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Posted by Jigsaw on Aug-18-2005 00:29:

30 Minute Session (Best ever trance tracks?)

I've managed to get out of this dj night. But the owner still want's me todo a set for 30 minutes. He want's to see how the crowd react to a 30 minute trance segment done by myself.

I am going to create the mix in Acid 5 and then play some synth lines live for my own tracks.

What is the top 10 vocal/melodic trance tracks of all time to fit into this set? What works well?

Both my own productions are in Dm & Am. I want to open the set with a euphoric start and a huge synth breakdown. I considered the radio cut of Above & Beyond - What it feels like for a girl.

Any advice on what would keep the mood flowing in similar vocal style after this. I will do all the beat matching and mixing within acid so their is no fear of anything going wrong live.

I'm thinking tracks like...

Above & Beyond, York, Armin, Paul Van Dyke, Oakenfold, etc..

Touching on commercial but still melodic and uplifting.

Looking for progress, epic, melodic/vocal trance tracks to insert into this mix.

If anyone has a good list of maybe 5/10 uplifting trance tracks that are tried and tested, please post them. I'm keen to get to work constructing this mix!


Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-18-2005 02:38:

What I would do is play a few vocal tracks and instrumental tracks.

- Oceanlab tracks would be perfect after that one, such as Clear Blue Water, Sky Falls Down, Satellite (Beautiful Together is alright, not the best in my opinion, but definetly any of those are).
Any remixes of these tracks would be great too, like infamous Ferry Corsten Remix of Clear Blue Water, or Armin Van Buuren Remix of Sky Falls Down.

- Thrillseekers, like Syaesthesia, either the Thrillseekers Club Mix, En Motion Remix, Ferry Corsten or Paul Van Dyk Remix (the PvD Remix is unbelievable, full of energy). The crowd may even go for Dreaming Of You, definitely a track chicks would dig, kind of early morning chill trance, but still energetic, almost a dance pop track more than a trance track.

- Paul van Dyk, such as Tell Me Why (The Riddle) or Together We Will Conquer (for vocal), For An Angel, Another Way or Connected (Moto Mix) for an instrumental track.

- Armin Van Buuren, like Blue Fear, Communication, Burned With Desire (Rising Star Mix or Ronski Speed Dub/Remix), or Yet Another Day, or even his latest called Shivers, although I'm personally not a fan of it.

- Ferry Corsten or System F, like Out Of The Blue, Cry, Solstice, Exhale etc.

- Old Tiesto, like Lethal Industry, Obsession, Flight 643, In My Memory etc.

- Lustral, such as Everytime, especially the Mike Koglin or Nalin & Kane Remix, also check out the new track called Solace, with some really nice remixes, like the Benz & MD Aurium Remix or the
Vorontsov & Dorohov Remix.

- Xpander by Sasha, a definite classic, or Heaven Scent by Bedrock.

- Greece 2000 by Three Drives On A Vinyl, another classic trance track from 99.

- Last but not least...Solar Stone. Seven Cities is definitely one of the best all time tracks, and so is Solarcoaster as well.

Just check out some of these artists/songs and see which ones you like. You may already have them in your collection, but a lot of them are a must.


Posted by RJT on Aug-18-2005 02:46:

You said York, so I say:

York - On The Beach


Posted by physe on Aug-18-2005 03:02:

Open the set with a euphoric start and a huge synth breakdown.

How about: Aria - Dido (Armin van Buuren's Universal Religion Mix)

A similar track that is good for an ending could be:

Perpetuous Dreamer - The Sound Of Goodbye (Armin van Buuren's Rising Star Mix)


Another one you might want to conside somewhere in the middle:

Saltwater - The Legacy (Alphazone Mix)


Posted by warmregards on Aug-18-2005 08:25:

Anything popular from the golden days will do.

Space Manoeuvers - Stage One (Tilt's Apollo 11 Mix)
Grace - Not Over Yet (Breeder Mix)
PvD - Forbidden Fruit / Another Way
Nalin and Kane - Open Your Eyes
Natious - Amber (Lightning Mix)
Tastefully chosen ATB tracks
Blank and Jones - Cream
etc...

Tracks like these @ 140+ bpm

30 minutes isnt a very long time though...only around 4-5 tracks. You shouldn't have a problem. Stay away from cheese at all costs.


Posted by Nikolas Vaughn on Aug-18-2005 10:37:

Ok... you want a huge synth to start with..

No way you can go past Viframa - Cristalle

its the ultimate opening track... if u havent heard it u must try find it somewhere.. its gold


Posted by Basstard on Aug-18-2005 10:57:

Re: 30 Minute Session (Best ever trance tracks?)

quote:
Originally posted by Jigsaw

I'm thinking tracks like...

