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The Effect that BT uses

Dear All...
I really got a bit noisy and I really wanted to know what effect(s)/Generator(s) that BT had used used in pieces like Kimosibe and the piece that he produced for N'SYNC called Pop , it's a kind of Granulizer or something like it , I guess the guys who listen to those particular pieces recognized what the hell this brilliant man is doing with the vocals...

If you mean the stutter effect, then it will be a vocoder/granulizer...

That said, he uses so many weird things its untrue. Routing sound through an old tv and microwave to give it an analogue sound.

okay thats bollocks, but the stuff he does is mind boggling. Hence why his productions sound so unique.

BT is a big advocate of Kyma - from what I hear he can spend hours on a second of vocals :P

Good stutters are almost always done by hand, not with cheap plugins like the granulizer. Don't get me wrong, granular synthesis can produce some pretty cool effects, but they won't even come close to what you hear from BT/Hybrid/etc. They also use a lot of math-music plugins, or so I've heard - I have no clue how to use those and don't have any desire to learn.

And yes, BT does have a lot of tricks up his sleeve. He's one of the most brilliant producers in existence, so good luck trying to duplicate his effects with Fruityloops' native plugins.

I read an article wich BT stated one of his not so Hidden Techniques was the use of Logic Pro 7's Tape Granulizer ... so If your looking for wich Granulizer it is ... Check out Logic Pro 7 ... Other than That ... Go to Yahoo or Google and Search for BT Production Techniques and Dig up the articles I did ... He uses a suitcase full of VSTi's and Techniques That I could Only Hope to stumble across ...

Another hint BT got around to ... ACID Pro 4 is his Best friend when It comes to the stutter effect ... only problem is I don't see how ... he says he "NanoSamples" wich goes beyond what ACID Pro 4 or 5 can sample across ... 128 Samples - 212 Samples is what he considers "NanoSampling" ...

Good Luck

everyone always talks about bt, but ive never heard anything from him, and i call myself a ta........ his music must really suck

He's not a Trance Producer ... but the Most innovative General Electronica Artist Alive ... before I can allow you to post again ( J/K ) you gotta go download or buy a BT album ... any BT album ... and see whats up with him ... I promise if you like Electronic Music ... You'll like BT ...

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Originally posted by GreenLight He's not a Trance Producer ... but the Most innovative General Electronica Artist Alive ... before I can allow you to post again ( J/K ) you gotta go download or buy a BT album ... any BT album ... and see whats up with him ... I promise if you like Electronic Music ... You'll like BT ...

Not just electronic music - he's been behind some of the biggest overnight successes in the mainstream music world as well (think N'Sync).

also, don't forget the few movie scores he's composed over the years.
I've read a few of his interviews, and heard one or two when he's been interviewed on a movie score- The guy is definitely knows his stuff and is a true studio geek... seems like the type that doesn't really follow rules, but sets his own standards. I'm surprised that he is so talented on both the engineering end and composing end of music. Usually, artists tend to be one sided, or dominant in one much more than the other

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Originally posted by Thois everyone always talks about bt, but ive never heard anything from him, and i call myself a ta........ his music must really suck

Yes, of course. Everyone you haven't heard of must suck. I mean it's just common sense.

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Originally posted by Thois everyone always talks about bt, but ive never heard anything from him, and i call myself a ta........ his music must really suck

you call yourself a TA but you have never heard of anything by BT?

strip yourself of the title 'tranceaddict' right away.

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Originally posted by Thois everyone always talks about bt, but ive never heard anything from him, and i call myself a ta........ his music must really suck

You haven't heard of me and I rock!

On a more serious note BT is one of the most rock'n electronic artists I have come across. His Albumn "Movement in Still Life" still blows me away with its intricasies. He also did the score to the movie "Monster" with charlize theron and I believe "Go" also.

