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What do you consider yourself?

So, lets see what the ratios really are.

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and yeah i do realise its a lot more complicated than this, but just to give us an idea!

I've gone for "other" as I'm not sure if "socialist" covers what I consider myself

I am a social democrat which is basically all the political stuff associated with liberalism with a Keynesian economy (ie a mixed one) I believe all natural monopolies should be nationalised as I do not think they are as efficient privately operated (not to mention the trust factor of these vital services with corporations whose main goal is to make as much money as possible whilst spending as little as possible)

i am different from day to day, although i didnt notice that opition so i voted "other"



I would have to be a dictator really, i would be excellent.

The "Libertarian" Party in this country is a definition they chose because of their adherence to our original values of "Liberty", when we most closely followed our Constitution (less government, less taxes, more freedoms, etc.)...but it's not to be confused with the term "Liberal" in this country...............that's a dirty word.

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Originally posted by George Smiley I've gone for "other" as I'm not sure if "socialist" covers what I consider myself I am a social democrat which is basically all the political stuff associated with liberalism with a Keynesian economy (ie a mixed one) I believe all natural monopolies should be nationalised as I do not think they are as efficient privately operated (not to mention the trust factor of these vital services with corporations whose main goal is to make as much money as possible whilst spending as little as possible)

Stop makeing things so complicated

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i do realise its a lot more complicated than this, but just to give us an idea!

I picked "Liberal". I'm not really sure of the difference between Social Liberal & (plain) Liberal. I guess social Liberal is when you have liberal beliefs on social issues, but remain either in the middle or even authoritarian on stuff like economics?

Also, what's the exact differences between communism & socialism? Is power & control the only difference?

This poll is shit, use the one and only divine and true poll:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forum/s...threadid=284220

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Originally posted by George Smiley I believe all natural monopolies should be nationalised

What's a "natural monopoly"?

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Originally posted by ali92 I picked "Liberal". I'm not really sure of the difference between Social Liberal & (plain) Liberal. I guess social Liberal is when you have liberal beliefs on social issues, but remain either in the middle or even authoritarian on stuff like economics? Also, what's the exact differences between communism & socialism? Is power & control the only difference?

Nah, i think a social liberal is someone who believe in the market economy but still think a big government is a good idea, they also tend to have more rules and stuff than a real liberal.

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Originally posted by trancaholic What's a "natural monopoly"?

Owning TA.com and banning whosever signature you like?




Don't worry, this whining and complaining will only go on for about 2 more months

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Originally posted by trancaholic What's a "natural monopoly"?

Something that works best as a monoply (ie it has a big returns to scale). For example telecomunications used to be one, trains is one, hydro is one. Many argue that natural monopolies doesnt really exist tho, which I think is true (at least in most instances), we have seen this when it comes to the tele market for example.

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Nah, i think a social liberal is someone who believe in the market economy but still think a big government is a good idea, they also tend to have more rules and stuff than a real liberal.

OK. So I'm (we're?) 'real' liberals, then. I'm not for a big gov't & the loads of rules, etc, that even some people who consider themselves very liberal in this country (the US) do.

@Yoepus: LOL. When will you Zionists understand that your cause meets little or no sympathy in international fora. One would have thought that message was getting through by now - apparently not.

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Originally posted by ali92 OK. So I'm (we're?) 'real' liberals, then. I'm not for a big gov't & the loads of rules, etc, that even some people who consider themselves very liberal in this country (the US) do.

Exactly, liberal is all about being liberal, not about being not liberal like it is in the US

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Something that works best as a monoply (ie it has a big returns to scale).

Ok, so the "natural" part is really a misnomer.

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Many argue that natural monopolies doesnt really exist tho, which I think is true (at least in most instances), we have seen this when it comes to the tele market for example.

Yeah, as long as we agree that no natural monopolies exist, I agree with George Smiley that they should me nationalized.

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Exactly, liberal is all about being liberal, not about being not liberal like it is in the US

"Liberal" is really one of those words that have been totally abused to the point of losing its original meaning during the Kulturkampf in the US these last years. "Freedom" and "liberty" are two of the others. But as you yourself said that democratic ideals should be used for determining what the semantics of a word is, you should really start using "liberal" in the perverted sense.

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Originally posted by Yoepus This poll is shit, use the one and only divine and true poll: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forum/s...threadid=284220

My thread is like 50% more popular than yours, so there you go!!!

liberal and libertarian are not even close. libertarian is more of a practical conservative that laughs at most liberal beliefs and critisizes many conservative beliefs.

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Originally posted by rainbow_marble liberal and libertarian are not even close. libertarian is more of a practical conservative that laughs at most liberal beliefs and critisizes many conservative beliefs.

In the US yes, but i think someone liberal in Europe would be closer to a libertian than a democrat aka US liberals

So damn complicated. What's the point of this again? I'm sure we can all predict each others arguments by now. At least the old schoolers.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Owning TA.com and banning whosever signature you like? Don't worry, this whining and complaining will only go on for about 2 more months

You're not the first one who's sig got edited Youpes. Although I thought your sig was funny, it's understandable how some might find it offensive. Remember Zig, the irish dude who used to post here not too long ago? His sig was "100% Liberal" and that was the first one I remember being removed. I don't even understand how that could possibly be offensive.

Anyways, I think it's stupid to ban sigs because they're political. Bring back the mustard!

I went with other, since I don't adhere to any one ideology, they all have they're pros and cons. If I were to consider myself anything, I guess I would be somewhere between Socialist(not to be confused with communism, and I know many ppl aren't aware of the distinction between the two) and Libertarian (in the American sense) and Anarchist(no, I don't believe in choas and disorder, by Anarchism I mean constantly questioning the legitimacy of authority, if a Goverment is corrupt/tyranical, it needs to be torn down and replaced by a new one).

hmmm. its difficult to find a balance between theoretical idealism and some form of practicality.

anywayz, im kinda like shaolin, a mixture of libertarian & socialist perspectives. maybe even throw in some neo-con (apparently) too (tho neo is such a bullshit wanky term)

on a grand scale, id like everyone on the planet to be able to enjoy the freedoms, safeties & opportunities that ive been lucky enough to receive. whichever ideology fits in best at the time.

Everytime I check, I'm a centrist, must mean something

On PoliticalCompass.org's test, I haven't moved much in my 5th time taking this test:

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Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -1.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62

Have others tried taking this test?

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