Above & Beyond, York, Armin, Paul Van Dyke, Oakenfold, etc..





Number 1 pet peeve - ITS PAUL VAN DYK!!!!!!!


Posted by Jigsaw on Aug-18-2005 13:25:

thanks for the excellent replys. Nice to have some support here.

I visited that said club last night (wednesday night is now the 'new' DJ night for the next month or so). I checked out some of the other local talent and alot of complex, deep mixing was being performed using CD decks + Vinyl.

I myself will be using either traktor or live 5 (laptop + controller). I might also prepare some part's of the mix before hand in Acid.

Their were 4/6 DJ's starting from 9pm onwards. They were playing either the following genres of music:

Deep House
Funky House
Disco House
Commercial (nu disco) house


Alot of commercial tracks remixed and dubbed live. I am not sure if my style of trance (or any trance) is too much of a big change for this place? I was considering going down the same root and playing the likes of Mylo instrumental mixed with Yazoo - Dont Go acapella, keeping a funky, danceable vibe going. Not sure if the trance will cut it well? I guess well choosen trance will work well.

On a friday/sat night this club hold's around 1500/2000, but last night their was only about 100/120 people their. Not many people were actually dancing! I am on next wednesday night (might be thursday now though) so i am guessing it's not too much of a knock-out if thing's go bad, plus it's only a small number of people their.

With that said, it is being judged as they are looking for a new friday night DJ. I wouldn't mind getting this spot so i could test that week's productions live at this venue.

I've produced five house style remixes to date so i would be comfortable playing either style. My passion is in composing and producing trance (melodic, epic, progressive). Like i've said previous, i'm new to the whole dj/mixing thing, so picking good tracks is essential.

If anyone has an idea for a complete playlist, please feel free to post.

@Spirit5

We seem to have similar taste in music. Got any idea's for a playlist yourself mate?


Posted by thesuperfunk on Aug-18-2005 14:39:

quote:
He want's to see how the crowd react to a 30 minute trance segment done by myself.


Coming on here and asking everyone what to play is hardly 'doing it yourself' is it?

TBH you don't sound like you're ready to play a club.


Posted by DJ_Ampz on Aug-18-2005 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Jigsaw
I myself will be using either traktor or live 5 (laptop + controller). I might also prepare some part's of the mix before hand in Acid.


Not trying to put you down (im sure you expected a post like this), but if your "DJing" with pre-mixed sets on acid, i wouldn't call yourself a DJ but more a Music Selector. (I got this when i started too so i worked my ass of and have learned to spin the old school way). If your doing a live bit using something like ableton....well its a little different but yeah still kinda the same.

My suggestion, if its going to be like a normal set, and you producer, put some extra effort into it, layer your own beats into the set that way it atleast looks like your being new and creative, rather then letting a computer do "the work" for you

Again, this is how i started, not trying to rip into you or anything else. Just giving you the run-down

Ampz


Posted by warmregards on Aug-18-2005 17:24:

Although I wouldn't be caught dead premixing my sets in Acid, don't let a DJ put you down for doing it. This community direly needs to get rid of its stank-ass elitist trance DJ attitude. I hope your set goes well -- play hard and play what you want, that way if the crowd digs you it really means theyre diggin you. Good luck.


Posted by adx on Aug-18-2005 17:26:

I have many suggestions.

Deep melodic:

Endre - I Kill For You // Kallocain
Gouryella - Walhalla
Kayestone - Atmospheres
Mark Otten - Mushroom Therapy (AvB remix)
Signum - Timelord
Solid Globe - Sahara (AvB Remix)
Viton & Stel - Wooden Swordz (Original)
Gabriel & Dresden - Arcadia
Meia Lua - Tremor (Steve Gibbs remix)
Shane - C'est Muzique (AvB remix)

Vocal:

Miro - By Your Side (Dick Van Koch Remix)
Jase From Outta Space - Do What You Want (Max graham 3rd street remix)
Accadia - Blind Visions (Yahel Vocal Remix)
Billie Ray Martin - Honey (Chicane Club Mix)
BT - Force Of Gravity
Jan Johnson - Flesh 2002 (Tiesto Remix)
Deepsky - Talk Like A Stranger (multiple remixes)
Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (AvB Universal Religion Remix)
Paul Oakenfold - Hypnotised
Oxygen - Am I On Your Mind (always keeps the ladies happy)

Just some of the tracks I usually play when I have gigs at my house.


Posted by warmregards on Aug-18-2005 17:51:

Almost forgot - Svenson and Gielen feat. Jan Johnston - Beachbreeze


Posted by Jigsaw on Aug-18-2005 21:20:

I was aware i might get a negative reaction. I know i am not ready for a club as a normal DJ, but i would be ready if i were to play my own work out live on synths. I am by far more a technical producer than anything else.

