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Why are Asians doing so well?

Question.

Why are Asians by far and away the most successful minority group. I was looking at the average household incomes for minorities that were just released, and Asians were ahead of African Americans by about $10,000. Why is this?

'cause we rock

work ethic. my mom set foot in this country in 1969. didn't speak a lick of englaise, but she hasn't stopped since. after dealing with my dumb ass, owning four bars in three different cities, her second husband shot on the freeway, working topless between the bar ownerships. she hasn't stopped. i can say roughly the same about my Korean BFF parents in high school.

^^^Yah, they work their asses off!

...so, your Mom worked topless when she was younger? Got any pix?

Because they are extremely intelligent.

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Originally posted by Akridrot Because they are extremely intelligent.

Got that right. The (east) Asian people are smartest on this planet. LOL

It has to do with society.

Asians tend to be less adventurous, hardworking, and save save save!

Whereas other societies tend to enjoy life more.

Asians buy a car only when they have enough money in the bank and plus more, but other soceity might buy a car as soon as they get their first job and pay through installments.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco ...so, your Mom worked topless when she was younger? Got any pix?

i knew i shouldn't have told you f##kers that. but no. she's a very beautiful woman on many levels.

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Originally posted by Akridrot Because they are extremely intelligent.

Nope, because:

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Originally posted by Q5echo work ethic. my mom set foot in this country in 1969. didn't speak a lick of englaise, but she hasn't stopped since. after dealing with my dumb ass, owning four bars in three different cities...

Several reasons:

1. China as an example had a massive bureaucracy very early, with official positions in the government (the main and respectable path to fine living) being through the official examinations of the Chinese Classical texts. This encouraged literacy, and study, which was instituitonalized as a primary virtue in e.g., Confucianism, the state philosophy for 2000+ years.

2. China is still very poor. Study, due to practical reasons, is considered a luxury. Therefore everyone's goal is to study very hard with the time they do have, because those that do well are permitted to attend high schools and universities, and those that don't go to work in the textile factory. In short, studying hard leads to a better life for one's entire family in contemporary China (as in ancient China; moreover it is not unusual for three generations to live together as a family unit): you either make it and get a higher education, which leads to your entry to the middle class, or you fail and live in poverty for the rest of your life. The motivation to study hard and do hard work is therefore very powerful.

And there is no East Asian society that was not heavily influenced by China.

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where did you get those results? from what i found asians only make 6 more thousand a year. Regardless it is safe to say they make more than African Americans and Hispanics. I work for Asians and they are very smart and very hard working people. My boss works 6 days a week all year around. He never closes the place down, only on January 1st are we closed. He's a bit of a prick but working so much, he prolly has to be.

So we can say Asians have experienced success in this country because they have workerd hard, an ideal people believe is dead. Do Asians prove this to be alive and well, and if they do, why is it that other minorities are having a more difficult time?

Asians are very smart, but there's a catch. They're not very creative or imaginative. Their schools emphasize conformance and memorization, as opposed to thinking outside the box.

Once they adopt a certain scientific idea, they can develop it to unprecedented heights. BUT coming up with this idea in the first place, is hard for them.

Give me the name of a single Asian genius who would be equivalent to the European luminaries like Newton, Einstein, Roentgen, Leibniz etc.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Give me the name of a single Asian genius who would be equivalent to the European luminaries like Newton, Einstein, Roentgen, Leibniz etc.

The issue isn't their existence, the issue is that western culture doesn't spread their fame...

Zhang Heng's pretty cool if you want a place to start.

Culture.

This reminds me of a study I once read about. They wanted to find out why certain minority groups do so well in college and why certain ones do so bad. The study concluded it was mostly a factor of culture. For instance the study found some middle easterners and asian groups tend to stick together and develop their own supportive social rings. These groups also encourage each other to do well in school and help each other when someone is not. They study together in large groups and challenge each other's ideas. This hit home for me because its really true! If you walk around the library of any university during finals you're going to see these ethnic groups of people. They're usually huddled together yelling at each other with their text books open.