Three tracks of his worth listening to imho:

BT - Namestai (colloborated with Paul Van Dyk)
BT - Dreaming
BT - Fibonacci Sequence

Electric Sky Church Music got me into trance haha...as i type this im looking at my Emotional Technology poster signed by BT.

Anyways, I think i read an article where he would record his guitar parts when he was downstairs and the mic was upstairs or something crazy like that...i didnt understand but its weird

also wasnt it him who was credited to first use the reverse reverb effect?

BT is a god. I wrote an essay all about him and his techniques for one of my projects and got a I. 'Av it.

My fav is "Running down the way up" Vocals, guitar, stuttering effect jobby, beats all spine tingling.

Anyway back to the point - The stuttering effect. The mathematical name for this is the coefficient of restitution. I read in an interview that BT was fascinated by the sound a ball bearing made on a glass table as it bounced to a standstill, and that is what he recreated.

As to how he does it........?

I did it once by cutting the wave form and moving it about and doing it by ear. Took freakin aaaages.

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Originally posted by whiterex His Albumn "Movement in Still Life" still blows me away with its intricasies.

Dude, that album KICKS ASS! The only thing I hate about it is that ever since I started producing, I realize how much I suck when I listen to it. I was starting to think that *no one* else had even heard of that album!

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BT - Fibonacci Sequence

TUNE! That track was at least 5 years ahead of its time, now *all* the professional breaks producers are starting to move toward that style.

BT is the guy I look up to production wise... One thing about BT you'll find interesting is that you'll NEVER find an average track by him ... it's always top notch shit atleast 5 years ahead of its time. His tracks are amazing in every sense of the word. I agree with Diginut..Fibonacci Sequence is a sick track and every breaks producer is out to create the NEXT fibonacci sequence.. Check out Madskillz Micchekka or Knowledge Of Self.. now.. those tracks have MEATY, THICK AND PHAT basslines..

If I'm not totally mistaken he doesn't do the stutters by hand since he can use this effect live with a little help from a really cool optical device

It wouldn't suprise me if he's written his own plugins to do this kind of stuff, that would be a typical way for him to do stuff, 100% how he wan'ts it to work

And he's truly amazing, just listen to Last moment of clarity from his album emotional technology. It starts with raindrops that's real rain recorded and every raindrop is quantisized after a 256parts pattern
and then comes that cool morph when he mixes over from the outside to the inside, really cool effect and a good example of his amazing creativity

to put it short, BT is a genious, maybe even the bethoven or bach of todays time

A lot of his "stutters" are done by hand, but nowadays, he apparently has a couple custom tools that he and some other guys wrote (meaning, us poor bastards don't get to play ). I remember him mentioning that there's a circle of producers (including him, Sasha, and some others) that basically use the same tools and share all their shit.

Now. Who wants to hack THAT hub?

BT uses something called nano correction,i think thats what it is
Yeah,
BT is the king if u ask me !

BT is modern day Mozart, no doubt. He composed his first orchestral score at the age of 5! Here's an excellent read from SOS:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Dec...iantranseau.asp

On the "Emotional Technology" album he had a track that they were considering to enter in to the Guiness Book of World Records as the track with the most elements! One of the tracks is said to have over 1000 different elements.

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Originally posted by Vizay If I'm not totally mistaken he doesn't do the stutters by hand since he can use this effect live with a little help from a really cool optical device It wouldn't suprise me if he's written his own plugins to do this kind of stuff, that would be a typical way for him to do stuff, 100% how he wan'ts it to work And he's truly amazing, just listen to Last moment of clarity from his album emotional technology. It starts with raindrops that's real rain recorded and every raindrop is quantisized after a 256parts pattern and then comes that cool morph when he mixes over from the outside to the inside, really cool effect and a good example of his amazing creativity to put it short, BT is a genious, maybe even the bethoven or bach of todays time

You're probably referring to this article:
http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.as...&storycode=4449

He is trully a genous... and a little bit of a devil, too! I can't recall how many speeding tickets I got while blasting BT's "Godspeed" (from MISL). Stick that song into your CD player and you got your own soundrack for your own "the (maybe) fast and (somewhat) furious" movie, staring you!

