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The US Abstinence-only push worsens Africa's AIDS situation, says UN
An inane and retared policy formulated by Christian nuts in this country could only be viable here in the US, which is a rather uptight part of the world. But in the UN, where this push for abstinence only to fight AIDS came under international spotlight, America is now seen as a laughingstock:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9118071/
JOHANNESBURG, South Africa - The U.S. government�s emphasis on abstinence-only programs to prevent AIDS is hobbling Africa�s battle against the pandemic by downplaying the role of condoms, a senior U.N. official said on Monday.
Stephen Lewis, the U.N. secretary general�s special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa, said fundamentalist Christian ideology was driving Washington�s AIDS assistance program known as PEPFAR with disastrous results, including condom shortages in Uganda.
The Bush administration favors prevention programs that focus on abstinence rather than condom use and has more than doubled funding for U.S. abstinence-only programs over the past five years.
As part of President Bush�s global AIDS plan, the U.S. government has already budgeted about $8 million this year for abstinence-only projects in Uganda, human rights groups say.
Severe shortage of condoms
Activists in both Uganda and the United States say the country is now in the grip of condom shortage so severe that men are using plastic garbage bags in an effort to protect themselves.
�There is no question in my mind that the condom crisis in Uganda is being driven and exacerbated by PEPFAR and by the extreme policies that the administration in the U.S. is now pursuing in the emphasis on abstinence,� Lewis told journalists on a teleconference.
�That distortion of the preventive apparatus ... is resulting in great damage and undoubtedly will cause significant numbers of infections which should never have occurred.�
Many health experts say condoms are the most effective bulwark against AIDS.
The Office of the U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator which administers PEPFAR did not immediately return calls seeking comment. It has rejected criticism over condom policy in the past, saying it maintains a balanced approach to prevention.
Uganda had been praised for cutting HIV infection rates to around 6 percent today from 30 percent in the early 1990s, a rare success story in Africa�s battle against the disease.
But President Yoweri Museveni�s government has come under criticism for sidelining its condom policy, a move activists tie to pressure from Washington through its PEPFAR program.
The Ugandan government, which in 2004 recalled free condoms over quality fears, has failed to provide alternatives � pushing the price of store-bought condoms up threefold, Ugandan activist Beatrice.
�What PEPFAR has done is to have made it possible for a number of Pentacostal and more fundamentalist churches to pursue the abstinence agenda,� he said.
�I think the administration and PEPFAR have to come to their senses ... to impose dogmatic policies is doing great damage to Africa.�
you've never been outside of this country have you? And that article has made more sense 2+2=4
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| Originally posted by Lepanto you've never been outside of this country have you? |
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd haha idiot I've traveled a lot |
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| Originally posted by Lepanto yeah i'm sure you have, fool, that's why we're "uptight" |
i've never see a 3 year old with a top to the beach or anything else you've said, you must be 14 years old from that first paragraph.
let's just all spend money on africa's condoms because they are too stupid to stop fucking. LMAO
oh yeah, traveling to canada does not mean traveling.
As to answer to your question about the beach, in switzerland, austria, spain, to name a few you weren't allowed to wear a thong to the beach. something i enjoy daily here 
now let's forget the fact that the media is mostly full of shit, what do YOU propose we do about poor ol' Africa?
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd On topic: Where else do pharmacists increasingly refuse to sell condoms... |
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| Originally posted by Lepanto albania, romania, bulgaria, latvia, lithuania, estonia, the Ukraine, Russia, Bellorussia, georgia, uzbekistan, vietnam, north korea, cuba, argentina, brazil, Moldova, Serbia, the list goes on and on and on and on and on. |
Have you ever had sex Lapento?
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd WTF moron do you even know what you're talking about??? Lithuania, Estonia, Belorussia, Russia???? Are you crazy, ever been in these countries?? I SURE HAVE! People are not religious there! Condoms are in school vending machines in these countries, idiot!!! There are vending machines with condoms in most high schools in Russia, France, and other European countries!!! |
what you wrote has no relevance to the topic of the thread, which is the attempt to lessen the availability of condoms due to a conservative American agenda.
I agree there may be HIV problems in Russia and Eastern Europe, but there is no attempt by any government there or by any group there to suppress the availability of condoms, quite the contrary: they're freely available and there are government programs to popularize their use.
This thread is going to go Opus in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd what you wrote has no relevance to the topic of the thread, which is the attempt to lessen the availability of condoms due to a conservative American agenda. I agree there may be HIV problems in Russia and Eastern Europe, but there is no attempt by any government there or by any group there to suppress the availability of condoms, quite the contrary: they're freely available and there are government programs to popularize their use. |
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| Originally posted by Lepanto brazil |
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| Originally posted by Lepanto As to answer to your question about the beach, in switzerland, austria, spain, to name a few you weren't allowed to wear a thong to the beach. something i enjoy daily here |
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| Originally posted by Lepanto would you rather the US spend even more money on help to Africa while everything else we and the UN spends makes no difference as it is? It's a very hard to solve problem, and throwing money or condoms at it isn't going to make it go away, dude. |
If spain didn't allow thongs on the beach than why would they allow for a majority of women to be topless? The most conservative Nation in the "West" would definatly be USA. I too have traveled a lot and I have seen more than just family. You are not in the Mob; are you? If you are than I take back all what I say if it offends you.
You said Brazil pharmicists refuse to sell condoms? Come on women in Brail while on the beach hardly wear any clothing. You really suspect me to believe that the pharmacists refuse to sell condoms.
