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Posted by Thois on Aug-06-2005 18:23:

Advanced Gate VST

I am looking for something like the vanguard gate/mstriggergate, but far more advanced...
In the gates mentioned above you just put blocks on or off (fruity style)... I want to be able to see a window and draw a line with a pencil tool which controls the volume of a vst instrument...

something like this:

i know this can be done in fl with the event editor on the volume knob, but i am searching for a vst which does this over a loop of 8 beats constantly (it has to synchronize with the host's bpm too)

i hope you understand, sorry for the long post, but this is really important for me to improve my music

anyone know of such a vst effect?

Posted by everyMan on Aug-06-2005 18:48:

If the goal is to avoid drawing the automation all track long, you can do an 8 beat pattern wich automate the volume and repeat it in the playlist window.
If you really want to use a vst I dont understand why?

Posted by Thois on Aug-06-2005 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by everyMan
If the goal is to avoid drawing the automation all track long, you can do an 8 beat pattern wich automate the volume and repeat it in the playlist window.
If you really want to use a vst I dont understand why?

Well i am planning to change to Ableton Live, so in that program i wont be able to draw the automation like in the event editor of fl studio i guess...
+ I noticed using the event editor in fl studio on volume knobs take quite some amount of cpu power

Posted by everyMan on Aug-06-2005 21:01:

Do you use Reaktor 5 ?
I think you can create an similar effect with.

There are drawed enveloppes with loop points and BPM sync like the FM7 enveloppes.

You can easily assign the enveloppe to control the volume input.

Posted by I_LUV_PVD on Aug-06-2005 23:55:

who told you you can't draw automation in ableton live?

Posted by slawekmx on Aug-07-2005 00:15:

try camelspace

is nice vst-fx plugin with trance gate (more advanced than vanguard trancegate) ,delay,reverb and filters

Posted by Rusty O'Hara on Aug-07-2005 00:42:

What "everyman" said... you don't need a vst effect to do this for you.

Either just draw the automation for the actual midi part or just create a 2nd part purely for "controller" purposes; and assign this to the same midi/vst channel.

If you have a 8 bar loop, looped 4 times (32) then you could apply your "gate loop" on a new track and have that running at any length you want.

BTW, You can draw automation in Ableton.

Sounds to me like you are already doing what you want to be doing; and one advantage of using midi will be it will be synced as/when you choose; not limited to the constraints of a vst plugin.

Posted by Sean Walsh on Aug-07-2005 02:10:

You definitely can do that in Ableton.

Posted by Thois on Aug-07-2005 15:43:

ok thanks guys, really helped me out

Posted by nhibberd on Aug-08-2005 17:45:

Still think you would need quite a fast computer though on the faster automations. Or you will get latency prety badly. It might be alright on mixdown though.

Charly Darwin