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Posted by Yan on Sep-16-2005 03:15:

The Nintendo Revolution

Iwata's Keynote Speech (Constantly Updated)

- Keynote begins at 7:00 PST.

- IGN editors wait.

- Readers scream for news.

- Iwata says Nintendo has built a bigger game population in three ways: Famicom Mini (shows commercials). GB Micro. Promises more shipments next week. Then he mentioned it was Mario's Birthday week. Miyamoto stands up. Number three, Iwata says, is Nintendo DS.

- Iwata mentions "touch generation" games such as Nintendogs and Brain Training.

- Nintendogs has topped one million units shipped in Japan already, according to Iwata.

- 60% of Nintendogs buyers picked up the game with a DS, according to Club Nintendo statistics.

- Iwata begins topic on how to build game population going forward.

- Giant Wi-Fi logo on screen in background. Iwata says he will reveal much more on next-generation Wi-Fi this October.

- IGN will post high-resolution pictures, hands on impressions, feature breakdowns, roundtables, and more at 7:50 PM -- fewer than 15 minutes.

- Revolution controller looks like futuristic television remote.

- Glossy white design.

- Looks Apple iPod inspired.

- Controller is held in one hand. Attachments in the other.

- Attachments connect to the bottom of the controller. Iwata shows analog stick attachment.

- Thinking about packing Revolution with the main controller and attachment, Iwata says.

- Controller acts like a mouse in real-space 3D. Pefect for FPS games!

- Future attachments planned.

The Revolution controller:















Click here for HIGH-RES shots (click on the picture when it loads to see the full version):

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http://img206.**************/my.php?...controller1.jpg

http://img206.**************/my.php?...controller2.jpg

Read all about it here: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId...1/651275p1.html

Main Controller Features

3D Pointing. Sensors understand up, down, left, right, forward and backward.

Tilt Sensitive. Controller can be rotated or rolled from side-to-side.

Buttons Included. Has a trigger on its backside, face buttons, and a D-Pad.

Multifunctional. Has an expansion port which can be used with different types of controller peripherals. Analog stick with two trigger buttons planned for left hand.

Wireless. Totally wire-free. Currently there are no details on the max distance, source or power, or otherwise.

Rumble Built-in. Included as a standard in all the controllers.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Sep-16-2005 04:06:

For an example of how you'd be able to play every type of game (from sports, to FPS games, to racing games, puzzle, etc etc) check out IGN's article:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p1.html

They give you an excellent example of how each type of game would work.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Sep-16-2005 16:38:

Could be extremely awesome, or pathetically terrible, though I for some reason think its going to be the former. I cant wait to try it out.


Posted by P4z! on Sep-16-2005 17:51:

Here's a teaser trailer for the Revolution controller:

Teaser trailer (17 mb, quicktime)

(if that doesn't work: here)

it looks totally awesome, I like the idea. As far as gaming concepts and design among these next-gen consoles, IMO the Revo takes the lead from now on, even though Nintendo isn't really trying to compete with ms and sony..

edit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...sedown/revo.swf LOL


Posted by flavdave on Sep-16-2005 18:29:

Looking more like XBox or PS3 for me. Sorry Nintendo, I'm not 8 years old anymore.


Posted by TigerClaw on Sep-17-2005 02:17:

I'm not a fan of these new type of controller, It looks like a freaken remote, Though I read on some page that they are planning on making classic style controllers for the Revolution, I think these new type of controllers would suck when playing fighting games and such.


Posted by P4z! on Sep-17-2005 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
I'm not a fan of these new type of controller, It looks like a freaken remote, Though I read on some page that they are planning on making classic style controllers for the Revolution, I think these new type of controllers would suck when playing fighting games and such.


well they had a perfectly good explanation for the remote-like design of the controller...

and for fighting games:



Don't know if it's official though


Posted by TigerClaw on Sep-17-2005 05:10:

I'm still not a fan of the whole wireless controller idea, Its an inconvenient having to go to the store to buy new batteries for the controller after they die out, Literally money out of your own pocket, And just for what, So you can play on the fucking controllers, Fuck that!


Posted by infinity HiGH on Sep-17-2005 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
Looking more like XBox or PS3 for me. Sorry Nintendo, I'm not 8 years old anymore.


8 years old? Dude, get over yourself! The idea is such a bold step forward in how video games will be played. Everything from Madden, to racing games, and especially FPS games will play a lot better on this. Just use your imagination a little. Imagine whatever your favourite game might be, but add in the fact that you can control the camera or whatever by soft gestures with your wrist. Or how hitting a ball in a tennis game might work.

And the whole wireless thing is sweet! But just so you know, the Revolution will use standard, wired Gamecube controllers as well.

Also, that image is a mock-up, but something like that will be released, a "docking bay" of sorts for the remote.


Posted by BiG MiKE on Sep-18-2005 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by P4z!
well they had a perfectly good explanation for the remote-like design of the controller...

and for fighting games:



Don't know if it's official though


I was just going to comment on that. Hopefully that idea goes through.