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid You said Brazil pharmicists refuse to sell condoms? Come on women in Brazil while on the beach hardly wear any clothing. You really suspect me to believe that the pharmacists refuse to sell condoms. |
the post was a rush post so not all of it made sense. point being was the russian article that was a counter post to the authors claim that condoms are so important. true in alot of those countries condoms are available in schools but what does that all mean? in the former USSR region AIDS is a HUGE epidemic. therefore condoms don't really mean jack shit. educating people is what matters the most. the problem we here in the US face is that teachers in schools and shit don't really talk about it untill high school health class.
i remmember in my health class (something u could only take as a senior) we were watching the movie KIDS which is quiet frighting but was already too late 90 percent of people. if they show this movie back in 7th grade no one would be fucking till they are like 50.
the original post was pretty dumb seeing us how abstinence would be the only thing outside of education, something that's very hard to come by in Africa, to stop the spread of AIDS.
Dioclytian in the Roman Empire (during the terrible cenutry of plague and famine) froze the empire in it's place because he figured if everything they tried didn't work or made things worse they should leave it the way it is. this applies to Africa because if most of the shit we try doesn't do too much how about just stoping the problem, aka abstinance. not the best idea but that should definatly be on the agenda since condom use isn't too popular over there.
when i first heard about this i laughed too but if there's no other alternative what do you want politicians and aid programs to propose?
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| Originally posted by Lepanto yeah i'm sure you have, fool, that's why we're "uptight" |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew Someone who's saying america is not uptight obviously has no clue what he's talking about. I know I make no sense  |
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| Originally posted by Lepanto there we go. |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew Seriously. Only in N. America they censor nakedness on TV, cause you cant show that to children... Only in N. America ppl get offended if someone has too litle clothes on them... Only in N. America the majority of the parents think teenage sex should be avoided... Only in N. America teenagers have to keep their sexlife a secret for their parents... Only in N. America they promote abstinence only as a way of preventing aids... Only in N. America they censor swearwords on TV... Only in N. America you are not allowed to be nude on public beaches... Etc. America is cool, but to say it's not uptight is nuts! Disclaimer: I do realise I'm generalizing here and I really don't know about all European countries but I think this is the general case. Also when I say Only in N. America I mean only in the western world, obviously there are many countries that are as bad but just not as developed/totally different culture. |
America doen't make other people think differntly or whatever. They influence them sure and teach them the system of gov't and society that works for them. No one thinks that it's the best but it works fine here, look at what the country accomplished so it could work for others. It really depends on the people, some countries would love our kind of gov't and all but someone would kill not to have it. it kinda all comes down to being a lesson in anthropology.
Re: The US Abstinence-only push worsens Africa's AIDS situation, says UN
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd An inane and retared policy formulated by Christian nuts in this country could only be viable here in the US, which is a rather uptight part of the world. But in the UN, where this push for abstinence only to fight AIDS came under international spotlight, America is now seen as a laughingstock: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9118071/ JOHANNESBURG, South Africa - The U.S. government�s emphasis on abstinence-only programs to prevent AIDS is hobbling Africa�s battle against the pandemic by downplaying the role of condoms, a senior U.N. official said on Monday. Stephen Lewis, the U.N. secretary general�s special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa, said fundamentalist Christian ideology was driving Washington�s AIDS assistance program known as PEPFAR with disastrous results, including condom shortages in Uganda. The Bush administration favors prevention programs that focus on abstinence rather than condom use and has more than doubled funding for U.S. abstinence-only programs over the past five years. As part of President Bush�s global AIDS plan, the U.S. government has already budgeted about $8 million this year for abstinence-only projects in Uganda, human rights groups say. Severe shortage of condoms Activists in both Uganda and the United States say the country is now in the grip of condom shortage so severe that men are using plastic garbage bags in an effort to protect themselves. �There is no question in my mind that the condom crisis in Uganda is being driven and exacerbated by PEPFAR and by the extreme policies that the administration in the U.S. is now pursuing in the emphasis on abstinence,� Lewis told journalists on a teleconference. �That distortion of the preventive apparatus ... is resulting in great damage and undoubtedly will cause significant numbers of infections which should never have occurred.� Many health experts say condoms are the most effective bulwark against AIDS. The Office of the U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator which administers PEPFAR did not immediately return calls seeking comment. It has rejected criticism over condom policy in the past, saying it maintains a balanced approach to prevention. Uganda had been praised for cutting HIV infection rates to around 6 percent today from 30 percent in the early 1990s, a rare success story in Africa�s battle against the disease. But President Yoweri Museveni�s government has come under criticism for sidelining its condom policy, a move activists tie to pressure from Washington through its PEPFAR program. The Ugandan government, which in 2004 recalled free condoms over quality fears, has failed to provide alternatives � pushing the price of store-bought condoms up threefold, Ugandan activist Beatrice. �What PEPFAR has done is to have made it possible for a number of Pentacostal and more fundamentalist churches to pursue the abstinence agenda,� he said. �I think the administration and PEPFAR have to come to their senses ... to impose dogmatic policies is doing great damage to Africa.� |
Fir3start3r, please read the article.
Uganda is not facing a shortage because the US is refusing to give or sell condoms to it, but because it has been recieving diplomatic pressure from the USA to stop with it's condom program, and pursue abstinence programs instead. For some reason, it is doing this, perhaps because it fears it may lose aid if it doesn't comply.
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| Originally posted by Chris Larkin Fir3start3r, please read the article. Uganda is not facing a shortage because the US is refusing to give or sell condoms to it, but because it has been recieving diplomatic pressure from the USA to stop with it's condom program, and pursue abstinence programs instead. For some reason, it is doing this, perhaps because it fears it may lose aid if it doesn't comply. |
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