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Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-24-2005 17:01:

Branching out Genre Wise.

Ive started listening to, buying, and spinning a lot more genres than before and while do understand there needs to be flow and progression in a good set, in fact i really like to build a set etc etc.. have started to experiment with using a lot more genres in my mixes than than sticking to one genre..

ive heard a lot of people saying this is a big no no and hate hearing it in clubs they just think poor programming and a lot of people syaing the opposite, that they like it and enjoy a bit of well mixed and programmed variety

im not talking trance and minimal house here folks, more like multiple genres of house..

bit of semi proggish electro with some minimal ish braks and if were really building or depending on energy, posibly even some lighter electro ish techno towards the ends..

thoughts? feelings?

Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-24-2005 17:07:

I do it all the time it seems. I usually spin trance, but then I'll do progressive trance, then spin progressive house, all the way to electro.

look at these tracklists

1. paola - above the candystore (3:17)
2. Digital Witchcraft - Fingerpaint (9:00)
3. Mark Otten - So Serene (9:41)
4. Stel & Good Newz - Little Soul (Original Mix) (6:13)
5. Hammer and Bennett - Language - Elevation edit MASTER (8:19)
6. Thomas Datt - Alone Inertia Remix (9:08)
7. VAST - Pretty When You Cry (3:50)
8. Rachael Starr - Till There Was You (Gabriel & Dresden 12 Step Program remix) (8:56)
9. Grayarea - Gravity (Grayarea's Albatross Remix) (10:56)
10. Progresia - Metropolitan Behaviour (Original Mix) (7:49)
11. Threshold Prod And Sonify - (A) No More Silence (Original (8:35)
12. Pole Folder - Night Driver (9:42)
13. Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 returning Mix) (9:01)
14. Deepsky Feat. Jes Brieden - Ghost (Original Mix) (8:57)
15. MV vs Styx - MV vs Styx - Mr. Roboto (8:02)
16. For Sale - Buy Now (original mix) (5:56)
17. Pole Folder - Salvation on Slavery Sins (Nick Muir remix) (8:28)

compared to:

1. Goldfrapp - Strict Machine (We Are Glitter Mix) (6:27)
2. Ozgur Can - Changed (Gabriel And Dresden Remix) (7:10)
3. Mark Norman - Mark Norman-T 34 (8:31)
4. Ernesto Vs Bastian - Dark Side Of The Moon (Dogzilla Pure Filth remix) (8:16)
5. Jan Loper - I Can't Stop B1 (Dynamic Sense remix)(7:55)
6. Rank 1 - After Me (Orginal Mix) (7:08)
7. Mark Norman - Phantom Manor (8:24)
8. Joop - The World (7:48)
9. Daniel B - Gods Keyboard (Original Mix) (7:21)
10. dj tiesto - goldrush (dj montana remix) (7:55)

That was two different mixes done in three days by me. Completely different but I loved them both

Posted by alligator on Aug-24-2005 17:12:

i think there are too many people that only want one type of music top be played....branching out and droping different types of trance, or house and mixing them in together is something i like to do...and i also like to see others do it...

of course the choice of tunes is very important you can't drop just about anything, but there are people out there that like to experiemnt and move outside of the trance stage and drop somep progressive, maybe some prog house after...and so forward...

one guy that comes to mind is timo...his sets are awesome

being able to do this (once you get better at it) shows roundness and imagination...and for sure it will put everything you know to the test including talent of transitions and selection of songs

thumbs up for the djs that experiment outside of one genre...

ps: nice track lists

Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-24-2005 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
1. paola - above the candystore (3:17)
2. Digital Witchcraft - Fingerpaint (9:00)
3. Mark Otten - So Serene (9:41)
4. Stel & Good Newz - Little Soul (Original Mix) (6:13)
5. Hammer and Bennett - Language - Elevation edit MASTER (8:19)
6. Thomas Datt - Alone Inertia Remix (9:08)
7. VAST - Pretty When You Cry (3:50)
8. Rachael Starr - Till There Was You (Gabriel & Dresden 12 Step Program remix) (8:56)
9. Grayarea - Gravity (Grayarea's Albatross Remix) (10:56)
10. Progresia - Metropolitan Behaviour (Original Mix) (7:49)
11. Threshold Prod And Sonify - (A) No More Silence (Original (8:35)
12. Pole Folder - Night Driver (9:42)
13. Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 returning Mix) (9:01)
14. Deepsky Feat. Jes Brieden - Ghost (Original Mix) (8:57)
15. MV vs Styx - MV vs Styx - Mr. Roboto (8:02)
16. For Sale - Buy Now (original mix) (5:56)
17. Pole Folder - Salvation on Slavery Sins (Nick Muir remix) (8:28)

looks like a set i want to listen to... haha.. i have a lot of those tracks in my box, but right now ive been mocing out of the trancier prog i guess. i cant define what i play at all, but a lot of those tunes make it into my sets.. here and there.... hmm.. haha good tunes there mate

heres mine.. soon to be recorded properly..

not final tracklist.. but pretty much.. still working out some of the kinks.. i like to perfect my in hosue recordings until I love them.

