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Posted by KristineClub on Aug-16-2005 19:57:

DJ's Taboo

I want to know what you guys consider to be a big no-no for DJs (e.g. mixing together two tracks from the same producer). I usually have a whole list in my head but right now I'm drawing a blank. I'll post when I think of them but in the meantime, I want to here what you think is DJ Taboo.


Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-16-2005 20:20:

1- linking 2 cdjs to automix
2- jesus pose (hear that armin?)
3- 2 heavy vocals mixed back to back (some housier stuff can do it)
4- talking over the mic during your set
5- dropping nothing but you 3x


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-16-2005 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid
2- jesus pose (hear that armin?)
3- 2 heavy vocals mixed back to back (some housier stuff can do it)


2- I totally agree
3- I don't follow AvB so what does that mean?


Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-16-2005 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by KristineClub
2- I totally agree
3- I don't follow AvB so what does that mean?


the jesus pose?

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Posted by Chris Larkin on Aug-16-2005 20:59:

Armin stands up tall during the middle of a massive breakdown (he especially enjoys doing this at outdoor festivals), and sticks his arms and legs out as if he's being crucified. Quite a few of the dutch superstars, with egos the size of Kuwait enjoy doing this.

I'd also say that they musn't attempt to scratch unless they know that they're bloody good at it, because otherwise it sounds hopeless. Eddie Halliwell can do it, but most people can't.


Posted by alligator on Aug-16-2005 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid

2- jesus pose (hear that armin?)



I've also seen Tiesto do this!


but one question why do you consider two hard vocal tracks back to back a taboo?


Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-16-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by alligator
I've also seen Tiesto do this!


but one question why do you consider two hard vocal tracks back to back a taboo?


maybe not taboo, but you need to be very careful that the 2 vocals dont layer over one another.


Posted by alligator on Aug-16-2005 23:26:

i get what you mean...can't have the vocals overlap...


Posted by saryn on Aug-16-2005 23:37:

i dont agree with the 2 heavy vocal tracks not being back to back. i have heard it done very well.
i know a guy that went from one track singing to teh next track singing in a row. one stops singing the other starts. is was quite cool. i also heard him do a duel vocal overlay and it sounded sweet. ill see if i can remember which mixset and post the clip to show you.
i do agree that you should generally not talk over your mixing.


Posted by djtrinity on Aug-16-2005 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid








is that armin??

time to go for the Mr Clean!


Posted by Boomer187 on Aug-17-2005 00:27:

i see no problem with popping vocal tracks right after each other. Its pretty easy to do it right and make it sound good.


Jesus pose, can work to get the crowd going, but there are many many other moves to do. SO yea, 86 the jesus.

if you are an opening dj, don't play tracks from the dj your opening for. And don't try to show up the other dj by playing a high energy set the whoel time. Your there to warm up

i am sure there are more, like letting records play out til silence...and trainwrecking....and overused effects....but I got lazy.


Posted by Basstard on Aug-17-2005 01:05:

the worst taboo for me would be DJs trying to mix when they know they cant.

for example the other night i heard a DJ try to mix Beyonce onto the end of Born Slippy

i can best describe the sound as a grenade going off in a firework factory. with all the fireworks going off, a stray hits a small jet causing the pilot to lose control and thus crashs into the factory. awed by such a site, one driver took his eye off the road to gaze at the spectacle..... SMASH! he rams straight into a passing car. the two owners of the cars get out and start arguing very heatedly until they finally come to blows. a crowd gathers around the two brawling men to watch. most of them are shouting lager lager while one bitch in the background is going on about being crazy in love.

just pissed me of ya know?


Posted by davemolina on Aug-17-2005 01:08:

I figure using the flanger on every breakdown is a big no-no...

If you really have to play "The Conga" by Gloria Estefan at a house party, try to find a remix and keep away from the original...I heard that dancefloor died a horrible death.


Posted by chiwi on Aug-17-2005 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Larkin
I'd also say that they musn't attempt to scratch unless they know that they're bloody good at it, because otherwise it sounds hopeless. Eddie Halliwell can do it, but most people can't.


Couldn't agree more about the scratching. Most trance/hardhouse dj cannot scratch, and even for those that do (inc Eddie and illogik here) it still sounds odd. I'd much rather if they stick to mixing!


Posted by Zild on Aug-17-2005 01:16:

Dave, you talking about John Puga?


Posted by davemolina on Aug-17-2005 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Dave, you talking about John Puga?


