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Posted by tatgirl on Sep-01-2005 12:47:

The water is on fire (Hurricane aftermath)

CNN is showing some live video coverage of a fire IN THE WATER!

Posted by Skipper on Sep-01-2005 13:13:

I'm not surprised. there are oil spills all throughout the city.

this whole thing baffles me. it's like thomas hobbes' state of nature.

Posted by jon jon on Sep-01-2005 13:57:

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Originally posted by Skipper
hobbes' state of nature.

Posted by Orko on Sep-01-2005 14:06:

I just saw a report that they had to abandon rescue efforts for people in the Super Dome, because the military helicopter was shot at!!!

Posted by AwakenedAddict on Sep-01-2005 15:13:

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Originally posted by Orko
I just saw a report that they had to abandon rescue efforts for people in the Super Dome, because the military helicopter was shot at!!!

Haven't heard that. But it would not surprise me considering that people who were taking shelter in the Superdome during the storm left after the storm had passed to go LOOTING.

Posted by awishabear on Sep-01-2005 15:19:

http://msnbc.msn.com

Tons of coverage there (albeit american, but what else is available)... They did report the shooting at the helicopter... I didn't read into it tho. WTF man, people are trying to save you and you're trying to gun down the rescue mission? argh...

Posted by E2EK1EL on Sep-01-2005 15:28:

Americans are really messed up ... why would you do this at such a time?

The gov helped you and you took shelter in the SuperDome, and then you guys rushed out to roit and loot things. Even shotdown a helicopter too.

Posted by Stingray on Sep-01-2005 16:02:

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Originally posted by Orko
I just saw a report that they had to abandon rescue efforts for people in the Super Dome, because the military helicopter was shot at!!!

Idiots! I have a friend thats stuck in the dome.

What kind of moron would shoot at a rescue helicopter?

Posted by muzzybear on Sep-01-2005 16:06:

Why rebuild the city, too? Just relocate everyone. It's hurricane central down there! Just like LA.... who builds a city on a fault line!

Americans hold onto their history too much (and Canadians tear it all down... exhibition stadium RIP!)

Posted by Orko on Sep-01-2005 18:44:

Re: The water is on fire (Hurricane aftermath)

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Originally posted by tatgirl
CNN is showing some live video coverage of a fire IN THE WATER!

part of the problem:

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A run-away oil drilling platform called is washed ashore on the Dauphin Island shores in Alabama. High winds and waves from Hurricane Katrina broke the rig from its moorings and pushed it ashore.

Posted by MarkT on Sep-01-2005 19:02:

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Originally posted by Skipper
I'm not surprised. there are oil spills all throughout the city.

this whole thing baffles me. it's like thomas hobbes' state of nature.

I was thinking the same thing...

not to sound cold, but I wonder how people defend their ridiculous gun culture now. Congrats, you have your "right to bear arms"...which means so many stores, like Wal-Mart, sell guns. Well now they've all been looted, putting hundreds or thousands more guns into the hands of criminals and even ordinary citizens...with authorities having to abandon search and rescue efforts to curb the roaming bands of thugs...that's terrible.

The lack of basic morality and compassion on the part of some people in these situations is deeply disturbing...

Posted by AwakenedAddict on Sep-01-2005 20:58:

OK, to all you people who are so fond of bashing Americans. Just remember these people are from the SOUTH. Nuff said.

Posted by VERTiG0 on Sep-01-2005 21:04:

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
OK, to all you people who are so fond of bashing Americans. Just remember these people are from the SOUTH. Nuff said.

DIRTAY SOUF NUCKA

Posted by nusty on Sep-01-2005 21:12:

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
OK, to all you people who are so fond of bashing Americans. Just remember these people are from the SOUTH. Nuff said.

care to explain?

Posted by arek on Sep-01-2005 21:17:

Posted by VERTiG0 on Sep-01-2005 21:21:

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Originally posted by arek

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH OH GOD

Posted by Sean Cassidy on Sep-01-2005 21:26:

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Originally posted by arek

terrible fucking reporting...........WTF!

Posted by loca on Sep-01-2005 21:31:

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Originally posted by arek

HAHAHAHAHAHAA i know i shouldn't laugh but damn

Posted by loca on Sep-01-2005 21:35:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09...ws/evacuate.php

Is it me or does the date from that article say Friday Sept 2nd?? Is today Friday????

