice a number of terms listed on the label.

Bottled water can come from any source.

Here's a quick reference guide to what it all means.

Mineral and Spring Water - must come from an underground source (not a public water supply) and can't be changed in any way by chemicals. Mineral water has a higher amount of dissolved mineral salts.

Bottled Water - water from any source that can be distilled or carbonated or treated in any other way. The water in "Dasani" (owned by Coca-Cola) comes from municipal supplies in Brampton, Ont. and Calgary - straight out of the tap. (Pepsi owns "Aquafina.")

Artesian Water/Artesian Well Water - bottled water from a well that taps a confined aquifer (a water-bearing underground layer of rock or sand) in which the water level stands at some height above the top of the aquifer.

Sparkling Water - water that has been carbonated. Soda water, seltzer water and tonic water are not considered bottled waters.



Glacial Water - water from a source directly from a glacier.

Natural Water - water (such as spring, mineral, artesian or well water) obtained from an approved underground source and not from a municipal or public water supply system. This water has undergone no treatment other than physical filtration and iron removal.

Purified Water - water produced by distillation, de-ionization or reverse osmosis, which contains not more than 10 mg/L of total dissolved solids.

What's in the water?

Mineral water:

* Naturally-carbonated natural mineral water is water which, after treatment, replacement of gas and packaging, has the same content of gas from the source.

* Non-carbonated natural mineral water is water which, after treatment and packaging, prevents hydrogen carbonate salts from dissolving.

* De-carbonated natural mineral water is water which after treatment, does not have the same carbon dioxide content as when it first came out of the ground.

* Carbonated natural mineral water is water which, after treatment and packaging, has been made bubbly by adding carbon dioxide.

* Demineralized - the dissolved solids (minerals) have been removed.

* Re-mineralized - after filtration that removes all the solids, some are put back in.

* Ozonized - ozone is added to kill bacteria.

* Super-oxygenated - oxygen is added, most of which escapes when you twist the cap.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/consumertips/


Posted by smuncky on Aug-05-2005 20:57:

Glacial Water is the best water i have ever tasted. too bad it costs a lot and u gotta know where to find it


Posted by joinT on Aug-05-2005 21:09:

remember not to re-use plastic water bottles for very long.. once opened they slowly deteriorate and crap gets into the water..


Posted by InfectedCluster on Aug-05-2005 21:10:

I can see buying water bottles in certain places like countries where you know its not safe to do so or maybe the party where they don't allow you in with your own supply (not to mention countless other reasons). I think over all though it is very silly and these companies are laughing themselves rich. I just save my pennies and stick to the tap.


Posted by Tunnel Rat on Aug-05-2005 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by InfectedCluster
I can see buying water bottles in certain places like countries where you know its not safe to do so ...


Bottled water is not sold in many of these countries, which makes it even more silly. People buy the most bottled water in countries that have the safest tap water on earth. Inform yourselves consumers!!!!....or maybe I should say wake up and realize that a water bottle shouldn't be considered an fashionable accessory.


Posted by Playa24_7 on Aug-05-2005 21:25:

Dasani does taste fackin wicked though. I dont care what anyone says.


Posted by bass drive on Aug-05-2005 21:32:

I don't tink it's a good idea to drink straight from the tap.
installing some filter would be a better idea imo.

btw, these damn soft drinks filtered water is a rip-off.
I belive botled water should at least be spring water.


Posted by Euphorica on Aug-05-2005 21:37:

water isnt supposed to taste like anything.

most bottled water is the same as tap water...its just filtered more.

there are some that are authentic/better water though.


I do use a brita filter at home though. Cuts back on the metal/sewer taste that the tap typically has.


Posted by joinT on Aug-05-2005 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Tunnel Rat
Bottled water is not sold in many of these countries.


as a tourist in China (beijing for me) do NOT buy bottled water except from an actual store.. they refill bottles of water and try to sell them as bottled water.. and the tap water will make you sick..


Posted by Skipper on Aug-05-2005 21:55:

Re: Re: Bottled Water No Different Than Tap Water?

quote:
Originally posted by Tunnel Rat
This shouldn't be surprising to people. Bottled water is nothing more than a perfectly executed marketing campaign by Aquafina, Dasani, etc.; most of which are owned by soft drink manufacturing companies. They are double-dipping into may people's wallets and consumers don't even know it.


Dasani makes me laugh - its whole campaign is that its filtered 5x - OOOOOH, if I ran my tap water through the brita five times, I'd get the exact same thing.

the only bottled water I trust to be worth anything other than tap water is evian.