All this is contrary to what the study found for other minority groups, such as african americans. That group in particular tends to do poorly because its not based on a supportive social group like the others. The people in it are less social, less encouraged to do well, more based on an individual structure, and study alone rarely seeking outside help. This however does not go for all african americans, mostly just the ones that are descendant from the slaves. The blacks that come over directly from africa follow more closely to the group social structure.

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Originally posted by josh4 african americans. . The people in it are less social,

African Americans are the most social people I have ever met. They're very relaxed, charming, down-to-earth, and smooth, in complete contrast to whites who are extremely uptight.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd African Americans are the most social people I have ever met. They're very relaxed, charming, down-to-earth, and smooth, in complete contrast to whites who are extremely uptight.

not in a class room setting.

i was just describing what i remember from the study as best i could. i dont want this to turn into a racial argument thing with smiley eventually coming in calling me anti muslim.

ps check your pms stop taking so long to reply

Josh, I really agree with your points on culture. It seems African American culture is centered on entertainment, that is the desire of the young to be entertainers. Whereas, I believe Asians have more realistic goals.

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Originally posted by kush paintings Josh, I really agree with your points on culture. It seems African American culture is centered on entertainment, that is the desire of the young to be entertainers. Whereas, I believe Asians have more realistic goals.

But you do have to be thankful of black people after all they were the ones who created rock and roll so a white artist could just copy it and call himself "King of Rock and Roll."

Anyways Asians are doing better because of competition they are used to doing back in home.

One thing is for sure, African Americans are a lot more successful with women than Asians

depends on how you define intelligence you can have social/dating intelligence and that's where the Afro-Americans shine theyz got da right attitude.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd One thing is for sure, African Americans are a lot more successful with women than Asians depends on how you define intelligence you can have social/dating intelligence and that's where the Afro-Americans shine theyz got da right attitude.

And this is precisely where I suck at. I suck at the simplest things around.

You should ask "why are other minorities doing so poorly?"

The same thing that seperates Asians who do well from Asians who do poorly seperates Asians' median performances from the median performances of members of other minorities. To look at the issue of poverty or prosperity from a racial/ethnic perspective is already to deny yourself understanding of it.

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Originally posted by kush paintings Question. Why are Asians by far and away the most successful minority group. I was looking at the average household incomes for minorities that were just released, and Asians were ahead of African Americans by about $10,000. Why is this?

asia's a big place. i'd be careful not to draw too many inferences.