Posted by AwakenedAddict on Sep-01-2005 23:23:

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Originally posted by nusty
care to explain?

Well it's an awful generalization on my part, not all Southerners are ignorant. But the truth remains that the American south is the region of the US with the lowest income, least education and highest birthrates (kinda like a 3rd world country in our backyard). Add that to a legacy of segregation and civil rights abuses and the picture is made quite clear.

Ohh and I'm American by the way.

Posted by Halycon on Sep-02-2005 04:30:

based upon what i've seen from various new reports, US and other wise. Snipers shooting as attempted Evacs from hospitals, pilaging, armed gangs running around, Gangs of boys/men running around Raping women. this may sound cold hearted and cruel. but Let them die.

rescue those who want it, and let the rest kill them selves off. why risk lives attempting to save those who want to live in anarchy.

Posted by tatgirl on Sep-02-2005 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Halycon
based upon what i've seen from various new reports, US and other wise. Snipers shooting as attempted Evacs from hospitals, pilaging, armed gangs running around, Gangs of boys/men running around Raping women. this may sound cold hearted and cruel. but Let them die.

rescue those who want it, and let the rest kill them selves off. why risk lives attempting to save those who want to live in anarchy.

It ain't 'just that simple'. We can't even BEGIN to understand what they're going thru, or how the human mind reacts after days of these horrific conditions. No, there is no excuse for rape or armed gangs running around. Everyone is fending for themself now. No one is REALLY in control down there. The gov'ts slow response is appalling.

I think those oil moguls in the middle east should step up to the plate and pledge relief funds, since they're the ones who are reaping the benefits of this mess.

Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-02-2005 10:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Halycon
based upon what i've seen from various new reports, US and other wise. Snipers shooting as attempted Evacs from hospitals, pilaging, armed gangs running around, Gangs of boys/men running around Raping women. this may sound cold hearted and cruel. but Let them die.

rescue those who want it, and let the rest kill them selves off. why risk lives attempting to save those who want to live in anarchy.

i don't think it's fair to cast off the lives of thousands of innocent people due to the actions of a group of criminals who are trying to exploit an already desperate situation. i think what's lacking these days is a considerable sense of humanity in this often troubled world. heaven help those who are actually trying to pull through this awful mess. it's just unfortunate that most of the victims of this disaster are no doubt the poor and destitute who in all likelihood had no means of leaving the city when the evacuation warnings were given. i guess this is what happens when u spend too much time worrying about what's going on in other countries and not enough time on trying to fix problems in one's own backyard. just like tatgirl said, it's not that simple when u really think about it.

Posted by Tunnel Rat on Sep-02-2005 15:20:

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Originally posted by tatgirl
It ain't 'just that simple'. We can't even BEGIN to understand what they're going thru, or how the human mind reacts after days of these horrific conditions. No, there is no excuse for rape or armed gangs running around. Everyone is fending for themself now. No one is REALLY in control down there. The gov'ts slow response is appalling.

I think those oil moguls in the middle east should step up to the plate and pledge relief funds, since they're the ones who are reaping the benefits of this mess.

Makes you wonder what went on over in Thailand after the tsunami? This stuff didn't seem to happen (to this degree), or maybe it just wasn't reported.
Regardless, I think this behavior occuring in the only supposed super-power nation in the world is unexcuseable. They may be a superpower, but I question their civility. The lack of response from the Feds. is alarming. Here is a very candid radio interview with the major of NO.
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2005/09/02/wwl.nagin.intv.affl

Posted by ghetto_fab on Sep-02-2005 15:56:

I have seen alot of stuff on the news and read alot of New Orleans.

Buts horrific to think people (guys) are raping women when they Know that they are going to get away with it. Its just Gross!!! What the hell is up with them shooting at the helicopters for??? dont you think its just retarded of then?!?!? Hiyo. If people are breaking into stores to get food im totally fine with that. but when they are stealing Tvs dvd players and shit like that those are the people that should not get anything. I just heard that they are expecting another hurrican that possible could hit New Orleans again its ojust east of florida and that now hurrican Jill I do believe........ if it hits say good bye to alot more people.

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