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Anyone can help out with Speeding tickets?!

Anyone?!?!

uh-oh.. how big Shaya??

damn police

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Originally posted by magikb uh-oh.. how big Shaya?? damn police

Well not as big as the ones I've gotten before (which btw were ages ago)..lol!

27kms over...

my buddy once got a ticket for speeding and he had to send it in with a cheque so what he did was send in a cheque for more money than the ticket was worth. They sent the cheque back to him and thats the last time he heard of the ticket. (rumor) I think so
(Worth a try) HELL YA!

27 over... how many points is that?

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Originally posted by Shaya007 Well not as big as the ones I've gotten before (which btw were ages ago)..lol! 27kms over...

apparently you can pay a ton of money though Points to get it taken care of.. they will erase your points and ticket.. but i think it costs somewhere along the lines of $300+ to do it..

I think there was a thread a long while back about this.. and if my memory is correct.. it was dance2dabeat who got the ticket?? I could be wrong though!

Re: Anyone can help out with Speeding tickets?!

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Originally posted by Shaya007 Anyone?!?!

PM me Shaya...I can provide you with a reliable contact that can help!


Nada

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Originally posted by ghetto_fab my buddy once got a ticket for speeding and he had to send it in with a cheque so what he did was send in a cheque for more money than the ticket was worth. They sent the cheque back to him and thats the last time he heard of the ticket. (rumor) I think so (Worth a try) HELL YA!

No offense, but your friend is full of shit if he said that. It's an old urban legend that you can overpay the ticket, and they'll send you back a check for the balance, and if you don't cash it then some glitch in the system will prevent the ticket from ever getting processed. It DOESN'T WORK! The Ontario government is MORE than happy to accept your little gift!

FYST is a decent resource (www.magma.com/~fyst). If you don't trust their advice (it's pretty good but it won't *always* work) then I think your best bet is just to hire a lawyer (if you have lots of money), go to Pointts (if you have a little money), or start sobbing to a Justice of the Peace and hope that they take pity on you and reduce your fine/points. (if you have no money).

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Originally posted by magikb apparently you can pay a ton of money though Points to get it taken care of.. they will erase your points and ticket..

They most certainly will not. They guarantee a "win", but that's just a reduction in the fine/points. There's no guarantee how much of a reduction, and there may be no reduction at all - it just means you get your money back, but you're still raped on insurance. If you go with an agency like Pointts or X-Copper, then the only way you can get off scot-free is if the cop doesn't show up to court, in which case you'd have been better off saving your money and going to court yourself.

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Originally posted by DigiNut [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#99CCEE]They most certainly will not. They guarantee a "win", but that's just a reduction in the fine/points. There's no guarantee how much of a reduction, and there may be no reduction at all - it just means you get your money back, but you're still raped on insurance. If you go with an agency like Pointts or X-Copper, then the only way you can get off scot-free is if the cop doesn't show up to court, in which case you'd have been better off saving your money and going to court yourself.

see, I wouldn't know that for sure.. just from things I have heard.
I have always just taken the hit in points and paid my fines.. I can't be bothered with fighting it. But I have been lucky, my insurance has NEVER gone up even with all my tickets!

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Originally posted by magikb see, I wouldn't know that for sure.. just from things I have heard. I have always just taken the hit in points and paid my fines.. I can't be bothered with fighting it. But I have been lucky, my insurance has NEVER gone up even with all my tickets!

Damn, you are lucky. In my first year of driving, I got a huge-ass speeding ticket and my "agent" decided on the day of the trial that he couldn't make it to court, so I had to take the full hit. Well, my insurance went up $100/month the following year, w00t!

Edit: Just so there's no confusion, that's up *BY* $100, not up *TO* $100.

You can try one of 2 things

First of all #1 you got to get a trial date in Peel you got to go in person top do it now but I don't know for sure what the situation is in Toronto. So check the not guilty with trial date on the ticket.

1) If you�re feeling luck, on the trial date (remembering with the officer looks like) go to the court house and check your trial time. Then keep an eye out for the officer the whole time before your trial. If you lucky they wont show up and you plead not guilty in front of the judge. If they don�t show then you�re off.

2) The safer approach if on the trial date you go on the courtroom and hour or so before the am or pm sessions begin and tell the crown attorney you are wiling to plead guilty to the reduced infraction. This will be 0 point and most insurance companies will allow 2 minor moving violations per year without any increase in rates.

Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by TrickDaddE 2) The safer approach if on the trial date you go on the courtroom and hour or so before the am or pm sessions begin and tell the crown attorney you are wiling to plead guilty to the reduced infraction. This will be 0 point and most insurance companies will allow 2 minor moving violations per year without any increase in rates.