Posted by P4z! on Sep-18-2005 04:58:

a couple mock-ups of the possibilites with the extension ports:


The Lightgun


The Steering Wheel



Posted by flavdave on Sep-19-2005 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
8 years old? Dude, get over yourself! The idea is such a bold step forward in how video games will be played. Everything from Madden, to racing games, and especially FPS games will play a lot better on this. Just use your imagination a little. Imagine whatever your favourite game might be, but add in the fact that you can control the camera or whatever by soft gestures with your wrist. Or how hitting a ball in a tennis game might work.

And the whole wireless thing is sweet! But just so you know, the Revolution will use standard, wired Gamecube controllers as well.

Also, that image is a mock-up, but something like that will be released, a "docking bay" of sorts for the remote.


No, I'm not going to get over myself because I dictate what I like and dislike about video games. If I were 8 years old I would think this controller was awesome. When I used to play Super Mario I would stand up and jump every time Mario would jump. But now that I am almost 22 years old, I don't play video games like I used to. I come home from class and play a few games of NHL 06 to unwind. Or I play Madden or 007. I'm not jumping off the walls like I used to. If I want to get that animated I will exercise or play a sport. If I want to flick my wrist back and forth in a repetitive motion I will do that another way.

My point is that Nintendo isn't for me anymore. PS2 and Xbox put out lots of games that appealed to me that I couldn't play because they were not put out for Gamecube. I'm not going to get left behind again so I'm not even going to bother with the Revolution.


Posted by Yan on Sep-19-2005 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
Looking more like XBox or PS3 for me. Sorry Nintendo, I'm not 8 years old anymore.


A shame.

quote:
Satoru Iwata on the "kiddy" issue
First of all, I've never once been embarrassed that children have supported Nintendo. I'm proud of it. That's because children judge products based on instinct.




quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
I'm still not a fan of the whole wireless controller idea, Its an inconvenient having to go to the store to buy new batteries for the controller after they die out, Literally money out of your own pocket, And just for what, So you can play on the fucking controllers, Fuck that!


Uh... Rechargeable battery packs?


Posted by Zombie0915 on Sep-19-2005 13:23:

I think it is a creative idea, I hope they have a starfox game, like a real one where you fly the spaceships and shoot stuff. I would always be tilting my 64 controller and stuff and it would be neat for the game to actually respond to my wild twisting moves, althought it would probably mean me dying more.

And some weird yet pretty games like rez for the playstation, but those kind of games are never very succesful. If this thing has a resonable price I might very well buy it, looks like the other consoles are going to be beyond my means. I wonder if this thing will work well enough for some sword figthing simulations, that would kick ass to play sword fights over the network, couldnt do that on a standard controller.

Maybe another track and field game with a footpad attachment? A modern version of that slick glove controller? Those would be fun to see as well. I must have never matured because I never realy developed a preference for the non nintendo games. I mean I have played plenty but I still find that nintendo games have a very fun charm to them. Hell I caught all the pokemon and enjoyed doing it, wtf is wrong with me. The gamecube still has resident evil, you cant say that only 8 year olds like running around in that game and finding silly ways to die, my favorite so far is at the hands of that chainsaw guy getting decapitated, still I didnt enjoy it quite as much as goldeneye.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Sep-19-2005 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
No, I'm not going to get over myself because I dictate what I like and dislike about video games. If I were 8 years old I would think this controller was awesome. When I used to play Super Mario I would stand up and jump every time Mario would jump. But now that I am almost 22 years old, I don't play video games like I used to. I come home from class and play a few games of NHL 06 to unwind. Or I play Madden or 007. I'm not jumping off the walls like I used to. If I want to get that animated I will exercise or play a sport. If I want to flick my wrist back and forth in a repetitive motion I will do that another way.



You actually think you'll have to run around the whole room? You should read up on some interviews where they talk about this. All that's gonna be needed is a slight gesture with your wrist; unless of course moving your hand up and down by inch is too tiring.

This control will be far superior in games like Madden or first-person shooters because of the added percision it gives you from the get-go.

edit: look at it this way. Imagine playing Madden 2007. In your left hand you have the analog with 2 triggers, and in your right you're holding that remote. You're holding the 2 just like you'd be holding a regular controller, RELAXED, but you aim by slightly moving the remote up-down-left-right, while controlling the quarterback with the analog in your left hand. Do you honestly think that this isn't more intuitive?


Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Sep-19-2005 17:29:

I dont think this will catch on at all. Nintendo have just become too weird since the good old nes days


Posted by flavdave on Sep-19-2005 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
You actually think you'll have to run around the whole room? You should read up on some interviews where they talk about this. All that's gonna be needed is a slight gesture with your wrist; unless of course moving your hand up and down by inch is too tiring.

This control will be far superior in games like Madden or first-person shooters because of the added percision it gives you from the get-go.

edit: look at it this way. Imagine playing Madden 2007. In your left hand you have the analog with 2 triggers, and in your right you're holding that remote. You're holding the 2 just like you'd be holding a regular controller, RELAXED, but you aim by slightly moving the remote up-down-left-right, while controlling the quarterback with the analog in your left hand. Do you honestly think that this isn't more intuitive?