1. play paul - bounce (tekel remix)
2. System 7 - Planet 7 (James Holden mix)
3. Trentemoller - Polar shift
4. Phonique ft Erlend oye - For the time being (alexkids cold mix)
5. Jl Henney - Me and my moog (original mix)
6. gabriel ananda - suessholz (falko brocksieper remix)
7. Filur - you and i (moonbootica mix)
8. Infusion - Girls Can Be Cruel (Vinil El Greco Rmx)
9. Sucker DJs - Le Bon (Original Mix)
10. Inkfish Vs. David West - Aftermath (Original mix)
11. Prisoners of The Sound - Close 2 The Sky (Pots Club Mix)

all sorts of different shit in there..

Posted by Freak on Aug-24-2005 17:51:

As far as im concerned its all music.
I play on emotion and energy- I dont give a crap what genre it is pigenholed as.

Anyone listen to Erick Morillo@space for radio ones 10th yr in ibiza the other week? He dropped Lipps inc 'funky town' smack in the middle of the set- and the crowd were singing along to it when he dropped the fader. It worked so well too! He does the same with love sensation and various other things. Perfect example.

Think outside the box and ignore other peoples narrow mindedness- it may set you apart from the others and give you some sparkle if you do it right.
The way I see it is you can all be like sheep and copy one another, or you can try and push the envelope and do something unique and individual.

All my opinon of course- but each to their own.

Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-24-2005 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress

1. play paul - bounce (tekel remix)
2. System 7 - Planet 7 (James Holden mix)
3. Trentemoller - Polar shift
4. Phonique ft Erlend oye - For the time being (alexkids cold mix)
5. Jl Henney - Me and my moog (original mix)
6. gabriel ananda - suessholz (falko brocksieper remix)
7. Filur - you and i (moonbootica mix)
8. Infusion - Girls Can Be Cruel (Vinil El Greco Rmx)
9. Sucker DJs - Le Bon (Original Mix)
10. Inkfish Vs. David West - Aftermath (Original mix)
11. Prisoners of The Sound - Close 2 The Sky (Pots Club Mix)

all sorts of different shit in there..

if you get that recorded let me have a stab at hearing it.

Posted by djdk on Aug-24-2005 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
As far as im concerned its all music.
I play on emotion and energy- I dont give a crap what genre it is pigenholed as.

Anyone listen to Erick Morillo@space for radio ones 10th yr in ibiza the other week? He dropped Lipps inc 'funky town' smack in the middle of the set- and the crowd were singing along to it when he dropped the fader. It worked so well too! He does the same with love sensation and various other things. Perfect example.

Think outside the box and ignore other peoples narrow mindedness- it may set you apart from the others and give you some sparkle if you do it right.
The way I see it is you can all be like sheep and copy one another, or you can try and push the envelope and do something unique and individual.

All my opinon of course- but each to their own.

couldn't agree more

Posted by RJT on Aug-24-2005 20:50:

Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-25-2005 00:53:

Good replies guys..

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
if you get that recorded let me have a stab at hearing it.

for rizzle dizzle.. just give me til sundizzle.

Posted by mzvirbulis on Aug-25-2005 01:37:

yeah i cant stick to just trance in my sets, im always changing the tone of the set in a good way. last set i did had the sounds of
tastexperience - flower island ep remixes
markus schultz - clear blue?
relcluse - yellow moon remix
quadrant 4 - space manouvers remix
form and function - wonderland orig
invisible inc. - stars V Rogers Remix
remy and roland klinkenberg - fearless
Benjamin Bates - one by one
paul van dyk - columbia (pvd remix)
sasha - xpander
schiller - ruhe (Tom Middleton's Cosmos Remix)
cirez d - hoodpecker
Ryell & Corbin - Dyra Club Mix
tiesto & junkie xl - obsession full version.

although they are very trancy related!

Posted by Inertia on Aug-25-2005 02:01:

i go back and forth with tech house, electro, techno, acid, minimal and breaks almost every other track. mixing genres up is excellent when done right.

of course, if you are an idiot, as some DJs are, who are spinning really funky deep house and jump to schranz out of nowhere, well, it will sound like ass.

but whoever says mixing genres is a no-no needs to wake up.