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Asia (�zh) , the world's largest continent, 17,139,000 sq mi (44,390,000 sq km), with about 3.3 billion people, nearly three fifths of the world's total population. Boundaries Asia's border with Europe�which, geographically, may be regarded as a peninsula of the Eurasian landmass�lies approximately along the Urals, the Ural River, the Caspian Sea, the Caucasus, the Black Sea, the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits, and the Aegean Sea. The connection of Asia with Africa is broken only by the Suez Canal between the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea. In the far northeast of Asia, Siberia is separated from North America by the Bering Strait. The continent of Asia is washed on the S by the Gulf of Aden, the Arabian Sea, and the Bay of Bengal; on the E by the South China Sea, East China Sea, Yellow Sea, Sea of Japan, Sea of Okhotsk, and Bering Sea; and on the N by the Arctic Ocean. Geology and Geography Geologically, Asia consists of ancient Precambrian landmasses�the Arabian and Indian peninsulas in the south and the central Siberian plateau in the north�enclosing a central zone of folded ridges. In accordance with this underlying structure, Asia falls into the following major physiographic structures: the northern lowlands covering W central Asia and most of Siberia; the vast central highland zone of high plateaus, rising to c.15,000 ft (4,570 m) in Tibet in China and enclosed by some of the world's greatest mountain ranges (the Himalayas, the Karakorum, the Kunlun, the Tian Shan, and the Hindu Kush); the southern peninsular plateaus of India and Arabia, merging, respectively, into the Ganges and Tigris-Euphrates plains; and the lowlands of E Asia, especially in China, which are separated by mountain spurs of the central highland zone. Mt. Everest (29,035 ft/8,856 m), in Nepal, is the world's highest peak; the Dead Sea (1,312 ft/400 m below sea level) is the world's lowest point. Great peninsulas extend out from the mainland, dividing the oceans into seas and bays, many of them protected by Asia's numerous offshore islands. Asia's rivers, among the longest in the world, generally rise in the high plateaus and break through the great chains toward the peripheral lowlands. They include the Ob-Irtysh, the Yenisei-Argana, and Lena of Siberia; the Amur-Argun, Huang He, Chang (Yangtze), Xi, Mekong, Thanlwin, and Ayeyarwady of E and SE Asia; and the Ganges-Brahmaputra, Indus, and Tigris-Euphrates of S and SW Asia. Central Asia has vast areas of interior drainage, including the Amu Darya, Syr Darya, Ili, and Tarim rivers, which empty into inland lakes or disappear into desert sands. The Aral Sea, Lake Baykal, and Lake Balkash are among the world's largest lakes. Climatically, the continent ranges through all extremes, from torrid heat to arctic cold and from torrential rains (the product of monsoons) to extreme aridity (as in the Tarim Basin). Asia can be divided into six regions, each possessing distinctive physical, cultural, economic, and political characteristics. Southwest Asia (Iran; Turkey, in Asia Minor; and the nations of the Fertile Crescent and the Arabian peninsula or Arabia), long a strategic crossroad, is characterized by an arid climate and irrigated agriculture, great petroleum reserves, and the predominance of Islam. South Asia (Afghanistan and the nations of the Indian subcontinent) is isolated from the rest of Asia by great mountain barriers. Southeast Asia (the nations of the southeastern peninsula and the Malay Archipelago) is characterized by monsoon climate, maritime orientation, the fusion of Indian and Chinese cultures, and a great diversity of ethnic groups, languages, religions, and politics. East Asia (China, Mongolia, Korea, and the islands of Taiwan and Japan) is located in the mid-latitudes on the Pacific Ocean, and is characterized by cultures strongly influenced by civilizations of the Huang He and Chang (Yangtze) river systems. It forms the most industrialized region of Asia. Russian Asia (in the northern third of the continent) consists of the vast region of Siberia and the Russian Far East. In the center of the continent is Central Asia, formed of a set of independent former republics of the Soviet Union. This region is characterized by desert conditions and irrigated agriculture, with ancient traditions of nomadic herding. Population, Culture, and Economy The distribution of Asia's huge population is governed by climate and topography, with the monsoons and the fertile alluvial plains determining the areas of greatest density. Such are the Ganges plains of India and the Chang (Yangtze) and northern plains of China, the small alluvial plains of Japan, and the fertile volcanic soils of the Malay Archipelago. Urbanization is greatest in the industrialized regions of Japan, Korea, and Taiwan, but huge urban centers are to be found throughout the continent. Almost two thirds of Asia's indigenous population is of Mongolic stock. Major religions are Hinduism (in India); Theravada Buddhism (in Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos); Lamaism, or Tibetan Buddhism (in Mongolia and China, particularly Tibet); East Asian Buddhism (in China and Korea, mixed with Confucianism, shamanism, and Taoism; in Japan mixed with Shinto and Confucianism); Islam (in SW and S Asia, W central Asia, and Indonesia); and Catholicism (in the Philippines, East Timor, and Vietnam).

I am confused, I was talking about Asian Americans and there relative incomes to other minorities. What does the size and population of Asia have to do with that.

When you say Asians, are you only reffering to East Asians (Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc.)?

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Originally posted by kush paintings I am confused, I was talking about Asian Americans and there relative incomes to other minorities. What does the size and population of Asia have to do with that.

liem i wrote asia's a big place. whom do you speack of? indian-americans, chinese-americans, mongolians-americans, japanese-americans, filipinos-americans, tibetans-americans, latoians-americans, cambodian-americans, vietnamese-americans, korean-americans, thailandese-americans, indonesian-americans, and so forth?

if you look at the several groups you'll discover that there are differences amongst them in incomes and education. that's why i caution to be careful about drawing broad inferences or explanations.

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yeah I dunno

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