This is what my coworker did. He was about 30 over but pleaded to 10 over (I think) so no points but he paid the fine.

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Originally posted by TrickDaddE You can try one of 2 things First of all #1 you got to get a trial date in Peel you got to go in person top do it now but I don't know for sure what the situation is in Toronto. So check the not guilty with trial date on the ticket. 1) If you�re feeling luck, on the trial date (remembering with the officer looks like) go to the court house and check your trial time. Then keep an eye out for the officer the whole time before your trial. If you lucky they wont show up and you plead not guilty in front of the judge. If they don�t show then you�re off. 2) The safer approach if on the trial date you go on the courtroom and hour or so before the am or pm sessions begin and tell the crown attorney you are wiling to plead guilty to the reduced infraction. This will be 0 point and most insurance companies will allow 2 minor moving violations per year without any increase in rates. Hope this helps.

Sounds good...
Thanks..

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Originally posted by DigiNut Damn, you are lucky. In my first year of driving, I got a huge-ass speeding ticket and my "agent" decided on the day of the trial that he couldn't make it to court, so I had to take the full hit. Well, my insurance went up $100/month the following year, w00t! Edit: Just so there's no confusion, that's up *BY* $100, not up *TO* $100.

Yeah I have been really lucky when it comes to that.. even when I had 2 speeding tickets and my accident all within a year.. that happend to be the year I turned 25 and my insurance still dropped by $5/mth and they dropped me from a 6 star driver to a 5 star.. so next year when my insurance is renewed, my rates should drop quite a bit.. thank god

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Originally posted by Tordan This is what my coworker did. He was about 30 over but pleaded to 10 over (I think) so no points but he paid the fine.

The problem is, insurance companies don't care about the points, just the convictions.

Insurance companies will *not* let you off with 2 moving violations per year, it's 2 moving violations on your record period. And convictions stay on your record for I think 3 years?

That's where the problem lies... if it was just about the points and the fine then everybody would just plead guilty with an explanation, but it's worth it to try and fight if you can because you'll still get raked over the coals with insurance if you have multiple convictions on record.

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Originally posted by Shaya007 Anyone?!?!

you got 3 options

1. pay
2. pre-trial
3. trial

go for 2 2. pre-trial which basically means that they'll try to make a deal with you before a trial, they'll offer you 14 over the limit 60$ and no points guarranteed, I got 4 tickets, and never lost got a point

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....dont speed

I've never got a speeding ticket, but as my police buddy tells me, as long as you fight it, it will always be reduced by some amount.

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Originally posted by Swamper This stuff about you only pay if they lose is crap - a WIN is considered as anything - i.e. reduction in fine and/or overall charge. If guilty, Points stay on your record for 2 years from date of TICKET If guilty, Insurance keeps track of it for 3 years from the date of CONVICTION With this first attendance (meeting w/prosecutor) stuff you can reduce it to no points (depending on severity) - however - if you already have something on your record that will soon be gone (and insurance renewal is coming up) - you can request a first attendance meeting - show up - and turn down what they offer you - and then request a trial - further delaying things. This only benefits you if you're waiting for some points/prior convictions to be eliminated from your driving record and/or insurance.

Some other threads:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=280076

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=177578

I got off my 187kms. PM me for my cell phone number, its too long to type and it is the best way I have found yet. Trust me, I ride a sport bike and I'm very experienced in dealing with Canada�s Revenue Driving Tax Division.

The trick is to mess up the timing of the court date that the officer was given for the set of tickets he/she wrote during that month.

Once I ran a redlight (left turn) 2 cops pulled me, and then the guy said something about paying over the ticket and getting the points reduced /or subtracted all-together.

When it was court date, I had to meet up with the crown previous, and we agreed to reduce the ticket price and all points to be taken off. wicked deal.

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Originally posted by magikb apparently you can pay a ton of money though Points to get it taken care of.. they will erase your points and ticket.. but i think it costs somewhere along the lines of $300+ to do it..

Are you sure they can erase the ticket AND the points? I think their guarantee is that they reduce the points (at the least) and if they don't reduce any points, they at least reduce the fine (secondary to the points), and pay for the fine out of your fee. That's how X-copper does it. Most of the time, since these guys are ex-cops, they go in and get a plea bargain, sometimes from people they know in the police force.

I don't think anyone can ever guarantee to erase the points AND the fine. In fact, I don't think they can ever guarantee to erase either, maybe just reduce it. They can't really guarantee anything if they don't know the outcome and there's always a chance of them not erasing either one.

