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Posted by wwu.punisher on Aug-18-2005 04:23:

Leonardo Da Vinci was smarter than Albert Einstein.

I've been reading up on Da Vinci a lot lately because I've been making my way through Dan Brown's books. (Angels and Demons, The Da Vinci Code, etc.) I have come to the conclusion that Leonardo Da Vinci is likely the most intelligent human being that has ever lived. If you get the chance, check out his estimates about our solar system. His deductions are on par with what NASA has discovered using the most advanced telescopic technology available... and Da Vinci did it in the 1600s.


Posted by apostrophe on Aug-18-2005 04:26:

Absolutely. When I read Brown's books, I did the same thing, looking into all the amazing stuff that Da Vinci was involved in. It's crazy in how many fields he "dabbled" in.

One smart mengg.


Posted by flavdave on Aug-18-2005 04:28:

I wouldn't be so bold to say he was smarter than Einstein. Da Vinci was definitly the epitome of a Renaissance Man, but I think you can't fairly compare the achievements of him and Einstein and say one is smarter than the other.


Posted by wwu.punisher on Aug-18-2005 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
I wouldn't be so bold to say he was smarter than Einstein. Da Vinci was definitly the epitome of a Renaissance Man, but I think you can't fairly compare the achievements of him and Einstein and say one is smarter than the other.


I guess I would argue that Da Vinci is "smarter" than Einstein in that Da Vinci was a pioneer whereas Einstein was more a "developer" of sorts. I don't mean to downplay Einstein's genius in any way, mind you. Rather, I am simply amazed by the things that Da Vinci was able to explain when there was no other explanation... aside from what the Catholics were telling people.


Posted by occrider on Aug-18-2005 04:31:

Don't be too enamored of Dan Brown's books. Many of his innuendos about Da Vinci, and in particlular many of the claims of the Davinci Code have been proven to be historically inaccurate or blatant falsehoods. Not to dismiss the fact that Da Vinci was an intellectual legend.


Posted by apostrophe on Aug-18-2005 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Don't be too enamored of Dan Brown's books. Many of his innuendos about Da Vinci, and in particlular many of the claims of the Davinci Code have been proven to be historically inaccurate or blatant falsehoods. Not to dismiss the fact that Da Vinci was an intellectual legend.


Yep, when I read the books, I was aware of the inaccuracies Dan Brown posed, but that made me want to actually find out what was historically accurate...and what he thunk up? pretty genious/intersting.


Posted by RJT on Aug-18-2005 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Don't be too enamored of Dan Brown's books. Many of his innuendos about Da Vinci, and in particlular many of the claims of the Davinci Code have been proven to be historically inaccurate or blatant falsehoods. Not to dismiss the fact that Da Vinci was an intellectual legend.


Indeed.

If anything, Dan Brown's books have provided me with some very entertaining stories, but they're just that; stories.

DaVinci, the man himself, and his accomplishments certainly deserve to be remembered as far more than the framework for two works of 20th/21st century fiction...


Posted by Orbax on Aug-18-2005 05:35:

Newton wins


Posted by trunks1022 on Aug-18-2005 06:59:

that's why dan brown writes in the beginning of the book that only a few things in his story are factual... such speculation read the damn "facts" before the first page!


Posted by DJ_Druid on Aug-18-2005 07:14:

Fair comparison.

Einstiens inventions and theory's all proven the the point of common knowledge (basically)

Da Vinci.....The list of things he still has people stumped on is longer than I personally could fathom and even the spiritual dogma connected to him puts Da Vinci far higher in the respect ladder than Einstien.


Posted by occrider on Aug-18-2005 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Druid
Fair comparison.

Einstiens inventions and theory's all proven the the point of common knowledge (basically)

Da Vinci.....The list of things he still has people stumped on is longer than I personally could fathom and even the spiritual dogma connected to him puts Da Vinci far higher in the respect ladder than Einstien.


Huh? What?? What theoretical physics is he still stumping people with? He puts Einstein to shame? By all means please elaborate ...


Posted by Aiwendil on Aug-18-2005 07:37:

Well i'm smarter than Leonardo Da Vinci and Albert Einstein put together! How do you like that?!


Posted by DJ_Druid on Aug-18-2005 07:37:

physicas and the sciences are all good and dandy but Da Vinci's theory's, poems blue-prints and such still have people baffled. His predictions of astrology and the cleverness in his puzzles still entertain and encourage debate today. Where as Einstein....E=MC2...Everybody who has watched Animaniacs knows that. Where as Da Vinci...as tweeked as he was, still has so much mystery shrouded around him that you can't exactly discredit his brilliance...or he was just mad...*shrug* Insanity even brings out some amazing feats of knowledge that has shed light on everything from philossophy to the sciences.