OMG, you heard the story!!! LOL

Yeah, it was him. He was jamming out to it too!!!


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-17-2005 03:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
the worst taboo for me would be DJs trying to mix when they know they cant.

for example the other night i heard a DJ try to mix Beyonce onto the end of Born Slippy

i can best describe the sound as a grenade going off in a firework factory. with all the fireworks going off, a stray hits a small jet causing the pilot to lose control and thus crashs into the factory. awed by such a site, one driver took his eye off the road to gaze at the spectacle..... SMASH! he rams straight into a passing car. the two owners of the cars get out and start arguing very heatedly until they finally come to blows. a crowd gathers around the two brawling men to watch. most of them are shouting lager lager while one bitch in the background is going on about being crazy in love.

just pissed me of ya know?


LOL!!


Posted by MunkyAngel on Aug-17-2005 03:32:

if you want to blame someone for the "jesus pose" blame it on oakenfold.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-17-2005 04:36:

letting annyone in the booth


cept for imp people like:

promoters
hot babes
owners
other djs


Posted by Zack Roth on Aug-17-2005 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
if you are an opening dj, don't play tracks from the dj your opening for.


I disagree. I would say don't play his / her newly released stuff, or one of their big tracks, but playing an older track of theirs that they wouldn't ever play is ok. I opened for Noel Sanger a couple months ago and played his "Breathe Here and Now" kind of as a complement to him. Its a few years old so I knew he would never play it. I didn't see it as me trying to steal his thunder and steal the show.


Posted by webbie on Aug-17-2005 06:16:

Oakenfold is another one that always does the Jesus pose. It looks so silly, couldnt find a decent picture tho.


Posted by dj chex on Aug-17-2005 06:45:

The only people taht should do the Jesus pose is either Jesus or people that are being crucified.

Another thing, opening djs shouldn't open clubs w/ high bpm dance music. It's really weird going to an event early where there's 10 people there and the dj is spinning 130+bpm hard house or trance. You gotta start chilled bud, people wanna mingle when there's few people there, not get pounded w/ bass and beats. Give em something like downtempo or ambient.


Posted by r5a on Aug-17-2005 07:46:

I'd rather them getting into the music and having fun with the crowd then standing their like a rock just straight mixing and not looking like their enjoying it. I've seen alot of DJs in videos tap their fingers in the air to the beat and rise them if the record starts to build up, the crowd loves that shit apprently. I don't see anything wrong with it tbh. Its like at concerts, would you rather have a band just stand their playing their instruments or would you rather have them get into it?

About the two tracks from the same arist? I frown on it yeah, and my stomach cringes when I mix aritsts of the same. I think it shows that you don't know alot about what your playing / you don't have alot of records. But then again, as long as it sounds good, it really soudn't matter, so for me it's kinda a fify fity thing.


Posted by webbie on Aug-17-2005 09:08:

quote:
Originally posted by r5a
I'd rather them getting into the music and having fun with the crowd then standing their like a rock just straight mixing and not looking like their enjoying it. I've seen alot of DJs in videos tap their fingers in the air to the beat and rise them if the record starts to build up, the crowd loves that shit apprently. I don't see anything wrong with it tbh. Its like at concerts, would you rather have a band just stand their playing their instruments or would you rather have them get into it?

About the two tracks from the same arist? I frown on it yeah, and my stomach cringes when I mix aritsts of the same. I think it shows that you don't know alot about what your playing / you don't have alot of records. But then again, as long as it sounds good, it really soudn't matter, so for me it's kinda a fify fity thing.


I tend to disagree with you there.
Firstly, DJs doesnt have to do the Jesus pose to give you the impression that they are enjoying it. I once again points in the direction of
Digweed, he doesnt do the Jesus pose. He claps his hands once every now and then and it still rocks like hell.

Secondly, if you mix two tracks from the same artist, it doesnt matter. If you are a DJ that know anything you know that you will play
whatever works (almost) on the dancefloor and playing two tracks from the same author really isnt a big deal. Why skip playing a rocking
tune just because its made of the same author?

Altho playing lots and lots of the same creator tends to get lame, especially if its by the artist him/herself.


Posted by T-Soma on Aug-17-2005 09:39:

The mixing the songs from the same artists reminds me of this tracklist from this guy called DJ Denmark where their was about 5 or 6 brooklyn bounce songs together, it wasnt some brook bounce special or sumfin either.


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