Sometimes, when you go into court early to check in, they'll offer you a plea bargain. For instance, I once got a ticket for reckless driving, which was 6 points. I was doing 130 in a 60 zone, and I had a head on collision with oncoming traffic. When I got to court, they offered me a plea bargain of reducing it to failure to share roadway, which was only 2 pionts, so I took it. I plead innocent to the reckless driving and plead guilty to failure to share roadway...Simple as that. I've been offered plea bargains for my last two speeding tickets, so I think it happens frequently, but not all the time.

You can also get your doctor to write you a note saying that you can't come in due to some severe illness, and then have your friend bring the note in on your behalf, and request a continuance on the grounds that you can't make it into court....Then, when they reschedule the courtdate, there's less of a chance of the cop showing up.

A lot of people think that it is only points that cause your insurance to go up, THEY ARE WRONG, the insurance companies see a speeding ticket as a ticket even if there are no points involved. Cops usually try and use the line of reducing it to no points to get you to stop discussing the ticket with them and to make themselves look like they are "helping" you.
Unless they will reduce the ticket from a major violation to a minor they are not really helping you in relation to insurance, they are only reducing the set fine amount.

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Originally posted by Little John A lot of people think that it is only points that cause your insurance to go up, THEY ARE WRONG, the insurance companies see a speeding ticket as a ticket even if there are no points involved.

Exactly.

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Originally posted by Mr. Furious You can also get your doctor to write you a note saying that you can't come in due to some severe illness, and then have your friend bring the note in on your behalf, and request a continuance on the grounds that you can't make it into court....Then, when they reschedule the courtdate, there's less of a chance of the cop showing up.

It's not true. If your trial date gets rescheduled, they will almost always schedule it to be on the officer's next court appearance. You think these people don't coordinate? HA!

DON'T EVER BANK ON THE COP BEING ABSENT, because you WILL get burned. If you don't want to get a lawyer/agent, then you had better get full disclosure and prepare your case!

The *only* way you can get around this is if you have want to be really sneaky and have a kick-ass friend who's willing to do this with you: go with your friend, wait in the car, and have your friend bring you in if the cop is absent or file for a continuance if the cop is there. And just keep repeating this until the cop doesn't show up. I should point out that this is essentially fraud and I would never dream of trying this myself! Not to mention, if you're not prepared, and the cop shows up a half hour late (after the court is in session but before you've entered your plea), you're fucked!

Remember, the cop who pulled you over has every incentive to show up to court. He gets paid overtime for sitting around and doing basically nothing for a couple of hours in an air-conditioned (or heated, in the winter) courtroom!

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Originally posted by DigiNut Exactly. It's not true. If your trial date gets rescheduled, they will almost always schedule it to be on the officer's next court appearance. You think these people don't coordinate? HA!

Well not exactly, the more court dates you have the greater chance you have that officer is not going to show and the greater chance that the officer is not scheduled to go to court.

This is what I did:

1st appearance: Talk to the crown and ask for a deal (don�t worry you are going to refuse it)
When in the court room check if the officer is there, if not take the trial and plead not guilty

If the office is there, then when you stand in front of your �HONOUR�, state that due to the serious nature of the ticket that you want to seek legal council and schedule another date (seeking legal council is a right)

Just before the second court date (about a week and a half) fax a document into the crown stating a request for disclosure of the officer�s notes.

2nd appearance:
Check if the officer is there, if not take the trial and plead not guilty

If the office is there, go to court and state that you cannot afford legal council and state that you are waiting to receive the disclosure to review the case on your own to see what you are up against.(The disclosure will not have arrived in time for this second date)

3rd appearance:
Check if the officer is there, if not take the trial and plead not guilty

If the officer is there you may at this time ask specific questions relating to the case, you should ask questions that are not noted in his notes(which you have already), if they answer ask him how many tickets he has given since the ticket was issued(proving how impossible it is to remember). Ask him how he can remember such details? You have to ask which method he caught you with and the range that he caught you at. These machines must be operated within a certain range and must be calibrated after every placement. He most likely will not have the other section of his notes with him that specify those details (since it has been so long and he is no longer fighting tickets from that batch), and after he answers the question ask him where in his notes that it supports his comments(if he doesn�t have the notes, you are off).

The point of all this is to create as many court appearances as possible to enhance the chance of the officer not showing up. And if he does he may not have all the specific notes relating to your case. I did this myself and it worked for me after 6 court dates, as they did not supply the disclosure, which was 100% worth the 187km/hr ticket I was given. I told them (each time a new judge) that I have now been here 6 times and this represents $XXX dollars of lost income which is more then the ticket (failure of due process)
P.S. if you take this advice, and it works please pm me and arrange to buy me a nice cold beer!

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