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Posted by Aryzing on Aug-26-2005 23:47:

Market Imposters

Ok, so a brand new generation of inmense troque TT are emerging, however are these really woth their reduced price? are they only using this as a propaganda to outrun the Technics, which i see both praised (for their many maket years and quality) and criticized for their apprent monopoly of price pumped TT; or are they really worth it and there is hardly any quality difference. I am new in this whole TT thing and would like to hear opinions of all those people who decided not to buy a Technics, since most technics owners are delighted with theirs...

Posted by Basstard on Aug-26-2005 23:58:

use the search button u fuckin tranceaddict in training!!

Posted by Cosmic Realm on Aug-27-2005 00:15:

you will find that a lot of people that bought other turntables then Technics on this forum.... and most of them break and they Buy Tech's and dont understand why they wasted they're money...

but all in all... use the search before you post something like this, your not the only one to wonder this

Posted by Psiweaver on Aug-27-2005 02:41:

I haven't heard of one person who's st 150's broke or very many who's ttx's did or anybody whos vestax's have.

Posted by TSI_AWD on Aug-27-2005 05:49:

Dude this is like asking which religion is the best

Gotta decide for yourself from all the available information (which is a lot if you search)

Posted by veezee on Aug-27-2005 06:39:

3 words -> wow and flutter. I say no more

Jay

Posted by Trance Nutter on Aug-27-2005 08:30:

quote:
Originally posted by veezee
3 words -> wow and flutter. I say no more

Jay

wow and flutter doesn't tell you how often it does it.
If it does it once every 100 minutes or something like that (ie, insanely stable), its not a porblem is it?
The guys at Skratchworx have American Audio HDT4.5 and Stanton 150 TTs reviews. Both easily played two identical vinyls for an entire side and never varied once in the 10 minutes it takes.

Posted by Zild on Aug-27-2005 12:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Psiweaver
I haven't heard of one person who's st 150's broke or very many who's ttx's did or anybody whos vestax's have.

Well I have. I haven't just heard of them though you see I actually know people who have had TTX1s for awhile until they broke and had to be replaced with SL1200s.

Posted by Nsonic on Aug-27-2005 15:40:

technics or stfu ?

Posted by sleepydragon on Aug-27-2005 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Realm
you will find that a lot of people that bought other turntables then Technics on this forum.... and most of them break and they Buy Tech's and dont understand why they wasted they're money...

i think ur talking rubbish there.
Plenty of people buy decks that arent technics and r really happy with them the basic fact is technics r a complete rip off. If ur never gonna play in a club whats the point in buying technics 90% of peoples that own decks wont ever get to play in a club so why not buy a better cheaper alternative deck to the technics.

Posted by Inertia on Aug-27-2005 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
i think ur talking rubbish there.
Plenty of people buy decks that arent technics and r really happy with them the basic fact is technics r a complete rip off. If ur never gonna play in a club whats the point in buying technics 90% of peoples that own decks wont ever get to play in a club so why not buy a better cheaper alternative deck to the technics.

so, if you don't play in a club, don't buy good gear and mix like shit? why buy Pioneer CDJ-100s or 200s, when you can have American Audio CDS-1s at a fractione of the price? they come with a great CUE delay feature, in which you press the pitch button and it takes it .4 seconds to start up, and now, with uberprecise +/-0.1% pitch increments, in ranges of +/-6%, +/-8% and +/-12%!!!

so what if you never play in a club? you should have good gear. if not, spinning just becomes a bitch. i learned on some Stanton STR8-80s. great pair to learn on, but after a year or so, they had shown their age and were becoming problematic. i'm not saying Techs are the only way, but most any other deck that can stand up to it is just as, if not more, expensive, so these 'cheaper alternative decks' aren't very... existent. the ones that are in fact, decent, and slightly under the Technics pricetag are beaten out completely by the Technics durability factor, where they still have to prove themselves against timeyou can save somewhere around $50US experimenting with a deck, or pay an extra $50 and get a completely sure thing. i'd rather invest once.

if you're not serious enough about spinning to buy decent stuff, you might as well just spin on your mates' stuff. that's what i've done till i can afford my own gear.

even if you don't wanna buy Techs because of the pricetag, you can get a 2nd hand pair for excellent price. you can buy 'em beat up, and fix them up. what you need is the motor to be in good shape, after that, you can change the pitch slider and all other stuff. in other words, you can buy a beat up one, make it back into the beauty it is, and might still get a better deal than the competing decks.

me? i spin CDs now... so i don't even know why i am here.

Posted by Cosmic Realm on Aug-27-2005 17:49:

Posted by Aryzing on Aug-27-2005 18:51:

thank you for all the feedback ive got so far, i kinda tried searching since i know its anoying for people to see the same, but i wasant convinced AND they are my first decks. And i can tell you that from the mixture of your opinions and my own ive finally bought the 150's. Just wanted to make sure everything was as perfect as it could be, sory to all those experts BSing bout me not searching.

Posted by sleepydragon on Aug-27-2005 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
so, if you don't play in a club, don't buy good gear and mix like shit?

u didnt read my post properly if u think i said that.
I basically said that theres better cheaper decks out there than technics the only people that will find it esential to own a pair of technics r djs that play out in clubs cose thats what every club has but that applies to very few people 90% of djs will never get to play in a club.
Most people only buy technics cose everyone else has got one and they think its cool they havent actually tried out all other decks for themselfs to make up there minds.

Posted by Inertia on Aug-27-2005 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
u didnt read my post properly if u think i said that.
I basically said that theres better cheaper decks out there than technics the only people that will find it esential to own a pair of technics r djs that play out in clubs cose thats what every club has but that applies to very few people 90% of djs will never get to play in a club.
Most people only buy technics cose everyone else has got one and they think its cool they havent actually tried out all other decks for themselfs to make up there minds.

name 3 better, and substantially cheaper decks. quote the prices, please.

Posted by Rhue on Aug-28-2005 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
use the search button u fuckin tranceaddict in training!!

^ I like this guy's attitude!

Bah... nothing beats the technics! It isn't about the functionality but reliability aswell, Techs are proven tanks and can last for a decade or more. However i am very impressed by the newer Numarks and Stanton tables, the price and the features is an excellent factor which motivate new enthusiasts into the djing scene.

In the end if you have the cash get the techs especially if you plan on spinning at clubs, they are the industry standard and have been since the late 80's

Posted by T-Soma on Aug-28-2005 08:32:

Is it just me or has this semmed to go far off topic.
I think the high torque is appealing to alot of DJs especialy the ones who dont know much because iv talked to plenty of guys who think that a deck is great coz of the torque and that they think it will hold its pitch much better because of it aswell. Hope thats a decent reply