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CD+Vinyl [VS] Just Vinyl ?
Just Vinyl isnt new enough these days. Cant see any DJ without CD-R now. Your opinion ?
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| Originally posted by trance livesets Just Vinyl isnt new enough these days. Cant see any DJ without CD-R now. Your opinion ? |
cds are taking over. i realy didnt like saying that. cd technology is getting beter and most importantly cheaper. everyone just has to get one becaue you dont have to buy music anymore. you can steal all the music you want and no one can do a thing about it. cds last longer, you can play it every day and not have to clean it (seriously, try it if you dont believe me) lasts a shit load longer, costs a shitload less. Oh yeah its so easy to bring around. what you rather bring around 2 70 pound flightcases or one mp3 cd? A lot of the big names are changing over last time i say johan he had like 5 cds and played for like 3 hours.
CDs are great and all but CDs suck unless you have a Pioneer 1000 MK2.
Personally, I think you have to use CDs to keep up with newer tracks. I can't wait to get some CD decks next year. There're a lot of tracks that I simply can't get on vinyl. So places like beatport are very nice.
I'm sure someone's mentioned it before, but with the digital explosion of music, you've got good and bad. It's good because you can get tracks much earlier than their vinyl release. Also, there are killer tracks out there that don't make it to vinyl for one reason or another, so CDs give DJs the opportunity to still play these tracks. On the other hand, since it's become so much easier to get tracks out there, you also get a lot of crap. I'd still say it's worth it, though.
(Of course then there're tracks like Hiratzka & Kazell - Venice Dawn that are just simply hard to get. It's been around for about 18 months and it's only just now been released in any generally available form. And even then, it's only available at Juno right now, that I'm aware of.)
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| Originally posted by trance livesets Just Vinyl isnt new enough these days. Cant see any DJ without CD-R now. Your opinion ? |
The only people who steal their tracks are 15yo bedroom DJ's. I pay for all my music on the various DJ download sites (to both support the artists, as well as obtain high quality digital files).
I spin both vinyl and CD's, and those who say that CD's are "cheating" or what not are simply clueless. There is little difference in mixing with CD's vs. Vinyl. The arguments are pointless and have been made a million times. For those who say "vinyl looks so much better", yes it does look cool, but so do the nice CDJ's, and in many venue's people can't see/don't care what the DJ is using anyway.
As for all CD players sucking besides the 1000MK2 (which I actually own), the CDJ-800 is also very good, as are the Denon tabletop players (the new DN-S3500 looks fantastic).
And if you actually had a Pioneer CDJ-1000 you would know that they don't play MP3 CD's 
Any DJ who produces will play on CD's, since that's the only practical way to get your tune out there (unless you like lugging a laptop and Serato to a club).
I buy what I like on Vinyl, and what I like in digital, and the two co-exists beautifully.
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| Originally posted by Street_Soldier cds are taking over. i realy didnt like saying that. cd technology is getting beter and most importantly cheaper. everyone just has to get one becaue you dont have to buy music anymore. you can steal all the music you want and no one can do a thing about it. cds last longer, you can play it every day and not have to clean it (seriously, try it if you dont believe me) lasts a shit load longer, costs a shitload less. Oh yeah its so easy to bring around. what you rather bring around 2 70 pound flightcases or one mp3 cd? A lot of the big names are changing over last time i say johan he had like 5 cds and played for like 3 hours. CDs are great and all but CDs suck unless you have a Pioneer 1000 MK2. |
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| Originally posted by Street_Soldier what you rather bring around 2 70 pound flightcases |
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| Originally posted by Street_Soldier CDs are great and all but CDs suck unless you have a Pioneer 1000 MK2. |
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| Originally posted by Street_Soldier CDs are great and all but CDs suck unless you have a Pioneer 1000 MK2. |
well its his opinion... though most of TA say that the 1000mk2 is one of the best, but i personally like the SL-DZ1200
and iv heard some people say its crap... but non the less i still want one...
i will still be a vinyl DJ untill they stop making vinyl... but i would like to keep up with some of these newer tunes that are MP3 release only like some of the stuff at Beatport...
but i hated CDJs for a while.. and now that im seeing sooner or later ill have to switch i suppose im just looking for the one that closest to spinning Vinyl... and nothing says vinyl like Technics 
first of all i was talking about cds in general and how many of them now plays mp3s (i wasnt refering to the 1000s specifically) and there are ones with dual reading chips that can cue 2 songs at once.
sorry i admit saying the only good one was teh 1000 mk2 was harsh go read some of my other posts. They make references to the Stantons Denon and in particular the CDJ 800 all being good decks. They are all good decks but what I should have been more clear the reason why the 1000 mk2 is better than the rest is becasue the effects on it are amazing! Other than that is just like all the other ones. Oh yeah any deck without vinyl mode is pretty much crap IMO.
