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Posted by ShadyLane on Sep-12-2005 20:12:

what is trance??

i dont get it. how do you tell the difference between trance and house and techno and drum and bass....i dont get it. anywys if you could help me out.


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-12-2005 20:18:

great question. i mean...it just sounds like a lot of beats and noise to me


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-12-2005 20:25:

Re: what is trance??

quote:
Originally posted by ShadyLane
i dont get it. how do you tell the difference between trance and house and techno and drum and bass....i dont get it. anywys if you could help me out.


Well, you listen to lots of tracks, find out what style they are, and join the fucking dots.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Sep-12-2005 20:27:

Re: what is trance??

quote:
Originally posted by ShadyLane
i dont get it. how do you tell the difference between trance and house and techno and drum and bass....i dont get it. anywys if you could help me out.


for starters BPMs (i know some may disagree). also the structure of the beat.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Sep-12-2005 20:28:

Re: Re: what is trance??

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well, you listen to lots of tracks, find out what style they are, and join the fucking dots.


your wisdom is neverending.


Posted by Ted Promo on Sep-12-2005 20:37:

So you joined a site that says you're addicted to something you can't even define?

What a weird world you must live in.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Sep-12-2005 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
So you joined a site that says you're addicted to something you can't even define?

What a weird world you must live in.


ok trancemaster. because you're member here, it's safe to assume (as you do) that one should be able to define trance accurately. define it then for all of eternity. henceforth, when someone asks what trance is, we shall point to your definition. well...?


Posted by Project 7 on Sep-12-2005 20:51:

theres lots of genre explanations over teh net


Posted by MarathonMan on Sep-12-2005 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
ok trancemaster. because you're member here, it's safe to assume (as you do) that one should be able to define trance accurately. define it then for all of eternity. henceforth, when someone asks what trance is, we shall point to your definition. well...?


Trance is undefinable, maaaaaaan!!!!


Posted by Mortyman on Sep-12-2005 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
ok trancemaster. because you're member here, it's safe to assume (as you do) that one should be able to define trance accurately. define it then for all of eternity. henceforth, when someone asks what trance is, we shall point to your definition. well...?


I'll do it for him


Trance ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trns)
n.
A hypnotic, cataleptic, or ecstatic state.
Detachment from one's physical surroundings, as in contemplation or daydreaming.
A semiconscious state, as between sleeping and waking; a daze.

tr.v. tranced, tranc�ing, tranc�es
To put into a trance; entrance.


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[Middle English traunce, from Old French transe, passage, fear, vision, from transir, to die, be numb with fear, from Latin trnsre, to go over or across. See transient.]
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trancelike adj.

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trance (trns)
n.

An altered state of consciousness as in hypnosis, catalepsy, or ecstasy.


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Main Entry: trance
Pronunciation: 'tran(t)s
Function: noun
1 : a state of partly suspended animation or inability to function
2 : a somnolent state (as of deep hypnosis) characterized by limited sensory and motor contact with one's surroundings and subsequent lack of recall �trance�like /-"lIk/ adjective


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trance

n 1: a psychological state induced by (or as if induced by) a magical incantation [syn: enchantment, spell] 2: a state of mind in which consciousness is fragile and voluntary action is poor or missing; a state resembling deep sleep v : attract; cause to be enamored; "She captured all the men's hearts" [syn: capture, enamour, catch, becharm, enamor, captivate, beguile, charm, fascinate, bewitch, entrance, enchant]


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Trancemaster makes a very valid point though.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Sep-12-2005 21:26:

repitition + engagement = trance

trance is the repetitive stuff that we like , it is also one of the many fragments of electronic music, you pretty much learn what is what as you listen, you come up with your idea of how a given tune is classified, you talk about it here, others disagree with your classification. There turns out to be no standard way of classifying so that doesnt really mean you are wrong and somebody else is right, everyone will classify stuff a different way.

dont worry about it so much


Posted by KaOtiK1 on Sep-12-2005 21:30:

listen lets say a song from sasha then to tiesto then to bad boy bill then to carl cox then to danny howells then to ATB then bounce over to erick morillo and you will tell the difference


Posted by jdat on Sep-12-2005 21:34:

big breakdowns, queer lyrics, hands flying up with a slight breeze in your hair.