Posted by alligator on Aug-25-2005 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by mzvirbulis

paul van dyk - columbia (pvd remix)

can you tell pvd is a perfectionist?

Posted by harriz on Aug-26-2005 07:38:

Re: Branching out Genre Wise.

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
Ive started listening to, buying, and spinning a lot more genres than before and while do understand there needs to be flow and progression in a good set, in fact i really like to build a set etc etc.. have started to experiment with using a lot more genres in my mixes than than sticking to one genre..

ive heard a lot of people saying this is a big no no and hate hearing it in clubs they just think poor programming and a lot of people syaing the opposite, that they like it and enjoy a bit of well mixed and programmed variety

im not talking trance and minimal house here folks, more like multiple genres of house..

bit of semi proggish electro with some minimal ish braks and if were really building or depending on energy, posibly even some lighter electro ish techno towards the ends..

thoughts? feelings?

Me is in a big mismatch of all kids of shit from all kinds of genres from all kinds
of eras.
I key my records to keep songs going together for minutes
so I am starting to feel like a mash up/bastard pop dj.
Acid house ,tech house , midnightees prog trance , deep house ,jungle,tribal techno,
dark prog house ,german minimal house , electroclash,
early rediculous rave music,
vocal radio stuff I used to spin ,
and somedays it is just great fun
In a 8hour set you can swift through all kinds of stuff

but in an hour its not gonna work .
Shit ...to be honest with you I sometimes wish I could stick to a
narrow spesific genre and be more productive.
I like people with the atittude ''this is my style''
''the labels that interest me''
''dj I look up to''
''producers I like''
''Clubs I dream to get a gig at''
The scene I want to be part at ....

People who have it all figured out
and are working towards
making this music ,getting involved with their scene,
wheather that is promoting ,producing ,djing..ect ..
I would advise people
to stick to certain sounds and develop a personal style ,
creative WITHIN a certain style of music ,
fuckin drow the line
and get productive....
altough I could be wrong lets see what other people
have to say
This is a cool thread btw...

Posted by DJ Sid on Aug-26-2005 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
I do it all the time it seems. I usually spin trance, but then I'll do progressive trance, then spin progressive house, all the way to electro.

look at these tracklists

1. paola - above the candystore (3:17)
2. Digital Witchcraft - Fingerpaint (9:00)
3. Mark Otten - So Serene (9:41)
4. Stel & Good Newz - Little Soul (Original Mix) (6:13)
5. Hammer and Bennett - Language - Elevation edit MASTER (8:19)
6. Thomas Datt - Alone Inertia Remix (9:08)
7. VAST - Pretty When You Cry (3:50)
8. Rachael Starr - Till There Was You (Gabriel & Dresden 12 Step Program remix) (8:56)
9. Grayarea - Gravity (Grayarea's Albatross Remix) (10:56)
10. Progresia - Metropolitan Behaviour (Original Mix) (7:49)
11. Threshold Prod And Sonify - (A) No More Silence (Original (8:35)
12. Pole Folder - Night Driver (9:42)
13. Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 returning Mix) (9:01)
14. Deepsky Feat. Jes Brieden - Ghost (Original Mix) (8:57)
15. MV vs Styx - MV vs Styx - Mr. Roboto (8:02)
16. For Sale - Buy Now (original mix) (5:56)
17. Pole Folder - Salvation on Slavery Sins (Nick Muir remix) (8:28)

compared to:

1. Goldfrapp - Strict Machine (We Are Glitter Mix) (6:27)
2. Ozgur Can - Changed (Gabriel And Dresden Remix) (7:10)
3. Mark Norman - Mark Norman-T 34 (8:31)
4. Ernesto Vs Bastian - Dark Side Of The Moon (Dogzilla Pure Filth remix) (8:16)
5. Jan Loper - I Can't Stop B1 (Dynamic Sense remix)(7:55)
6. Rank 1 - After Me (Orginal Mix) (7:08)
7. Mark Norman - Phantom Manor (8:24)
8. Joop - The World (7:48)
9. Daniel B - Gods Keyboard (Original Mix) (7:21)
10. dj tiesto - goldrush (dj montana remix) (7:55)

That was two different mixes done in three days by me. Completely different but I loved them both

where did you get this track?

Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-26-2005 12:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sid
where did you get this track?

Actually, believe it or not, it was shared briefly on TA by Dj Day_V and I took it quickly before it got shut down. The track is bangin'. Massive floorfiller.

Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-26-2005 16:15:

I only play tracks that Armin plays.