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Posted by FuzzyChicken on Aug-18-2005 10:30:

CDJ 200/800 combo setup???

I�m looking to buy my first setup, going with CDJs off the bat instead of vinyl. I�m thinking about getting 1x CDJ200 and 1x CDJ800 since I am interested in learning to scratch a little and mix a little hip hop now and then. Is it worth learning to scratch and do this combination of CDJs or should I just stick with 2x CDJ200s and stick to trance/house/prog type of music.

What kind of mixer do you guys recommend/suggest besides the 707.

Some reassurance and direction would be helpful as DJing is a large investment. I am looking for a setup that is good enough quality, and will give room for improvement, while getting the most for your money. Thank you for your input and suggestions.

-CDJ 200 ($400)
-CDJ 800 ($600)
-DJM 707 ($280) or similar style
-HDJ 1000 ($150) or similar style

Posted by warmregards on Aug-18-2005 17:53:

I got 2 cdj200s, a djm707, and a coffin case from road ready for $1000 off ebay, and finished it off with hdj1000's. No regrets at all. Spent less money than anyone I know with a comparable setup.

Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-19-2005 06:09:

Re: CDJ 200/800 combo setup???

Posted by FuzzyChicken on Aug-19-2005 07:00:

For the CDJ 200 its:
"0.02% units (within a +/- 6% range)"

For the CDJ 800 its:
"with a 0.05% increment digital display (within a �10% range)"

Will this difference in pitch increments be a problem? What other concerns should I be looking for, since they are not two of the same CDJs (meaning some variations in features).

Posted by PhaseFour on Aug-19-2005 21:38:

well i dont think the pitch increment would matter too much unless you can *perfectly* mix..unless you're sasha/digweed/zabs etc.

and ur not

but i dont think itll be too hard to correct any sort of pitch error...i would suspect that u would only need to turn the platter a couple of degrees unless ur trying to do some insane 3 min transition.

Posted by spdandpwr on Aug-19-2005 22:28:

First off, i would say that there shouldn't be any problems with that set-up since A your not gonna scratch with both hands (usually you are proficient with one or the other hand and not both) so it's a waste to buy to cdj-800s but then again you only save 200 bucks so i say just wait however long it takes to get two cdj's. Itll be easier too because if you wanna do tricks like doubling or chasing then you need identical sources because itll be way easier if the pitch changed. Also most of us here are from bay area...i say we should organize some sort of party here.

btw warmregards do you go to UConn

Posted by FuzzyChicken on Aug-19-2005 22:38:

Thanx for the input. That would be cool to throw a part for Bay Area TAs. It would be nice to have a place where I could test out the different CDJs and mixers and what not before I buy, and get TA opinions.

Posted by spdandpwr on Aug-19-2005 22:52:

if you live in frisco or can commute there then i would reccommend you test this stuff out at the dj stores here. San francisco is the best place for dj's of all types because there are countless record stores and theres like five places that sell dj equipment. Not to mention there are lots of members on these forums that are in the area too. If you want the namesof the stores then ill post them

Posted by FuzzyChicken on Aug-20-2005 00:00:

Yeah, I live about 1 hour away from SF, in fact Im going there next weekend. What are some good stores there? All I know is House of Stero, Frequency 8 records, amobea records (I dunno if they sell DJ stuff).

Posted by Boomer187 on Aug-20-2005 00:33:

ur gonna hate going back and forth between teh platters. They are way different.

why not just save an extra $200 and get two 800's?

Posted by spdandpwr on Aug-20-2005 02:35:

next weekend ill be down there but here are some store

Groove Merchant 687 Haight St. (415.252.5766)

jazz, acid jazz and funk/vinyl only
? turntables for customers
medium size, full stock

Open Mind Music 342 Divisidero (415.621.2244)

alternative with good mixed format dance/vinyl, tapes and cds
large store, new and used stock

Soundworks 228 Valencia near 15th St. (tel: 415.487.3980 fax: 415.487.1972 email: [email protected])

underground dance/vinyl and cds
4 turntables for customers
large size, full stock

Tweekin Records 593 Haight St. (lower) near Pierce (easy to miss) (tel: 415.626.6995 fax: 415.626.5206)

underground dance/vinyl and cds
2 turntables for customers
small basement store, full stock

This link has more info:
http://www.sfbg.com/38/27/cover_sup...ord_stores.html

Posted by spdandpwr on Aug-20-2005 02:37:

btw i visited all the ones on haight street and they are all very good with knowledgable (sp) staff. Ameoba only sell hip hop vinyl and other classics but not house and dance.