With that said, it might be a good chance for me, but i'm seriously considering giving it a miss. I'm feel like i'm not confident enough todo this kind of thing.

Having done my own remixes and even some dubs recently, while i would only be "selecting tracks" they would be tracks i've spent a great deal of time producing or remixing (sequencing/dubbing).

So while i am in essence a music selector, picking good tracks is still difficult.

Any advice is good advice


Posted by Zack Roth on Aug-18-2005 22:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Jigsaw
Their were 4/6 DJ's starting from 9pm onwards. They were playing either the following genres of music:

Deep House
Funky House
Disco House
Commercial (nu disco) house


if thats what is normally played there on that night, throwing on pre-mixed epic trance may not go over well.

It sounds like you bit off more than you can chew at this point. Personally, I would pass on the night and have a go at it when you actually know how to dj and are comfortable with it. Pretending to mix while a pre recorded mix plays out iskind of offensive to the rest of the djs playing the night, the guy who booked you and the people who show up. You actually sound like your head is in the right place....you don't sound like some douche and you recognize your predicament which is good. I think you just bit off a little more than you can chew. Good luck though, however you decide to go about it.


Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-18-2005 23:57:

quote:
[i][b] @Spirit5

We seem to have similar taste in music. Got any idea's for a playlist yourself mate?


Sure, haven't mixed these tracks together to see how it goes, dunno if all of these tracks can be played in a 30 minute time frame but here's a shot at it.

1. Madonna - What It Feels Like For A Girl (Above & Beyond Edit)
2. Oceanlab - Satellite (Original Above & Beyond Mix)
3. Paul van Dyk - Another Way (Original Club Mix)
4. Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia (Paul van Dyk Remix)
5. Armin Van Buuren - Blue Fear 2003 (Original Mix)
6. Three Drives On A Vinyl - Greece 2000 (Original Mix)
7. Solar Stone - Seven Cities (Atlantis Mix)


Posted by Chris Allen on Aug-19-2005 18:58:

Essential Selection on Radio 1.

"Who's got the power? Pete Tong's got the power!"

"The Essential Selection Live on Radio 1, Paul van Dyk on the turntables...wuuheyyyyy! ... "

Paul van Dyk - Essential Hotmix Live at Cafe Mambo 1999

Best 25 minutes recorded.


Posted by saryn on Aug-20-2005 20:02:

honestly, and i do not mean to sound harsh, but it seems like maybe you should look at the tracks more before you play out.
TA is a great place for techical advice (mixing, gear etc) but when it comes to how you spin, that is something you need to decide. otherwise you arent really you for that time. by taking track suggestions from others you are spinning what others want you to. that isnt your job as the DJ. you arent you. feel free to ask about general styles that would work. but ultimatly you should really examine your tracks and determine what is the best course of tracks to follow.
hope the mix goes well and if it is recorder, post it up here if you can.


Posted by aralemomdadok on Aug-22-2005 21:56:

Let's try these:

vocals:
Tiesto feat. Kirsty Hawkshaw-- Just be (antilla mix)
PvD-- the other side
Filo & Peri-- Closer now (whiteroom remix)
Delirium-- silence (Above and Beyond remix, filterheadz remix)
Iio-- rapture (AvB mix is good, riva mix is also good)
Tiesto feat. BT-- Love comes again (Mark Norman remix)

some non-vocal tracks in between:
Oliver Prime-- Mind games
Randy Katanas-- In silence (trixarro remix)
SnB-- absolute red
AvB-- blue fear
Stardust-- Taurus

These should not be bad choices. As much as some of these tracks are overplayed (Silence for example), they work. 30 min is not much time, so try not to change the mood too much.


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Aug-22-2005 22:51:

Any mainstream-sounding track wih lotsa vocals will do.


I can't emphasize enough on vocals. And I mean lots of vocals, people love them. Also, please stay away from any deep type of prog. Unless you want them to fall asleep.


Posted by 2rip on Aug-24-2005 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by warmregards
Although I wouldn't be caught dead premixing my sets in Acid, don't let a DJ put you down for doing it. This community direly needs to get rid of its stank-ass elitist trance DJ attitude. I hope your set goes well -- play hard and play what you want, that way if the crowd digs you it really means theyre diggin you. Good luck.


i also noticed that these elitist dj's play some really pussy ass shit. the tracklistings i've read are enough to make my vagina bleed.


Posted by Basstard on Aug-24-2005 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by 2rip
i also noticed that these elitist dj's play some really pussy ass shit. the tracklistings i've read are enough to make my vagina bleed.




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