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Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-17-2005 19:58:

Anyone with the Sony V6/7506......

do the Beyer Velour mod to the pads?


Posted by Freak on Aug-17-2005 21:01:

Going to have to do it soon as mine are getting worn- but im not buying those horrid velour pads- im getting the synthetic leather-esque ones.. cant stand velour as it makes me itch.


Posted by shattered~soul on Aug-18-2005 01:37:

Re: Anyone with the Sony V6/7506......

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid
do the Beyer Velour mod to the pads?


I did the Beyer-mod and never looked back!
They improve the comfort over the original pads by far, there softer, so they don�t hurt even after hours and hours and you don�t sweat nearly as much.
I couldn�t notice any impact on sound.

If you have any special questions just post or pm me


Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-18-2005 13:59:

and i hear you sweat a hell of a lot less with the velour. is that true?

was it hard to do? how long did it take you?


Posted by shattered~soul on Aug-18-2005 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid
and i hear you sweat a hell of a lot less with the velour. is that true?



quote:
Originally posted by shattered~soul
...and you don�t sweat nearly as much.


Like I said, yes it is



quote:
was it hard to do? how long did it take you?


No, just take off the original pads, remove the piece in the middle (over the "speaker"), you�ll also need that for the new pads.

Put the (original) piece back in place and put the new pad on, you�ll see how the original ones where attached, the new ones attach the same way.
The best is, if you do that, one pad after the other, so you can still look how it�s placed originally, but it�s really easy, something that takes maybe like 5 minutes


Posted by jdat on Aug-18-2005 22:51:

The ultimate mod for these headphones which also stands for just about every other one on the market is to change the cable and put in a real one.

The stock cable on the Sony's is garbage. If you change and put say some Belden or Canare Starquad it improves the sound immensely.


Can't find pics of a recabled 7506 but doesn't it make cans look so much sexier?


Posted by MERLIN on Aug-19-2005 00:42:

thats really nice, i like it very much.


Posted by shattered~soul on Aug-19-2005 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
...The stock cable on the Sony's is garbage. If you change and put say some Belden or Canare Starquad it improves the sound immensely...


No offense but these aftermarket cables have no effect on sound...
This was clearly proved in a lot of abx-tests.

Also with hifi-equipment in general, there�s no difference in sound, when using different cables.
I also tried that myself with different cd-players, recorders, minidisc, dvd, and different cables (analog chinch, digital coaxial, toslink).

I monitored them with a sony cd3k (driven by a seperate amp), and imho the whole hifi-tuning industry does sell voodoo-stuff that has a placebo-effect if any...




(and btw, I think that shrink foil on the recabled senn on the pic makes it look ugly and cheap )


Posted by dj chex on Aug-19-2005 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by shattered~soul
No offense but these aftermarket cables have no effect on sound...
This was clearly proved in a lot of abx-tests.

Also with hifi-equipment in general, there�s no difference in sound, when using different cables.
I also tried that myself with different cd-players, recorders, minidisc, dvd, and different cables (analog chinch, digital coaxial, toslink).

I monitored them with a sony cd3k (driven by a seperate amp), and imho the whole hifi-tuning industry does sell voodoo-stuff that has a placebo-effect if any...




(and btw, I think that shrink foil on the recabled senn on the pic makes it look ugly and cheap )


I know you're gonna get flamed. Not by me though.

Anyways here's what Alex Rosner said:

quote:
I found speaker wire cable, that costs 60 dollars per foot. They sell it so expensive, because it looks so pretty. But I promise you, if I take a lamp cord, that cost 20 cents per foot, you would not hear a difference.�


Alex Rosner made the first dj mixer, Rosie, created the first stereo sound systems in clubs, also he aided Rudy Bozak in modding the CMA-10 into a dj mixer. He also did the sound system for The Loft nightclub in the early 70s which to this day is still one of the best sounding venues in the world. Im not absolutely sure, but i think him and his company did the sound system for Madison square gardens. I trust his judgements about setups more than almost everyone else.

BTW, i once thew away close to $100 for a Monster Cable audiophile interconnect that was suppose to make lightyears of improvement in my turntable's sound quality; instead it introduced groundloops that wasn't there before with the origional cable that came with my ssl interface. BTW, the salesman allowed me to return the cable; so i bought many cheaper interconnects that i actually needed.


Posted by Freak on Aug-19-2005 11:41:

is it the beyer 250 pads i need?

Have lost the bookmark I made to the part numbers.


Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-19-2005 13:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
is it the beyer 250 pads i need?

Have lost the bookmark I made to the part numbers.


BEEDT250V

i think thats the part number.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...u=313962&is=REG


Posted by shattered~soul on Aug-19-2005 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
I know you're gonna get flamed. Not by me though.