Posted by chrisxanthus on Sep-13-2005 00:24:

Trance music is music that puts you in a trance state of mind. If it doesn't put you in a trance, maybe it's not trance music.


Posted by washout on Sep-13-2005 00:50:

Re: what is trance??

quote:
Originally posted by ShadyLane
i dont get it. how do you tell the difference between trance and house and techno and drum and bass....i dont get it. anywys if you could help me out.

house - hard repititous beats, usually to a club style.
drum & bass - exactly what it says.
techno - all encompassing digitally created music.
trance - laid back "dreamy" id call it form of techno.

the important thing is this.
any song can have house parts, trancy parts, beat parts.
usually no one song can be descibed under one genre.

quote:
Originally posted by chrisxanthus
Trance music is music that puts you in a trance state of mind. If it doesn't put you in a trance, maybe it's not trance music.

thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard.
when my friends get in my car and i got shit playing they joke "dude im in a trance man."


Posted by Aquarian on Sep-13-2005 01:05:

It's a melody and emotion driven form of EDM that follows a strict structure and set of keys, borrows many elements of techno, but keeps a classical-style melodic structure, and is characterized by smooth transitions between elements.

Another way of defining it would be of comparing it to similar genres that aren't trance. For example: Techno is colder, more neutral, and more abstract. House is more groove-oriented, usually more repetitive, and far less melodic.


Posted by Nayil on Sep-13-2005 02:06:

Trance is better than Techno


Posted by Axolotyl on Sep-13-2005 06:53:

Well you see, Trance is like the form of EDM thats supposed to put you into a trance like state where by your not really aware of time, space, yourself or your surroundings. OK, fair enough...

...but...

...somehow these dutch guys got ahold of the concept and turned it into this really loud pounding kickdrum thing with girls singing and stuff and this really long bit where nothing happens so even if you were in a trance to begin with, you've been snapped right out of it by the sudden silence.

but fuck, who knows how the subconscious of a dutchman works. Maybe it's sending them straight to the gates or Nirvana which is probably why they all have such strange looking heads come to think of it...


Posted by Omega_Blue on Sep-13-2005 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MarathonMan
Trance is undefinable, maaaaaaan!!!!


yeeeaahhh dooood.... the utter definition of trance is such a MINDFUCK!!!!


i'm not going to try to define it, but here's some examples of the genres..

trance - listen to paul van dyk
house - depending on the genre, try Eric Morillo, bad boy bill, mark farina
techno - mauro picotto or laurent garnier, carl cox on occasion
drum and bass - dj rap, andy c, or roni size
breaks - adam freeland, evil nine, plump dj's

you'll hear the difference after listening to it for a while. but there's so many different types and subgenres of EDM, it's hard to define any of them. that's why all the elitists who posted ^above are talking shit


Posted by Apollo303 on Sep-13-2005 16:56:

Re: what is trance??

quote:
Originally posted by ShadyLane
i dont get it. how do you tell the difference between trance and house and techno and drum and bass....i dont get it. anywys if you could help me out.


Well me ol' friend...I've been there , and I have been through it all and I compose music from all the genres you pointed to ... well I suggest you listen to DJ Tiesto as a definition of what trance is , try to figure out what all the music share , and you may try people like BT as a definition of Techno , and for any further clarifications , I will be glad to reply ...

greets


Posted by RickyM on Sep-13-2005 18:26:

As far as I'm aware Trance used to be more like goa trance initially, the earliest trance songs weren't anything like the trance today - with the supersaws and the breakdown-buildup formula - either this is how trance has evolved, or it isn't actually trance music


Posted by WojiePoj on Sep-13-2005 19:27:

what is life?lol

techno is gay and trance is amazing thats the diff


Posted by bananas on Sep-13-2005 19:45:

trance is the shit, in the bad kind of way.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-13-2005 19:59:

Long live pretentious, boring "IDM" eh?


Posted by Alekos on Sep-13-2005 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
great question. i mean...it just sounds like a lot of beats and noise to me

lol


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