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Posted by MisterOpus1 on Aug-28-2005 18:18:

Serious Problems are Afoot in New Orleans

I hope everyone gets the fuck outa there safely. This ain't gonna be good at all:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/...rina/index.html

Cat 5 going into a river delta town with a levee that's gonna fall like a deck of cards. Oh shit.

Some other possible effects (besides destroying a beautiful city) - completely changing the course of the Mississippi River?:

http://www.pbs.org/journeytoplanete...neworleans.html

I know it's not politics, but I've got a cousin that owns a bed and breakfast down in the French Quarter that's likely gonna be wiped out. I hope everyone down there is safe.


Posted by George Smiley on Aug-28-2005 18:24:

I'm supposed to be goin there in January! (If your cousins bnb is still standing perhaps he could give us a TA discount!!)

I hope everyone gets out too, but from what I've heard about NO I should imagine half the population stay behind for a good ol' bit of lootin!


Posted by Aiwendil on Aug-28-2005 20:28:

http://www.nd.edu/%7Eadcirc/pam.htm

Check DAT out...


And they say that what...30-40% of america's gas comes from New Orleans? :/ NO is HQ for five or six Oil companies. More than a million barrels of oil pass through refineries there each day. Well, now none will.


Posted by Q5echo on Aug-28-2005 21:38:

yup, she's a HUGE bitch. all the makings of a disaster.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Aug-29-2005 00:43:

Those of you in the US that sent money away for those tsunami victims better open up your pocketbooks again.

It looks to be just as worse if not at least as worse.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Aug-29-2005 03:17:

Maybe our money can help to move the city to somewhere on higher ground so this never happens again.


Posted by donnybrasco on Aug-29-2005 03:42:

So sad.

What a great city...all that history...and commerce!

It will take months, if not longer, to rebuild the levies and pump the water out...........once it's done, half the city will likely need to be bull-dozed.

This WILL be huge!


Posted by NeoPhono on Aug-29-2005 04:50:

Just goes to show you that everywhere you live mother nature can stick one to you.

Sure, I live in Ohio where I don't have to worry about earthquakes, volcanos, hurricanes or wild fires, we just have floods, droughts and tornados. It's just a matter of pick your poison I suppose.

Although you'd have to pay me to live in New Orleans...it's an "interesting" place to visit, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to live there.

I hope that all stay safe in Katrina's wake. At least we can rest assured that the US will come together to help those in need afterwards as we have so many times in the past.


Posted by Dupz on Aug-29-2005 10:07:

So i hear it's a cat 5 storm now.. I think that's one of only 3 others ever recorded (including hurricane Ivan i think) to hit land.

Half a million people evacuated and plenty of warning time should be enough to avoid huge losses in life..

gee i'm glad i live in Melbourne.. No volcanos, earthquakes or hurricanes to deal with.. Bushfires yes, but that's preventable.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Aug-30-2005 22:04:

Latest news the Mayor of New Orleans says the whole city is going to have to be evacuated.


Posted by NeoPhono on Aug-30-2005 23:23:

It'll be interesting to see what the international response (if any) is as far as aid and helping to clean up the mess down there.

The world sent a lot of aid to Asia in wake of the tsunami, I wonder if the US will get that kind of support.

Something tells me I already know the answer.


Posted by kush paintings on Aug-30-2005 23:47:

An interesting bit I heard on the radio, the National Guard of Louisiana , which is equipped to handle this event (mainly evactuating the 30,000+ people in the Superdome) is currently stationed in Iraq... with their amphibious equipment. And people still say we aren't stretched too thin. I started a thread on this question that was raised on this same radio show, what are they going to do with the prisoners in the nearby jails? Transportation would be dangerous, although that obiviously needs to happen. As far as the Superdome, how in the hell are they going to get all 30,000+ people out of that building. New Orleans is 80% underwater, so don't believe for a second that transporation can be done with any sort of ease. There was also a gambling quarter that was second to only Vegas in popularity (yes, even more popular than atlantic city). The entire site is completely in ruins. The schools in the area are shutdown, and gave a tenative date for reopening as September 7th. But, that of course is fucking laughable. Fortunately many people had already evacuated, but obviously there still is a large number of people still in New Orleans. Its a terrible dissaster, and as many are saying, it is only getting worse.


Posted by kush paintings on Aug-30-2005 23:52:

Neo, I really hope the world does show the same kind of support. The death toll will not be even close to comparable (there are only 70 estimated deaths right now), but the cost of destruction will be far higher. Anyways, cnn.com has a nicely organized page for all the information you want. Here's the link.