Fine!
My opinion is backed by listening and not by something I read on the inet, so no problem with anyone trying that


quote:
Anyways here's what Alex Rosner said:

I found speaker wire cable, that costs 60 dollars per foot. They sell it so expensive, because it looks so pretty. But I promise you, if I take a lamp cord, that cost 20 cents per foot, you would not hear a difference.�
...


I like that guy!


They only advantage of expensive cables are golden plugs which (can) save you from corrosion (but hey, you can get these plugs for very little money and solder cables like that for much less, some gear even comes with golden plugs on the stock cables)


Posted by shattered~soul on Aug-19-2005 13:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
is it the beyer 250 pads i need?

Have lost the bookmark I made to the part numbers.


Yes, the ones CosmoKid has posted a link to.
If you get them elsewhere just make sure they�re the velour ones and not the pleather ones (haven�t tested these, but I think they�re pretty much like the original sony pads)


Posted by Freak on Aug-19-2005 14:12:

http://www.beyerdynamic.co.uk/beyer...s_headsets.html

442.704 EDT 250 V Ear cushions pair, velours, for DT 25*/28*/29*
443.549 EDT 250 S Ear cushions pair, soft PVC, for DT 25*/28*/29*


when i priced them up before I seem to recall they were $10.50 direct from beyer.

i will be buying the 'S' as I HATE velour


Posted by jdat on Aug-19-2005 14:41:

quote:
Originally posted by shattered~soul
No offense but these aftermarket cables have no effect on sound...
This was clearly proved in a lot of abx-tests.

Also with hifi-equipment in general, there�s no difference in sound, when using different cables.
I also tried that myself with different cd-players, recorders, minidisc, dvd, and different cables (analog chinch, digital coaxial, toslink).

I monitored them with a sony cd3k (driven by a seperate amp), and imho the whole hifi-tuning industry does sell voodoo-stuff that has a placebo-effect if any...
(and btw, I think that shrink foil on the recabled senn on the pic makes it look ugly and cheap )


Well I'm not going to debate about this because it is truly an everlasting conflict of yes or no does higher priced cable make a difference.

Myself I sincerely believe it does. I have run my setup with 2 dollar rca's and some 150+ dollar ones and there is a difference; have also been at some demos in shops where they ran 1500$ versus cheaper cables.

But I also understand that very few can truly perceive the difference.

It's tricky ...... I'm not going to deny that

Btw how did the CD3K's sound ?


Posted by wrzonance on Aug-19-2005 17:22:

Gah, just get some different headphones. I use the 7506s all the time and I hate them. Your low end is just not there and there's way too much sparkle in them.

Seriously. Even the MDR-v700s are better because they actually boost the low end by a few dB.

But you're talking about modding pads. Oh well. Suite yourself, but I hate those cans.


... and on an un-related note, if you want balanced MIXING go for some AKGs. that's where it's at.


Posted by CosmoKid on Aug-19-2005 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
Gah, just get some different headphones. I use the 7506s all the time and I hate them. Your low end is just not there and there's way too much sparkle in them.

Seriously. Even the MDR-v700s are better because they actually boost the low end by a few dB.

But you're talking about modding pads. Oh well. Suite yourself, but I hate those cans.


... and on an un-related note, if you want balanced MIXING go for some AKGs. that's where it's at.


I LOVE my 7506s. The 700s may be the worst headphones I have ever put on.

More proof that only YOU can decide which ones are the best for you.


Posted by shattered~soul on Aug-19-2005 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
Gah, just get some different headphones. I use the 7506s all the time and I hate them. Your low end is just not there and there's way too much sparkle in them.

Seriously. Even the MDR-v700s are better because they actually boost the low end by a few dB...


You must have listened to a different 7506 than me
Mine have fine bass, almost a bit to much for my taste, the v500/700 to me have no deep-bass only totally bloated mid-bass.
I agree that the highs on the 7506 are a bit too strong, but not enough to make me not like it.

But I guess this is something that comes down to personal taste anyways



quote:
Originally posted by jdat
...Btw how did the CD3K's sound ?


Pretty damn nice!
Soundstage is extremely amazing, and so is the resolution.
Bass could be a bit more, maybe something better (tube?) amplification would take care of.
Would one day like to compare them to the successor sa5000 and to some properly amped senns...
Btw, the cable of the cd3k also looks nice


Posted by wrzonance on Aug-20-2005 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by shattered~soul
ut I guess this is something that comes down to personal taste anyways


Very true indeed.

Not saying I like the 700s all that much either. They're uncomfortable, and the pads die faster. Bleck!



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