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Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-03-2005 05:25:

recording at home

I wanted to get some detailed explanations of how to record from my tables to my pc.

On the back of my PC I have 2 free USB ports, a "mic" port, and a "line in" port.

On the back of my mixer I have the outputs set to my monitor speakers. I'm confused of how I get to record my mix onto my computer while still being able to hear the sound live through the monitors. Pics of cables used or good descriptions would help me a lot. I'm horrible with electronics.


Posted by Allied Nations on Sep-03-2005 06:42:

get an RCA (red and white) to 1/4 inch (Small Headphone jack) and plug it into your line in on your cpu.


Posted by Dj_Es-Dva on Sep-03-2005 10:31:

just to confirm from what i understand you then have to use software to record the linein sound right?

saves me asking the question when i get turntables


Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-03-2005 15:47:

ok so the red and white plugs connect to the output on my mixer? If I do this i wont be able to hear my mix live through the speakers. Sounds like I would have to mix everything through headphones.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-03-2005 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
ok so the red and white plugs connect to the output on my mixer? If I do this i wont be able to hear my mix live through the speakers. Sounds like I would have to mix everything through headphones.

You mean you don't have "master" and "record" outputs in your mixer?


Posted by Allied Nations on Sep-03-2005 16:57:

yeah, everyones mixer should have at least 2 places where sound signals leave it...

my numark has 4-

record
master
balanced (for teh big plugs)
headphone jack (for cueing)

yours should have at least 2...plus the headphone out..


Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-03-2005 17:44:

here is the back of my mixer....


Posted by dark_Omens on Sep-03-2005 18:43:

hmmm, it looks like you are going to have to do things the difficult way then. I would buy two of these (or something similar - one for each channel to split it)

http://www.svideo.com/2frca1mrca.html

That should allow you to run to multiple sources. Then you just need all the wires.

Which programs do you guys use to record? Any free ones?


Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-03-2005 18:51:

where do those splitters connect on the back of the mixer. Do I connect the splitters to the white or to the red holes on each channel?


Posted by sw1 on Sep-03-2005 22:44:

Be careful with splitters because you can get feedback now that you'll have a direct connection from your monitor speakers to your computer as well.


Posted by sr126 on Sep-04-2005 00:33:

stalker, plug the splitters into your master outs. one into the white one, and one in the red one.

what you are doing is turning one master out, into two master outs. -one for your monitor, and one for recording.

seeing that there is just a little bit of space back there, you will have the connectors in 9oclock, and 3oclock position. plug the cables that will go to the monitor in the right side (3 oclock) and the then plug the cables going to your computer to the left side (9oclock) or vice versa, for the sake organization, don't criss-cross your cables, or plug them in diagnaly.

if your soundcard has a line out (it should, since that's where the speakers are connected to.) you can plug your mixer directly to the computer, w/out adapters, then use an adapter to connect the monitor to the line out on your sound card. -i would recommend you do it this way. splitters may add noise to your mix. you may also have to compensate by boosting your levels because of the splitters.

if possible, upgrade your mixer.


Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-04-2005 01:24:

ya i know im running on a nub mixer here. any suggestions of the next step up that would be more recording friendly?


Posted by sr126 on Sep-04-2005 01:47:

i would suggest the vestax vmc line. i feel that they offer the best in terms of sound/build quality for the price. they are pretty stripped down and basic compared to other mixers that are available for the same price, but at least it's solid, and sounds good.

i'm using the vmc-004 right now. i have 2 master outs, and they can be controlled individually.


Posted by trancecadet on Sep-04-2005 14:46:

I had that mixer till I got my stanton. I used to record from my amp instead. Use the headphone jack if the amp doesnt have a dedecated line out.

im guessing here your using an amp and monitors for sound output and not the lappy. As for sound recording software try here


Posted by s3nate on Sep-04-2005 17:31:

Numark's DXM01 USB mixer is pretty good for recording.


Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-04-2005 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Numark's DXM01 USB mixer is pretty good for recording.


and this one has two master outs? and it looks like this one connects to your USB and not your "line in" on the back of the computer?


Posted by jdat on Sep-05-2005 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
and this one has two master outs? and it looks like this one connects to your USB and not your "line in" on the back of the computer?



It has a master out and a record out.

You also have the option of plugging it into your computer directly through USB so you don't have any issues with Line In etc but you can still record through line in using the record out if you prefer that.


Posted by Vorian on Sep-06-2005 20:56:

come on...

Get TWO RCA to Mini Stereo cables.
Output to your computer's line in.
Output from your computer's speaker output to your amp/speakers/wherever you'd plug the mixer into.

then google 'Goldwave', use that to record your set.

done and done.


Posted by alligator on Sep-06-2005 21:07:

there's one thing you might want to take a look at....when you record make sure that you don't overdue the input into the computer b/c then it wont' record anything...
i recall last time i recorded something i had to have the volume from my mixer that was running into the computer/laptop almost at minimum so it won't overdue the software and be to powerful (loud...).

if you don't run into that while spliting you should be fine...if you do run into that...see if the software you are recording into has the option of having the speakers out ...and use the computer also as an output for your monitors.


if all else fails...got spent $200 and get a mixer with 2 outputs...


Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-06-2005 22:51:

I'm getting the DXM01 USB mixer. There is an option to buy it with two USB cables (for 2 channel mixing it says). So im assuming that I have to buy the two cabled option if I plan on laying a set down?

Its confusing because...wouldnt everyone HAVE to get the 2 USB cables in order to record? I have a USB port on the front and back of my computer. So I hope it is going to work hooked up like that. For some reason I see something just not working.


Posted by Vorian on Sep-07-2005 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by alligator
there's one thing you might want to take a look at....when you record make sure that you don't overdue the input into the computer b/c then it wont' record anything...
i recall last time i recorded something i had to have the volume from my mixer that was running into the computer/laptop almost at minimum so it won't overdue the software and be to powerful (loud...).


That's why you use the MASTER output and control the levels with not only your computer device, but your MASTER volume control, and you don't have to turn the gains way down.


Posted by xstalkrx on Sep-07-2005 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Vorian
come on...

Get TWO RCA to Mini Stereo cables.
Output to your computer's line in.
Output from your computer's speaker output to your amp/speakers/wherever you'd plug the mixer into.

then google 'Goldwave', use that to record your set.

done and done.


i cant output two rca cords to one line in. plus i'd ahve to get splitters to even do that on the nubbish mixer i have now. ive decided with the usb numark one. i just need to know whether i have to go with the 2 USB cord package or the single.


Posted by Vorian on Sep-07-2005 04:29:

...
splitter/joiner/whatever.
it's a connector that will turn your RCA output into an input your computer accepts. then you just output to your amp/speakers the same way. you can go buy your USB numark if you want... wait for shipping... and probably pay more, when you can have it done in an hour by going to radio shack.

*shrug*

LoL



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