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Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:15:

Hold 'em or fold 'em?

I played my first poker tournament today. there was about 60 people, 10 people per table, with a $30 buy-in. so i ask you...

you hold QhQd.

the flop is 469, all unsuited.

the person to your left goes all in. the person next to him calls. it's on you, and you're the short stack.

hold 'em, or fold 'em??


Posted by Mebot on Aug-29-2005 05:15:

hold em

no guts no glory


Posted by Orbax on Aug-29-2005 05:16:

I go all in. It pisses everyone off and I usually win


Posted by verndogs on Aug-29-2005 05:17:

what were the playing styles of the raiser who went all in and the caller?


Posted by Orbax on Aug-29-2005 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
what were the playing styles of the raiser who went all in and the caller?


dont kill the thread.


Posted by UWM on Aug-29-2005 05:21:

and how many people were left at your table when this happened, just the three of you?


Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
what were the playing styles of the raiser who went all in and the caller?


slightly aggressive and pretty tight, but that's how i played as well. you don't play many hands, but the ones you do you use to your fullest advantage.

results of the turn and river to come soon (since i called, of course)


Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
and how many people were left at your table when this happened, just the three of you?


throughout the night, people were dropping out of our table like flies, so as people got knocked out of the table, more people began to fill in.

..so there were ten people at the table, but it was just us three after the flop.


Posted by Vlad on Aug-29-2005 05:25:

Other than understanding the other players playing styles. The best pair on the flop could be a 9. Someone could be holding a 6/4 hoping for a straight draw. My guess is someone is holding a straight draw... maybe a 10/8, maybe a 7/8...

Heres the situation...
a. They are bluffing.
b. They are on a draw.
c. They are playing to scare you and get you out.

I pick C. Id go all in.

Lets say both of them have a pair (using the flop) with a low card, that already slims down the chance of more low cards to fall. In the end, Id think someone is holding a 6/A, and Id pray that an Ace doesnt fall.


Posted by verndogs on Aug-29-2005 05:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
dont kill the thread.




quote:
slightly aggressive and pretty tight, but that's how i played as well. you don't play many hands, but the ones you do you use to your fullest advantage.


From the info you provided, probably call


Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Other than understanding the other players playing styles. The best pair on the flop could be a 9. Someone could be holding a 6/4 hoping for a straight draw. My guess is someone is holding a straight draw... maybe a 10/8, maybe a 7/8...

Heres the situation...
a. They are bluffing.
b. They are on a draw.
c. They are playing to scare you and get you out.

I pick C. Id go all in.

Lets say both of them have a pair (using the flop) with a low card, that already slims down the chance of more low cards to fall. In the end, Id think someone is holding a 6/A, and Id pray that an Ace doesnt fall.



LOL you're damn close.


oh yeah, i raised before the flop and both the guys called also. anyways

i figured that with 469.. most likely one of them was going for a straight draw... and at best someone had low pocket pair and caught trips... or MAYBE caught two pair... but who the fuck would call with 69? or 49?

so i call.

it ends up, and this is probably gonna make you guys laugh



first guy who goes all in- A7 offsuit.
second guy who calls- K5 offsuit (why the fuck would he call??)
me- QQ.


turn- 6.

i catch two pair.





river-...
...
............
......


.........




FUCKING ACE GODDAMMIT WHAT THE FUCK

and there went my chipstack, and a shot at $1000. FUCK


Posted by verndogs on Aug-29-2005 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
LOL you're damn close.


oh yeah, i raised before the flop and both the guys called also. anyways

i figured that with 469.. most likely one of them was going for a straight draw... and at best someone had low pocket pair and caught trips... or MAYBE caught two pair... but who the fuck would call with 69? or 49?

so i call.

it ends up, and this is probably gonna make you guys laugh



first guy who goes all in- A7 offsuit.
second guy who calls- K5 offsuit (why the fuck would he call??)
me- QQ.


turn- 6.

i catch two pair.





river-...
...
............
......


.........




FUCKING ACE GODDAMMIT WHAT THE FUCK

and there went my chipstack, and a shot at $1000. FUCK


welcome to the wonderful world of poker


Posted by Mebot on Aug-29-2005 05:36:

you should've folded


Posted by Vlad on Aug-29-2005 05:37:

Hehe, yea, its a rule of thumb in poker, ALWAYS PLAY THE ACE. Thats why I figured an A/6.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
welcome to the wonderful world of poker


right? what a bad beat. there's always next sunday i guess.


Posted by verndogs on Aug-29-2005 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
you should've folded



Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Hehe, yea, its a rule of thumb in poker, ALWAYS PLAY THE ACE. Thats why I figured an A/6.


i guess, but man, i hate top face cards with low-ass kickers. i usually fold those unless it's an ace. who goes all in hoping for an ace though seriously? the worst part about it was i pretty much had like a %90 chance of winning that hand when the turn didn't help them out.


Posted by Vlad on Aug-29-2005 05:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
right? what a bad beat. there's always next sunday i guess.


Even the best poker players in the world would loose with that hand. I could just imagine the expression from Phil Helmouth if he was holding that hand.


Posted by Vlad on Aug-29-2005 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i guess, but man, i hate top face cards with low-ass kickers. i usually fold those unless it's an ace. who goes all in hoping for an ace though seriously? the worst part about it was i pretty much had like a %90 chance of winning that hand when the turn didn't help them out.



Not 90... maybe 80... but still, its a really shitty way to loose.

But like I said... I think it was more of a bluff to push you all in than a play at the Ace.


Posted by verndogs on Aug-29-2005 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Hehe, yea, its a rule of thumb in poker, ALWAYS PLAY THE ACE. Thats why I figured an A/6.


I like that rule of thumb


Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Even the best poker players in the world would loose with that hand. I could just imagine the expression from Phil Helmouth if he was holding that hand.


yeah that guy's a whiny bitch. but after i lost i was pretty un-sportsman-like myself, i just said "FUCK!" and shoved my chips at the guy. and then i left. looking back it was probably pretty funny to see something like that.

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
you should've folded


hindsight is always 20/20.


Posted by verndogs on Aug-29-2005 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Not 90... maybe 80... but still, its a really shitty way to loose.


there are worse ways to lose...

In the WSOP this year, one guy had 5-5 and flopped quad fives. He checks and sees a guy goes all in after he checks and happily calls.
The guy was holding a pair of nines

the turn and river cards were both nines


Posted by UWM on Aug-29-2005 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Even the best poker players in the world would loose with that hand. I could just imagine the expression from Phil Helmouth if he was holding that hand.


I've played a few games with Helmuth here in Madison, he was actually pretty cool but these weren't high stakes games by any means


Posted by Vlad on Aug-29-2005 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
there are worse ways to lose...

In the WSOP this year, one guy had 5-5 and flopped quad fives. He checks and sees a guy goes all in after he checks and happily calls.
The guy was holding a pair of nines

the turn and river cards were both nines


See thats just fucked up, lol.


I remember watching celebrity poker on NBC and Daniel Negraneau (sp?) called the river and the flop and got a straight flush. It was amazing.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2005 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
there are worse ways to lose...

In the WSOP this year, one guy had 5-5 and flopped quad fives. He checks and sees a guy goes all in after he checks and happily calls.
The guy was holding a pair of nines

the turn and river cards were both nines


no way! that would suck

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I've played a few games with Helmuth here in Madison, he was actually pretty cool but these weren't high stakes games by any means


yeah, he's from madison originally right?


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