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Alphazone Style Kickdrum in Ableton Live?
I have read through alot of tutorials on this board but have not found what I am looking for.
Does anyone know how to achive kick drums found in Alphazone's Rock'in and Alphazone's Flashback? I try and try and fail every time.
PS. I have Vengeance Clubsounds Vol 1 for sample to use.
Clubsounds must have it. Your problem is probably compression and mixing rather than the sample itself.
Yep! I do! I've been in touch with Alphazone myself and got their little secret!
Alphazone Style Kicks here!
Is this the kind of thing you are looking for? These samples were programmed by myself!
Cheers Steve
OMFG!??? Do you have more of these kicks? You could really make a sample CD if you had time ;-)
Maybe I should! LOL! Leave it with me!
those are wicked kicks, how did you make those?
Tell me their little secret buddy 
I remember a zip file of kick drums BrenF posted, those sounded alot like Alphazone kicks.
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| Originally posted by retiro Yep! I do! I've been in touch with Alphazone myself and got their little secret! Alphazone Style Kicks here! Is this the kind of thing you are looking for? These samples were programmed by myself! Cheers Steve |
secrets anyone?
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| Originally posted by DJ Ambin secrets anyone? |
You fucking know it! ;-)
There's a post by L-Vee on trance.nu somewhere about making your own kickdrums, try looking that up. Quite useful I might add!
Hi guys! Sorry for the late reply! Been working away all week! I will have to explain later tonight because its a long and laborious method to do. Please be patient!
Cheers Steve
Thank you.
Nice work Steve, thanks for the samples!!
I'm looking forward to reading about the
technique you used in creating these kicks!
Hi guys!
I have finally found time to show you how I create those Alphazone style kicks.
When I e-mailed Alphazone @ Skynet they did reply but didn't really give me anything to work from. I have since persisted in finding my own method of programming them. Although they are not exact replica's I feel they are damn close.
I will guide you all through explaining each different step, rendering the sample so you can hear the progression/development of the sample to the end product. Please download this file, hopefully you can listen and follow (further links at the bottom).
Stage one: Shows a normal kick sample from my library (how I created this is another tutorial).
Stage two: Shows a snare sample that I will use in conjuction with the original kick sample to give it a higher frequency.
Stage three: Shows the snare and kick samples combined.
Stage four: At this point I have used an overdrive effect (blood overdrive in FL) on the channel.
Stage five: Shows a reverb effect on the channel, making sure you have set a predelay of about 175ms.
Stage six: Shows the sample being overdriven in an external wave editor (I used Nero Wave Editor).
Stage seven: Shows the sample being rendered with the original kick back at stage one. This is due to the punchiness being lost by using the above effects (works for me anyway).
Stage eight: Shows stage seven rendered sample overdriven (Blood Overdrive) again.
Stage nine: Shows a filter applied to the channel with the cutoff slightly closed to take away the really high 'tiss' sound.
Stage ten: Final eqing and editing. I tend not to compress the sample bacause this should be done in your mix.
The final result will differ if you use a different sample from the start. The effects can all be altered to suit to either make the kick harder or softer. These samples are purely shown for example purposes.
This method does seem long, laborious and may have its critics but it works for me and hopefully now for you!
I welcome any further question and if I can help I will be happy to do so.
Cheers Steve
Mirror One
Mirror Two
Sounds like a very nice tutorial, thanks alot for the effort buddy!!
To my experience (this isn't law of course), you can also 'pre-compress' your kick if you aren't planning on using much compression in your own mix. This way the kick will still sound thumpy, yet doesn't sit that compressed in your whole mix so it will not sound overcompressed as a whole. You can still use some minor compression to make the kick compete with the bassline, though not overpower it to make it punchy enough. Call it a 'disguised compression' 
Here's Steve's tutorial hosted if yousendit should expire:
Retiro Kickdrum Tutorial
Cheers,
Wim
Thanks Wim, much appreciated chap!
dam retiro
really didn't expect you to tell us seems as though there is some community spirit left in this forum
great post!
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| Originally posted by acell dam retiro really didn't expect you to tell us seems as though there is some community spirit left in this forum great post! |
anyone know where this tutorial is now?
The YSI link is down. Anyone want to repost please?
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| Originally posted by Lindo The YSI link is down. Anyone want to repost please? |
Nice sounding kick there. I'm not really a hardstyle person, but I like it from time to time.
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