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Posted by DreamTitan on Aug-20-2005 18:11:

I need your help.

At TranceCritic.com we're having trouble deciding on a reviewing scoring system. I need you guys to give me some insight to which you think is better. Its obvious that this community is larger then mine so their are more opinions here.

We are currnetly using the standard 5-star system.

I'm propusing a 1-10.0 system. More precise. My writers have concerns but some favor it while others are rallying against it.

Whats the take from the people at TA. This is something that I want to get figured out before we implement a new design for a review module. My view is that we are critic's and should look at music more indepth as compared to other sites. I'm also adding into the design a place for readers to vote for the review itself as aswell as the music under the knife(reviewed). I'm also considering have mutiple writers write on the same piece of music.

Input from you guys would be greatly appricated. Thanks.


Posted by TheDarkOne on Aug-20-2005 18:21:

Ye, definately have different point of views on the same piece. Good idea. As for the points, 10 would be much better (5 is too little, and 100 is too much). And lastly, don't have the typical anti-tiesto articles like many other critic groups have, in other words... always remain objective.


Posted by Linden Flowers on Aug-20-2005 18:30:

I suggest a -10 to 0 voting system.


Posted by WojiePoj on Aug-20-2005 18:39:

Behold, my arse.

use fractions


Posted by DreamTitan on Aug-20-2005 19:01:

Right.

Well sorry to tell you I am looking for either a 5-star OR a 1-10 system. I'm not looking for suggestions for anything new.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-20-2005 19:12:

Points are useless. It's the actual review that matters...


Posted by Linden Flowers on Aug-20-2005 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Points are useless. It's the actual review that matters...


God forgive me for actually agreeing with you, but, I agree with you. Rating art is lame.


Posted by UWM on Aug-20-2005 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Linden Flowers
God forgive me for actually agreeing with you, but, I agree with you. Rating art is lame.


I give this post a 7.5/10


Posted by DreamTitan on Aug-20-2005 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Linden Flowers
God forgive me for actually agreeing with you, but, I agree with you. Rating art is lame.


For us it's not about rating art. Its about seperating the good artists from the bad. It's about showing the good artists what the people like and dislike.


Posted by Coup on Aug-20-2005 19:24:

i always prefere marks out of 10 over marks out of 5.


Posted by Linden Flowers on Aug-20-2005 19:26:

Everbody has there own tastes. One person could totally love one artist, while another hates them. Rating systems are stupid.


Posted by noikeee on Aug-20-2005 19:27:

The 1-10 system makes people use too much high ratings. A shit track will be a 6. On the other hand in the 1-5 system people use the lower ratings more often. I prefer 1-5.


Posted by isoterra on Aug-20-2005 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Linden Flowers
Everbody has there own tastes. One person could totally love one artist, while another hates them. Rating systems are stupid.


the review would most likely state some kind of preference anyway.. it's only putting that in shorthand


and in a 0-5 system i'd only end up using halfs.. so would go for 10 just for simplicity myself


Posted by UWM on Aug-20-2005 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DreamTitan
Its about seperating the good artists from the bad.


No. A rating system based on numbers is entirely subjective, and does nothing to distinguish good artists from bad artists. For example, people who (somehow) enjoy music by Armin van Buuren would give him high marks, yet wouldn't rate many more credible productions very highly. Furthermore, I'd rate Armin van Buuren productions 1/10 because I find them shit.


Posted by bananas on Aug-20-2005 19:34:

well it depends from people on the site, there are some site's which I really trust, and they had never tricked me.
Well only one site.


Posted by DreamTitan on Aug-20-2005 19:35:

I agree with your marks. A writer would tend to be biased towards an artists they liked. But I can honestly say that for the most part, we are un-biased for the most part.

We have discussed a 1-10 system. Possibly by having 5 being average which would give us more freedom on rating. Also debated a 1-10 + .5

Its a topic that needs to be covered now before the site grows and it is harder to change what is already implemented.

Another thing that I mentioned was that I'd like double reviews from more then one writer, giving the reader a better look at the track.

Another thing would be to have sound clips which is a most deffinite.


Posted by isoterra on Aug-20-2005 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
No. A rating system based on numbers is entirely subjective, and does nothing to distinguish good artists from bad artists. For example, people who (somehow) enjoy music by Armin van Buuren would give him high marks, yet wouldn't rate many more credible productions very highly. Furthermore, I'd rate Armin van Buuren productions 1/10 because I find them shit.


this is why reviews normally get divided into genres, and have fans of the respective genre in charge of each one. since you aren't a fan of modern trance then your opinion wouldn't mean much to people reading the trance review pages, whereas the opinions of someone more into the music may be more likely to represent the common views of people reading that section


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-20-2005 20:37:

I think this should be made a bit more specific.

Our current system is 1/10. This appears as five stars, but you can have 2.5 stars (5/10)

What DreamTitan is suggesting is using a 1-100 system, where 0-10 also includes decimals (9.2 is 92 etc.)

I'll keep my personal opinion out of this thread, but I think that needed clarifying.


Posted by DreamTitan on Aug-21-2005 00:17:

I'm also thinking about possibly trying a 1-10 system with halfs. So a 8.5 is an option. However an 8.6 is not.

From this survey, the numbers don't like. While its only 40 or so votes it is still a large enough sample to begin to get an idea.

http://www.trancecritic.com/modules...order=0&thold=0



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