Posted by limin_li on Aug-20-2005 02:37:

talk to Justin @ AGIPRODJ.com. He give you a good discount if buy two CDJ-200 or CDJ-800 with mixer.

Posted by spdandpwr on Aug-20-2005 02:46:

dude sorry i read your post and saw the names of the store you mentioned and thought you were looking for records. DJ stores in san fran are, that sell official pioneer products:

Guitar Center

Leo's Pro Audio

World of Stereo (kind of sketchy cause its next to the strip clubs and the owners don't know much about their product but it is an official store and you can barter prices i got hp-700 headphones and two stanton turntables(str8-80's) with trackmaster 2 cartridges for 500 dollars).

Tandem Financial Inc. (according to pioneer official website)

Posted by bent on Aug-20-2005 02:58:

I spose for learning to mix from scratch it would be easier having the same, but in the long run, having two different style platters might be advantageous, since he'll learn to use two types of cd decks, and won't get too used to one type.

Posted by harriz on Aug-20-2005 05:29:

Re: CDJ 200/800 combo setup???

Posted by harriz on Aug-20-2005 05:52:

Re: CDJ 200/800 combo setup???

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyChicken
I�m looking to buy my first setup, going with CDJs off the bat instead of vinyl. I�m thinking about getting 1x CDJ200 and 1x CDJ800 since I am interested in learning to scratch a little and mix a little hip hop now and then. Is it worth learning to scratch and do this combination of CDJs or should I just stick with 2x CDJ200s and stick to trance/house/prog type of music.

What kind of mixer do you guys recommend/suggest besides the 707.

Some reassurance and direction would be helpful as DJing is a large investment. I am looking for a setup that is good enough quality, and will give room for improvement, while getting the most for your money. Thank you for your input and suggestions.

-CDJ 200 ($400)
-CDJ 800 ($600)
-DJM 707 ($280) or similar style
-HDJ 1000 ($150) or similar style

Heres a setup for your budget.
2 cdj200 for 750$ new ebay
(incredible pitch resolution, supports mp3
you wont even feel like you have to upgrade.

1 numark digital mixer.99-140$ new
(massive 110 signal to noise ratio ,Its only 48.000 not 96.000
but since you are focused on cds, cds go up to 48.000
good starter mixer in my opinion.
Or the analog 3 chanel stanton 401(massive 110 signal to noise ratio /different crossfader curves/
effects send return/kills for 140$ (It use to list 350-400 but the new line came out)

One used technics sl-1200 mk2 with stanton 500 cartridge
(250-280) on ebay.
Access to vinyl,This is still the industry standard.

You dont need the top of the line hd1000 headphones unless you will be playing out
and if you are get the seinnheiser they are better at loud volumes.
But for your bedroom a 50-60 $ full range pair will do just fine.

Hope this helps.

Posted by FuzzyChicken on Aug-20-2005 06:24:

Thanx for the replies guys, I really appreciate it. I will check out the 200s and 800s when I go to SF next weekend.

It seems close to a toss up. Since on one hand having 2x 800s will make it easier in the long run, in terms of functionality and scratching, and overall use. But the combo CDJs could work too, and save me money. I will have to check them out and think about it some more.

Posted by Spirit5 on Aug-20-2005 14:09:

I say get two CDJ 800s. The platter on the CDJ 200 is much different..really small, and it's set up is a little different than their digital vinyl decks like the 800/1000 MK2. If your going just CDJ, get the 800 or better yet save up like I did for the 1000 MK2. If your going to add some CD players to your set up, mostly spin vinyl and don't have the money for the top of the line ones, get the CDJ 200. Otherwise, it's better to save up for ones that are better so you don't have to (or want to) upgrade in the future.

Posted by harriz on Aug-20-2005 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
As some other people noted, get two CDJ 800s. The platter on the CDJ 200 is much different..really small, and it's set up is a little different than their digital vinyl decks like the 800/1000 MK2. If your going just CDJ, get the 800 or better yet save up like I did for the 1000 MK2. If your going to add some CD players to your set up, mostly spin vinyl and don't have the money for the top of the line ones, get the CDJ 200. Otherwise, it's better to save up for ones that are better so you don't have to (or want to) upgrade in the future.

The 200 is more acurate and you can actually get a mix with it
Id buy that insted of the 800.