Link


Posted by George Smiley on Aug-31-2005 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
It'll be interesting to see what the international response (if any) is as far as aid and helping to clean up the mess down there.

The world sent a lot of aid to Asia in wake of the tsunami, I wonder if the US will get that kind of support.

Something tells me I already know the answer.

Well to be fair, and I'm no sayin this to take the piss, but America doesn't need any aid whatsoever like the Asian countries did


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-31-2005 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Well to be fair, and I'm no sayin this to take the piss, but America doesn't need any aid whatsoever like the Asian countries did


Sure it does.

Help doesn't always comes in money.

The Dutch could help New Orleans build a proper levee system for instance...

Other nations can send pumping/construction ships.

Mexico, Canada, can all send assitance - boats, helos, etc.

Frigates, hospital ships, transports...

And the Brits, well they're useless you're right


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-31-2005 01:40:

Oh and Kush:

quote:

Inmates from a flooded parish jail were relocated to a freeway on-ramp, where they sat out in the sun, under the watch of armed officers.

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/...rina/index.html


Posted by George Smiley on Aug-31-2005 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Sure it does.

Help doesn't always comes in money.

The Dutch could help New Orleans build a proper levee system for instance...

Other nations can send pumping/construction ships.

Mexico, Canada, can all send assitance - boats, helos, etc.

Frigates, hospital ships, transports...

And the Brits, well they're useless you're right

We only rescue Russians!

Anyway, you list all those countries, but what's Israel gonna do?! Surely America must be able to get summat out of the alliance for once?!


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-31-2005 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
We only rescue Russians!

Anyway, you list all those countries, but what's Israel gonna do?! Surely America must be able to get summat out of the alliance for once?!


Other than having a large merchant fleet (which isn't nationally owned anymore). Israel simply has not designed itself to react to floods and hurricanes. However, they do have an excellent ground rescue team which is sent the world over during natrual disasters typically envolving rubble and collapesed buildings.

Nations closest to the USA obviously have the most to give, next would be the nations with technical expertise and unused navies, next nations who can give money.

Right now all that Israelis are doing is donating out of their private funds to help the rescue efforts just like most Americans...


Posted by George Smiley on Aug-31-2005 02:30:

Surely America doesn't need any money?!


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-31-2005 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Surely America doesn't need any money?!


Surely you don't need any money!


Posted by DaveSZ on Aug-31-2005 03:02:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

quote:


We knew this was coming.

Two days after 9/11, Jerry Falwell took to the airwaves to proclaim that God had allowed the United States to be attacked because "the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians" had tried to transform America into a secular society. Just this weekend, wingnuts from the Westboro Baptist Church turned out at the funerals of two fallen soldiers to say that God is punishing the United States in Iraq for its tolerance of homosexuality back home.

So when Hurricane Katrina hit land yesterday, we knew it was only a matter of time before we'd be hearing from the lunatic fringe again. And now, here it is. In an email message we just received, a group calling itself Columbia Christians for Life alerts us to the fact that a satellite image of Hurricane Katrina as it hit the Gulf Coast Monday looks just like a six-week old fetus.

"The image of the hurricane . . . with its eye already ashore at 12:32 p.m. Monday, August 29, looks like a fetus (unborn human baby) facing to the left (west) in the womb, in the early weeks of gestation (approx. 6 weeks)," the email message says. "Even the orange color of the image is reminiscent of a commonly used pro-life picture of early prenatal development."

And in case you're not getting the point, the email message spells it out in black and white: "Louisiana has 10 child-murder-by-abortion centers," the groups says, and "five are in New Orleans."

But why would God single out Louisiana? Other states have many more abortion clinics, and Louisiana and the other states hit hardest by Katrina all voted for the pro-life president of the United States. It didn't add up for us at first, but the Columbia Christians for Life have an answer for everything. God has already punished California with earthquakes, forest fires and mudslides; New York with 9/11; and Florida with Hurricanes Bonnie, Charley, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne and the early version of Katrina.




Posted by Dupz on Aug-31-2005 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html



gee you people live with some freaks... how has darwinism not knocked these people out of the gene pool???


Posted by kush paintings on Aug-31-2005 04:49:

Seriously. Wtf?


Posted by donnybrasco on Aug-31-2005 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Nations closest to the USA obviously have the most to give, next would be the nations with technical expertise and unused navies...


Canada is on the verge if a war with the Danish...so all 2 of their PT Boats are N/A.


Posted by George Smiley on Aug-31-2005 08:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Surely you don't need any money!

Eh?


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