Posted by cviper on Aug-18-2005 08:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Druid
physicas and the sciences are all good and dandy but Da Vinci's theory's, poems blue-prints and such still have people baffled. His predictions of astrology and the cleverness in his puzzles still entertain and encourage debate today. Where as Einstein....E=MC2...Everybody who has watched Animaniacs knows that. Where as Da Vinci...as tweeked as he was, still has so much mystery shrouded around him that you can't exactly discredit his brilliance...or he was just mad...*shrug* Insanity even brings out some amazing feats of knowledge that has shed light on everything from philossophy to the sciences.


Well, there's a lot more to Einstein than just E=mc^2: the whole concept of relativity (both special and general), 4D/Minkowski-space-time, ...


Posted by DJ_Druid on Aug-18-2005 08:44:

I was using the E=MC2 thing as a base reference. I'm at work right now and bored out of my head and just thought I'd add my bits. Anyway, I still stand by my opinion that Da Vinci was the more intelligent of the two...Nope no facts to back it up but I've done my bit of reading.


Posted by Cloudburst on Aug-18-2005 10:11:

I've read and seen shows of Da Vinci's life and he's one smart fella alright. I prefer not to dabble on who's smarter since that's not fully measureable imo.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Aug-18-2005 12:09:

Re: Leonardo Da Vinci was smarter than Albert Einstein.

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Dan Brown's books.


ok stop right there.

keep in mind Dan Brown writes fiction.

and you can't compare the two. different fields of science.

no question that both were geniuses.


Posted by Ygrene on Aug-18-2005 13:26:

Re: Re: Leonardo Da Vinci was smarter than Albert Einstein.

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
ok stop right there.

keep in mind Dan Brown writes fiction.

and you can't compare the two. different fields of science.

no question that both were geniuses.


I don't think he's basing his observation off of just the Dan Brown books though. I think he's saying that the books got him interested in Da Vinci and that pushed him to research the man, and of course that uncovered all of his amazing achievements.

In either case, it's amazing what a highly intelligent individual can achieve. What would really be something is to have been a fly-on-the-wall, or fly-in-the-brain so to speak, and follow the thought process of these guys; Just to get an idea about what drove them and how their logic led them from one step to the next.


Posted by Dupz on Aug-18-2005 13:27:

hmmmm.. i'm gonna have to put my money on Da Vinci. His work just seemed more revolutionary and ahead of his time. I mean, it's easier to be a genius in todays society (with so many other geniuses to feed off) while back in the day there werent too many intellectuals around.

Plus, I think a lot of the ancient Greek mathematicians and philosophers were on par or even smarter than DaVinci and Einstein. I'm talking about guys like Archimedes, Aristotle, Pythagoras etc

none the less.. the shit all these guys have done in their lives is fukn amazing. I only wish I could be a quarter as smart as these guys.


Posted by Nabistai on Aug-18-2005 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Dupz
Plus, I think a lot of the ancient Greek mathematicians and philosophers were on par or even smarter than DaVinci and Einstein. I'm talking about guys like Archimedes, Aristotle, Pythagoras etc


I completely agree. If the Greek Empire hadn't fallen, our society would probably be way more advanced by now. Those dudes were so far ahead in science etc.


Posted by Pjotr G on Aug-18-2005 13:51:

Einstein's moustache was bigger than Da Vinci's. Therefore, he wins.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Aug-18-2005 13:59:

No the smartest person who has ever lived is Stephan Hawking. That guy talks with a compputer.


Posted by bananas on Aug-18-2005 14:59:

maybe he was the most intelligent.
but about the book
* > The Da Vinci Code
that book is so pop.


Posted by Dupz on Aug-18-2005 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Nabistai
I completely agree. If the Greek Empire hadn't fallen, our society would probably be way more advanced by now. Those dudes were so far ahead in science etc.


It wasnt the fault of the greek empire collapsing that's held us back all these centuries.. It's actually a very simple reason why we're only now catching up to the intellect of these men now.

IF the Great Library of Alexandria hadnt of been destroyed we would have had the industrial revolution 2000 years ago. It was just a matter of the knowledge dieing with the Library.. there was just no way for the knowledge to be effectively past down through the generations. Oh, and we can also blame the Catholic Church for holding back knowledge of the geniuses from the middle ages (ie. Galileo)


Posted by occrider on Aug-18-2005 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Druid
physicas and the sciences are all good and dandy but Da Vinci's theory's, poems blue-prints and such still have people baffled. His predictions of astrology and the cleverness in his puzzles still entertain and encourage debate today. Where as Einstein....E=MC2...Everybody who has watched Animaniacs knows that. Where as Da Vinci...as tweeked as he was, still has so much mystery shrouded around him that you can't exactly discredit his brilliance...or he was just mad...*shrug* Insanity even brings out some amazing feats of knowledge that has shed light on everything from philossophy to the sciences.


I'm still waiting for specifics ...


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