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Posted by clubsolutely on Dec-19-2001 21:45:

What Is DUB ?

until now i thought DUB mix is a track without vocals...well i realized i wrong when i heard the v dub of marco v's godd.. so tell me what is DUB ??

Posted by Blik on Dec-19-2001 22:00:

less vocals

Posted by boy_luke_y2k on Dec-19-2001 22:11:

Normally that is the case but on my Temple Of Dreams vinyl it says that the dub is the one with the vocals and the club is the one without

Posted by pixyjunket on Dec-19-2001 22:20:

well those are not rules set in stone or something.. but yes dub means less vocals.. instrumental means none.. sometimes dubs are no vocals.. it just depends on who's naming it and writing it.. *shrug*

Posted by Cable on Dec-19-2001 23:02:

i also thought it was less vocals until i heard the dub of godd, so i have no idea whatsoever wtf a dub is

Posted by Pjotr G on Dec-20-2001 07:05:

On Secret Cinema Volt! vinyl there is
Secret Cinema - Rebounce
Secret Cinema - Rebounce (dub)

NEITHER have ANY vocals at all....not even a scream or sigh

so less vocals doesn't fly

Posted by Flippe on Dec-20-2001 07:08:

think it is hard to say what DUb is exactly@

Posted by fastmp3 on Dec-20-2001 07:18:

like pinxyjunket said , there are no rules

but GENERALLY , dub is known as less vocals (like the others said before me)

Posted by justin on Dec-20-2001 08:43:

im gonna make a cd with vocals on every track and then every song is gonna be called dub version this and dub version that. then ill be a cool dj like the rest of them.

Posted by Kia Kaha on Dec-20-2001 14:49:

Dub's actually an old, old music style which is kind of a pre cursor to reggae.

In the really old Jamaican recording studios of the '40s and '50s, prior to multi track recording, the backing band would often record a really simple bass'n'drums version of the song they wanted to record, and then play it back through headphones to help them keep the beat while they were recording the 'good' take of the song. This minimal version of the song became known as the 'dub' version.

Somewhere along the way, it became cool when releasing the single, to include the 'dub' version on the other side of the record, and from there it kind of grew into a musical style of its own.

Leading proponents of the style included King Tubby, the Upsetters, and Lee Scratch Perry.

Nowadays, it's cool to call any remix of a dance song that's fairly bass'n'drum heavy with minimal vocals or frills, a 'dub' version.

Posted by clubsolutely on Dec-20-2001 15:34:

i see... so are we all agree that dub is the minimal version of the track.. with or without vocals right?

Posted by Pjotr G on Dec-20-2001 16:59:

aye, I knew the reggae-term dub, didn't relate it to dance-dub tho

"riddem"
just drumtrack and bass of a reggae track

Posted by NiTro on Dec-20-2001 18:02:

i also thought it had no or less vocals and some more bass

Posted by Jason R on Dec-20-2001 18:39:

IN GRAFFITI A DUB MEANS A PEICE THAT IS YOUR TYPICAL PICTURE
PEICE BUT HAS NO BACKGROUND BUT HAS COLOUR UNLIKE A THROWUP AND
CAN BE ANY COLOUR UNLIKE A SLAP WHICH IS ONLY SILVER AND GREY.
SO ALOUGH THAT'S NOT THE ANWSER YOU WANT AS IT'S GOT NOTHING
TO DO WITH THIS POST IT'S THE ONE U GOT.

Posted by SmellsExcellent on Dec-20-2001 21:01:

its a simple equation...

Sublime - Brad Nowell = Long Beach Dub Allstars

Posted by Kia Kaha on Dec-21-2001 10:59:

quote:
Originally posted by SmellsExcellent
its a simple equation...

Sublime - Brad Nowell = Long Beach Dub Allstars

I didn't even know that ... man I used to love Sublime a few years back ... learned to play the bass guitar just so I could play Sublime songs ... I was so gutted when that dude killed himself. I'll have to go and look for some of these Long Beach Dub Allstars now.

Posted by Serp on Dec-21-2001 12:41:

I think DUB means either an original or a remake by the original artist, sort of like a 'second version'

Posted by trintiy on Dec-21-2001 16:13:

Kia Kaha wrote it best but to elabotate, a "DUB" is basically the original "hook" and B-line looped over and over without introducing new elements to the song.

In terms of dance music production, songs are generally started with a Dub (the main hook and b-line), it's the artist first crack at a song, usually after listening to the Dub, he/she begins to add new elements to the song to make it complete.