Posted by Streamline on Aug-05-2005 22:01:

If you've looked at the lables on the back of bottles of water, you can see the ppm's of some of the free elements that would normaly exist in water. What is usually missing from those lables, meaning its not in the water is Fluoride. Our tap water has fluoride in it, so generally speaking tap water is much better for our teeth than bottled water.


Posted by InfectedCluster on Aug-05-2005 22:41:

quote:
Bottled water is not sold in many of these countries, which makes it even more silly


Your right about that...I remember seeing a Discovery channel program where they showed people drinking water out of a river only feet from where someone else was doing there laundry and who knows what else.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Aug-05-2005 23:16:

Wow, lots of misinformation here.

Your Brita filters that you use are pieces of shit. All they really do is remove the taste and smell of chlorine. The bad stuff is pretty much all left in the water. The water doesn't get run through the filter membranes long enough to really do anything.

Dasani water is very heavily filtered using a reverse osmosis system. It is then re-mineralized to have "some" things put back into it. It isn't mineral water, though. Dasani is nothing more than tap water that was very, VERY heavily filtered and then bottled. It's very safe stuff.

Aquafina is the exact same shit as Dasani, but doesn't have minerals re-added to it.

Spring water is pretty much the best stuff for you, aside from real mineral water. It's got all those minerals and whatnot in it, and is usually triple-filtered (run through 3 different types of filters) to remove any biological contaminmants. Then it'll be ozonized (adding ozone to the water to kill anything that may have gotten past the filters). This added ozone dissipates over a period of about 24 hours.

Something of note - Perrier is NOT mineral water anymore. The water they draw from their spring has 475ppm (parts per million) of dissolved solids (minerals and such). By Canadian law, a water cannot be declared mineral water unless it has a dissolved solid content of over 500ppm.

So instead of springing for that super expensive mineral water with like 510ppm, go for the much much cheaper spring water with a content of like 450ppm or something like that. For instance, the Nestle Pure Life spring water I'm drinking right now has a content of 480ppm and isn't even $5 for a case of 24.


Oh yeah, if the name of the water has the word "Springs" in it, it isn't necessarily spring water. Check the label closely, under the name, if it is really genuine spring water, it is required by law to say "NATURAL SPRING WATER" under the name, and then the source it is bottled from.


Posted by preppie chick on Aug-06-2005 00:38:

Bottle water no different than tap water?

she certainly doesn't think so....


Serena Williams Christens World's Most Expensive Bath, the $5,000 'Evian Experience' at SoBe's Hotel Victor


Posted by amb_ on Aug-06-2005 00:41:

I have an artesian well where I live. Delicious water!

w00t!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-06-2005 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
Glacial Water is the best water i have ever tasted. too bad it costs a lot and u gotta know where to find it


Where I used to live as a kid (Revelstoke, BC) that's all we had; awesome stuff and the best in the World.

I've read studies on centenarians (people who live to be 100) and they figured one link was the access to glacial water. The run-off of essential minerals that the water picked up while coming down the mountian, kept them healther than others who didn't have access to those same minerals in their normal diet.

My wife and I went to a seminar...oh...well over 6-7 yrs ago and they talked about how bottled water actually has less regulations than tap water.
(I know this is true because I know of a guy in Revelstoke that made a mint bottling water right out of the stream and shipped it to Japan for his fortune.)
They tested the water and found that Dasani (Coke) was actually one of the best for treating their water since they use a reverse osmosis process but add minerals back. Believe it or not, you can strip water down too much; they have to add some of the minerals back that your body requires.

For home use, we bought a counter-style, carbon-block based water filter for our tap that we replace every year and man is that thing GROSS when we change it.
I don't drink out the tap EVER unless forced to...


Posted by VERTiG0 on Aug-06-2005 02:31:

Today, the bottled water industry is very, very heavily regulated.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-06-2005 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Euphorica
I do use a brita filter at home though. Cuts back on the metal/sewer taste that the tap typically has.


Brita is better than nothing but not much better.
Sure it will get rid of the particulates but that's about it.
There's still TONS of stuff in the water you don't see that's worse that what you do see.
Might as well drink out of the tap...


Posted by dance2dabeat on Aug-06-2005 07:37:

some tap water can be really fucking discusting!

I prefer fresh,clean bottled water.


Posted by b4k-oz on Aug-06-2005 12:42:

After doing our own water test we found that our drink of choice is:

Fred's Performance Oxygenated Sprint Water

It's a little more expensive than most of the bottled water out there...and sometimes we try other waters for variety but we always come back to Fred's.

Glacial water sounds thirst quenching...but where would we find it and how expensive is it really?


Posted by Tunnel Rat on Aug-06-2005 13:11:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Today, the bottled water industry is very, very heavily regulated.


Who regulates it?


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