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by the time a track hits the record store is it to late?

by the time a track hits a record store or goes online, is it already to late to be unoticed?if its a big track, i can only asume that this track would have already been played out, and floating around for months before it ever hits stores.......????

pretty much, yes. sometimes you find a gem that no one had heard of, but usually by the time its pressed to a full release, its been out for a while.

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Originally posted by CosmoKid pretty much, yes. sometimes you find a gem that no one had heard of, but usually by the time its pressed to a full release, its been out for a while.

well your goin to the wrong record shops

good record shops will sell a wide veriety of stuff, not just big releases! they buy a lot of upfront promos and unreleased tunes too, you just need to get out there and look for them.

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Originally posted by wee_rooney well your goin to the wrong record shops good record shops will sell a wide veriety of stuff, not just big releases! they buy a lot of upfront promos and unreleased tunes too, you just need to get out there and look for them.

True

Too late for what? Good music is good music. If you like a track, you should buy it and forget about who else is playing it.

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Originally posted by FirstBorn Too late for what? Good music is good music. If you like a track, you should buy it and forget about who else is playing it.

My exact sentiments.

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Originally posted by FirstBorn Too late for what? Good music is good music. If you like a track, you should buy it and forget about who else is playing it.

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Originally posted by FirstBorn Too late for what? Good music is good music. If you like a track, you should buy it and forget about who else is playing it.

this post could be inserted ina thousand dif threads

Re: by the time a track hits the record store is it to late?

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Originally posted by MR STROKE by the time a track hits a record store or goes online, is it already to late to be unoticed?if its a big track, i can only asume that this track would have already been played out, and floating around for months before it ever hits stores.......????

You've gotta remember it's in the interest of the label to sell as many copies as possible, so if they've got a good tune on their hands they're gonna do their best to get it to as many big DJs as possible, which isn't particularly difficult, so the chances are some of them will start playing it if it's good.

Obviously there are exceptions. A lot of the time when I find a really good I think is a bit exclusive, I then suddenly find everyone knows about it! If you can find tracks that are usually being played in sets of other genres that would work in your sets, that's a way to bring something people might not have heard, even if it's quite a well-known tune in another scene - plus it gives a bit more variety and a slightly more original sound to your sets.

But I couldn't agree more than with the "if it's a good tune, play it" comment.

It would help if the average dj didn't consider spinning exclusively what he had seen in other djs tracklists.

It kills me when people just try to buy something cause every top jock is playing it.


Why did crate digging ever have to stop ?

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Originally posted by jdat It would help if the average dj didn't consider spinning exclusively what he had seen in other djs tracklists. It kills me when people just try to buy something cause every top jock is playing it. Why did crate digging ever have to stop ?

i never dl livesets. only buy albums and make a point to nearly never look at the tracks. i just hunt tunes down and im still cratediggin!!

its not dead yet.

Thats why I feel that digital is the future, because DJs can get the tracks they want much faster. Sure there are whitelabels out there, and professional DJs get copies of records months before they are released. Sometimes it takes 6 months to a year for tunes to come out, on either vinyl or MP3/WMA etc. It would make sense for more tunes to come out on MP3/WMA first and then vinyl, since it is so easy to post tracks on the net, but takes longer to press a record. For us amatuers, unless we want to play "old" stuff (and I put that in quotes because it seems like anything that has been out for 6 months or more is "old") then digital is the way to go......

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Originally posted by jdat Why did crate digging ever have to stop ?

I crate-dig all the time, at both real record shops and online shops. I'll spend about five hours in my local shop every couple of weeks just digging, and even then I might come across just one tune that I've heard of elsewhere.

It's fun.

i don't think it's too late, but i also think it depends on what style you play. if you play what armin plays...well yes...but if you play good music then you can find a ton of tracks that nobody knows.

It's particularly difficult in the UK hard dance scene (I sometimes play bits of hard trance)... just about everything is made by the same handful of engineers - literally less than a dozen of them - and then they all come out on the same labels, so someone with their ear to the ground will literally know every single release.

As the scene has been getting a bit weaker recently, it's not really viable for new labels to start, or ones that do just release tracks digitally, a lot of which aren't really worth having because they're just by unsigned artists who couldn't get signed to vinyl labels because they're not good enough!

I dont have a problem with picking tracks from a big-name dj's playlist, as long as youre doing it becuase you like the song, as far as those who do it to be 'just like armin', well, have fun doing the V in your bedroom. You just have to realize that if you play what theyre playing its not going to set you apart from the other amatuer djs..

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Originally posted by darkSIde I dont have a problem with picking tracks from a big-name dj's playlist, as long as youre doing it becuase you like the song

true. sometimes there's a track that really stands out in a playlist that you just gotta id, and then go buy..

beatport is the way to be.

its cool when your the first to review a new thread by somone on the amature producers forum, and its a cracker! all my favourite stuff at the mo is coming from forums. you just need to request a high bitrate version before everyone else does... take romi: technological world. currently one of the most popular on the ta forum. its quality and will probably get picked up by a decent label. or at least be played by some big names. digital is the way forward! providing the bitrate is good.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Thats why I feel that digital is the future, because DJs can get the tracks they want much faster. Sure there are whitelabels out there, and professional DJs get copies of records months before they are released. Sometimes it takes 6 months to a year for tunes to come out, on either vinyl or MP3/WMA etc. It would make sense for more tunes to come out on MP3/WMA first and then vinyl, since it is so easy to post tracks on the net, but takes longer to press a record. For us amatuers, unless we want to play "old" stuff (and I put that in quotes because it seems like anything that has been out for 6 months or more is "old") then digital is the way to go......

a label in a rush can get a vinyl pressed, promoted, designed, and to the record stores in less than 3 weeks

the average solid label has a release schedule of about 1 vinyl a month.

that's not a long time.

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