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Posted by YuVaL on Dec-16-2001 01:37:

Beatmatching With TT'z

Okay.. from what i've seen deejays.. they find the cue spot SOMEHOW.. i need help with that also.. and then they just leave it there.. when the point on track a (the track that is playing) that they wanna mix in.. they scratch the vinyl a little and then just let it go.. can some please understand me in simple terms what they are doing so i can get a little knowledge?


Posted by goofsr on Dec-16-2001 01:55:

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Posted by Tony Morello on Dec-16-2001 02:21:

it's called backcueing

when beatmatching think 4/4

they find the first beat in the 4/4 count and set it there, when the first beat comes up on the track that is playing, you just let it go and go from there

4/4 is the key to seamless mixes


Posted by YuVaL on Dec-16-2001 12:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
it's called backcueing

when beatmatching think 4/4

they find the first beat in the 4/4 count and set it there, when the first beat comes up on the track that is playing, you just let it go and go from there

4/4 is the key to seamless mixes


thanks for clearing that up m8

i have another question..

isn't it hard to find the cue point on a vinyl?


Posted by djdawn on Dec-18-2001 12:04:

i would say it's easier than with a CD. You just listen to the vinyl and whenever you found the spot you want to start with, stop the record with your hand at that point, hit "start/stop" and leave it there.


Posted by YuVaL on Dec-18-2001 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by djdawn
i would say it's easier than with a CD. You just listen to the vinyl and whenever you found the spot you want to start with, stop the record with your hand at that point, hit "start/stop" and leave it there.


okie.. i press stop, and when i start moving the record again with my hand b4 i release it to beatmatch.. will it autostart?
or do i have to press start/stop again?


Posted by Pjotr G on Dec-18-2001 16:03:

You only push stop if you wanna get a drink or sumpin
then when you get back you hold the record back with your hand, push start again, and then you are at the cue-point.
In a set, I actually never let my tables stop....is it just me?


Posted by djdawn on Dec-18-2001 16:30:

i guess it's just you, or maybe you need longer to beatmatch..?
when I'm in a set and have the record matched and cued, there is usually a minute or 2 in which I want to look for the next record, talk to the chicks, or drink something/dance/whatever. In this time I stop the TT with the needle at the cuepoint.
I've seen many DJs do it just like this.


Posted by Intrinzic on Dec-18-2001 16:49:

Same thing here. If I cue up the next song and the playing song still has a while to go, I'll usually hit stop. When it's almost time to throw the cued record, I'll then hit start. I'll also backcue a couple of times to make sure it's still cued where it's supposed to be. It also helps me mentally "feel" the first beat.

I leave the turntables running when changing records though.

Whatever works for you.


Posted by Lost on Dec-18-2001 17:17:

i also stop my decks during a set if i got 'em cued. energy, you have to start the decks again before you dj. they do not autostart. and it's a good idea to start it up earlier than when you want to so you can make sure it's in the right spot.

lost


Posted by Pjotr G on Dec-18-2001 19:02:

I don't take long to beatmatch...think it usually takes me about 15-20 secs to get it synced. But when I have it synced I usually mix it in as soon as I can. If the playing songs has yet to come to a climix I fiddle around a bit with the crossfader...teasin between the two tracks...And when I have the whole transition done I scoop me up another record.


Posted by YuVaL on Dec-18-2001 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Lost
i also stop my decks during a set if i got 'em cued. energy, you have to start the decks again before you dj. they do not autostart. and it's a good idea to start it up earlier than when you want to so you can make sure it's in the right spot.

lost


i know that.. i didn't mean autostart when u play that first track..
cause the what the deejay did.. he just puted it on the cue point and then left it there...
and then he just touched the vinyl again and it continued


Posted by djdawn on Dec-19-2001 07:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Energy


i know that.. i didn't mean autostart when u play that first track..
cause the what the deejay did.. he just puted it on the cue point and then left it there...
and then he just touched the vinyl again and it continued

well he MUST have touched the start button, cause if he hadn't stopped the record at the cue point, it wouldn't be there after a second of leaving the record alone. So either he had his hand on the record the whole time, holding it in place, or he pressed start without you noticing, or he has the new magic Technics Mk 4 with autostart when you touch the vinyl....


Posted by YuVaL on Dec-19-2001 10:54:

quote:
Originally posted by djdawn

well he MUST have touched the start button, cause if he hadn't stopped the record at the cue point, it wouldn't be there after a second of leaving the record alone. So either he had his hand on the record the whole time, holding it in place, or he pressed start without you noticing, or he has the new magic Technics Mk 4 with autostart when you touch the vinyl....


hehe.. i dont think it was the mk4.. i think it was the mk2...

Thx all 4 your help.. maybe he pressed the stop button and i didn't notice...

but i have another question..
lets say he stopped.. and then pressed the start button.. should he just put his hands on the record so he can cue again.. or just press start and let the record go?.. so it will match the other record that is playing?


Posted by djdawn on Dec-19-2001 11:23:

you will need to put your hand on the record before you press start. Then you can move the record by hand and listen to it on your headphones to see if it is still in the right spot. Then you let it go in the right moment to match the other track.


Posted by YuVaL on Dec-19-2001 11:26:

quote:
Originally posted by djdawn
you will need to put your hand on the record before you press start. Then you can move the record by hand and listen to it on your headphones to see if it is still in the right spot. Then you let it go in the right moment to match the other track.


ohh...
when u play with the record with ur hand.. u scratch it back & fourth.. what does that do.. i mean i've seen all dj'z do that b4 they let the record go


Posted by patticus on Dec-19-2001 11:48:

its just scratching over the beat, so you get a better feel for when to let it go, and how much force to use



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