We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I've read the articles, seen the pictures, and watched the video. This controller looks retarded. If I want to play a tennis game by swinging a controller back and forth I would be much better off playing real tennis. And I like the controls in Madden the way they are right now.

The simple fact is that just like what happened with PS vs. N64 and XBox and PS2 vs. GC is that Nintendo won't get the games that the other systems get. And I imagine that the new controllers will drive the developers away even more.


Posted by RJT on Sep-20-2005 00:08:

I dunnno... I guarantee you if I buy a revolution now I will also be purchasing the "cradle" (which basically looks like the actual controller, and similar to gamecubes) for the "controller." (which is basically just a high tech remote control that looks gay and will control awkwardly.)

I was really excited for revolution until I saw the controller, now I am filled with dread... because it looks like Nintendo has taken all the buzz they had going for them over their controller and flushed it down the toilet. Goodbye third party developers...


Posted by Yan on Sep-20-2005 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Vodka
I dont think this will catch on at all. Nintendo have just become too weird since the good old nes days


Uh... What about the SNES?

Plus, why don't you think it'll catch on? This is definitely a step in the right direction. The next generation of games will be rehashes of older ones... with updated graphics and online play. While that's dandy and all, most of us need some sort of variety. Sh*t. Even I'M getting bored and I'm one of those people that's open to almost any game.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
Goodbye third party developers...


Don't say that just yet. You forget two other main reasons why 3rd party developers would definitely tag onto the new console: 1) According to Nintendo, it will be very cheap to manufacture a game, and 2) developing for the system will be simple.

I certainly hope Nintendo is making better relations with the other developers...


Posted by infinity HiGH on Sep-20-2005 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
Goodbye third party developers...


quote:
"Game control is essential - it's the area where perhaps the most game-play improvement can be made," said John Schappert, Sr. Vice President and General Manager of Electronic Arts Canada. "While our portfolio represents a full array of titles across all genres, I think our sports titles might be the first to immediately take advantage of what this novel 'freehand' type of control has to offer."


quote:
"We were among the first publishers to see the control design in action," said Serge Hascoet, Chief Creative Officer of Ubisoft. "We're excited about the new controller and are looking forward to taking advantage of its innovative aspects."


quote:
"What we're seeing from this controller is the same thing we saw with Nintendo DS," said Chuck Huebner, Head of Worldwide Studios, Activision.. "It's a system that's designed with an eye on enticing new players to the video game industry, and that's something we firmly support."


...there's more


Posted by Yan on Sep-20-2005 05:38:

Very worthwhile article to read: http://gamesfirst.com/?id=682

It fills you in on some knowledge about the video game industry and just shows you one person's opinion of why Nintendo is going the right path.

Personally, I'm not a fanboy. I show love for all three consoles. I'm just trying to stop the hate for Nintendo's console.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Sep-20-2005 15:59:

ditto

I'm always the first one to defend Nintendo cause they usually get the most baseless and immature comments thrown at them, but I enjoy playing all 3 consoles.


Posted by TigerClaw on Sep-20-2005 18:52:

Nothing about these new revolution controllers is gonna change on how I feell about them, I'm an old school gamer, And I like the feel of the classic controllers, Making them like this would be an inconvenience. You would then have to spend some of your own money to purchase add-ons for it, So I really hope Nintendo does another set of controllers based on the GameCube ones.


Posted by Yan on Sep-21-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
Nothing about these new revolution controllers is gonna change on how I feell about them, I'm an old school gamer, And I like the feel of the classic controllers, Making them like this would be an inconvenience.


You have obviously not read any of the in-detail articles then. Since you consider yourself an "old school gamer" you'd actually LIKE what Nintendo was doing. You'll just have to find that bit of news yourself. Wouldn't hurt you to get more educated about the system in the meanwhile, too.

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
You would then have to spend some of your own money to purchase add-ons for it, So I really hope Nintendo does another set of controllers based on the GameCube ones.


Somehow I'm sure that you won't even reach the $500 (and that's being generous at this point in time) PS3 threshold paying for the MAIN peripherals (which shouldn't be over 2 or 3 in total).


Posted by TigerClaw on Sep-21-2005 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
You have obviously not read any of the in-detail articles then. Since you consider yourself an "old school gamer" you'd actually LIKE what Nintendo was doing. You'll just have to find that bit of news yourself. Wouldn't hurt you to get more educated about the system in the meanwhile, too.



Somehow I'm sure that you won't even reach the $500 (and that's being generous at this point in time) PS3 threshold paying for the MAIN peripherals (which shouldn't be over 2 or 3 in total).

I prefer the look and classic style of the gamecube controllers, I cant use those type of controlls cause I like all the bottoms where they should be, And the fact its wireless, It's another thing that irks me. I prefer wired over wireless any day, The thought of having to go to a store to wastr money on batteries, Just cause the ones in the controllers ran out, Is not my idea of fun, Surely Nintendo will make controllers to satisfy all the old school gamers.


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