The most amazing thing about BT is that you instantly recognize "his sound"... Yeah, I'd definitely love to hang out with him for a day or several thousand...

i must have been living beneath a rock or something, will try some of his stuff

BT may not make trance now, but he was one of the pioneers to forge it in early/mid nineties. Look up "Libra feat. Taylor" on Discogs and find about other monikers he used while he was making trance.

Tho, he is a bit too into himself, and often talks nonsense just to come out smarter and more l33t than thou.

For example "nano editing" makes no sense, there are hundreds of nanoseconds in between two consecutive samples in an audio clip. He is probably just reffering to edits at sample level. I also honestly doubt he made any software, or tools. He might have worked with people who did stuff as an advisor tho (like Ritchie Hawtin influenced development of Ableton Live etc.).

dblueGlitch, suppatrigga and even fruity granulizer could be used for some really cool stutter effects with some proper automation. Other than that, just add tiny (sub 1/16th) slices of teh same vocal with volume fadeouts and overlaps (for some flangey effect). It's not that difficult, it's just time consuming.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Good stutters are almost always done by hand, not with cheap plugins like the granulizer. Don't get me wrong, granular synthesis can produce some pretty cool effects, but they won't even come close to what you hear from BT/Hybrid/etc. They also use a lot of math-music plugins, or so I've heard - I have no clue how to use those and don't have any desire to learn. And yes, BT does have a lot of tricks up his sleeve. He's one of the most brilliant producers in existence, so good luck trying to duplicate his effects with Fruityloops' native plugins.

Hey dude , I don't only use the native FLoops Plugins , but if you think that native Fruity Loops Plugins don't rock , try to SEE software first , and see a music piece named MY BODY that is found in the folder "/Cool Stuff" and there you will see what a native plugin like the Fruity Granulizer can do to a vocal...

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Originally posted by peejunk It's not that difficult, it's just time consuming.

That's exactly the point.

You can get some okay results using granular synthesis plugins but you really have to know what you're doing, and if you know what you're doing then it's often easier just to do the edits and cuts by hand.

No software can automagically create stutters except maybe for math-music plugins. The reason is that not every part of a sound is "stutterable" - for vocals, it's almost always the plosive sounds that get the stutter, so only a correctly-programmed math-music plugin would actually be able to detect the plosives in an arbitrary vocal sound and sync it properly.

There are other ways of getting a sound to stutter of course, like fuzz or distortion, but again, all this stuff essentially involves doing the edits by hand. Apply some modulated pre-processing (flanger, fuzz, compression, filters, etc. with automated parameters over a few beats or bars), make the cuts, and apply envelopes and post-processing like reverb or delay to get rid of the harshness.

That still won't get it to sound like BT does, but honestly, if you haven't figured out yet how to do a basic stutter than trying to recreate BT or Hybrid is setting the bar way too high. Get some practice first, and the rest will come to you.

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Originally posted by Apollo303 Hey dude , I don't only use the native FLoops Plugins , but if you think that native Fruity Loops Plugins don't rock , try to SEE software first , and see a music piece named MY BODY that is found in the folder "/Cool Stuff" and there you will see what a native plugin like the Fruity Granulizer can do to a vocal...

No, sorry, the native FL plugins suck. People who don't listen very carefully often *think* that the granulizer can create those effects (I hear it all the time on this forum), but the effects you get are really quite different.

Granular synthesis <> stutters. GS is more like symmetric gating and enveloping.

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Originally posted by Thois everyone always talks about bt, but ive never heard anything from him, and i call myself a ta........ his music must really suck

Of course you have....

You've heard Somnambulist, haven't you?

Or what about LOVE COMES AGAIN?!

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