Dude, the CDJ-1000MK2 has NO effects. Not a one. Have you ever used one?
It's one of the most feature-free decks out there right now, but it works very well. It is highly accurate, very reliable, and has a simple layout that anyone can understand. The only "features" it has over vinyl are hot cues, a single loop, master tempo, cue memory, and well that's about it.
While I like my CDJ-1000's, they are clearly overpriced and Pioneer is simply riding out the fact that their deck was the first to market with a touch sensitive platter. It was adopted as the "standard" and they are therefore able to sell it at almost the same price as when it came out in 2001. Very similar to Technics, no?
The new Denon S-3500 has on-board effects and a direct drive spinning platter. Looks very nice to me, probably better than the CDJ-1000 and much cheaper, but there will likely still be posts on here that say "It sucks, you should get CDJ-1000MK2's".
Ugh!
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| Originally posted by Street_Soldier first of all i was talking about cds in general and how many of them now plays mp3s (i wasnt refering to the 1000s specifically) and there are ones with dual reading chips that can cue 2 songs at once. sorry i admit saying the only good one was teh 1000 mk2 was harsh go read some of my other posts. They make references to the Stantons Denon and in particular the CDJ 800 all being good decks. They are all good decks but what I should have been more clear the reason why the 1000 mk2 is better than the rest is becasue the effects on it are amazing! Other than that is just like all the other ones. Oh yeah any deck without vinyl mode is pretty much crap IMO. |
vinyls vs cds r the most retarded argument ever....music is music...it doesnt matter whether u play with records or with cds
As for those who think that vinyl makes u feel cooler and a better dj...ur being stupid and arrogant.
It goes to show that ur only buying techs and mixers to look cool and give urself the title DJ....not actually into doin anythng for trance itself
I own a pair of techs and i could tell u that i hav used cdjs and tables....lemme just say that...in the end, it doesnt matter whether u hav the best turntables in the world....it comes down to the music itself
SO as far as cd vs vinyl goes....it doesnt matter what u spin with...as long as u hav good song selection and u know how to actually mix
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| Originally posted by pvdalltheway vinyls vs cds r the most retarded argument ever....music is music...it doesnt matter whether u play with records or with cds As for those who think that vinyl makes u feel cooler and a better dj...ur being stupid and arrogant. It goes to show that ur only buying techs and mixers to look cool and give urself the title DJ....not actually into doin anythng for trance itself I own a pair of techs and i could tell u that i hav used cdjs and tables....lemme just say that...in the end, it doesnt matter whether u hav the best turntables in the world....it comes down to the music itself SO as far as cd vs vinyl goes....it doesnt matter what u spin with...as long as u hav good song selection and u know how to actually mix |
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| Originally posted by zizack lol, to be honest, I actually do feel a lot cooler when I spin vinyl out as opposed to cds. The process of spinning records is just much more fun and cooler to watch. I spin cds as well, but i really don't get the same feeling I do when I can actually touch a record. I'm not even arguing vinyl over cds, I just think that the "cool" feeling you're putting down is actually pretty normal and a lot of people would agree with me on that. It doesn't make you stupid or arrogant. |
im not sayin anythng bout the "cool" feeling...that is a normal feeling even i get sometimes...but the reason i wanted to say it is cuz alot of ppl who r into djing buy decks for the sake of lookin cool ...doesnt give a shit bout the music itself...im pretty sure uv prbly seen ppl like that.....i saw some guy who is in love with his decks and mixers like they r for show-piece....i mean all he could do is just hang a big picture of his equipment on the wall and stare at it in the mornin when he wakes up and kiss the pic goodnite..lol..anyways...i dont wanna call names here but thre r ppl like that and whats why i wanted post this reply
You think all the people dancing in a club really give a crap whether you are playing on vinyl or cd? No. All they care about is the music period. Not once in my life have I ever seen someone walk up to a DJ and tell them they suck / are stupid for playing on cd's. If someone walked up to me and said that, i'd laugh in their face. Look whos "watching" and look whos "playing". I really want to spend hundereds of $$$ to get my new song pressed on a vinyl just cause it "looks cool". Get real. Unless you plan on selling them, its pointless to get your stuff pressed. Cd's, vinyl, they do the same thing, play music. I like vinyl better b/c its easier to mix on to me than cd's, but thats not gonna stop me from buying a cd or a track that you wont find on record, or out of print stuff. Some people here have the lamest arguements.
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| Originally posted by pvdalltheway im not sayin anythng bout the "cool" feeling...that is a normal feeling even i get sometimes...but the reason i wanted to say it is cuz alot of ppl who r into djing buy decks for the sake of lookin cool ...doesnt give a shit bout the music itself...im pretty sure uv prbly seen ppl like that.....i saw some guy who is in love with his decks and mixers like they r for show-piece....i mean all he could do is just hang a big picture of his equipment on the wall and stare at it in the mornin when he wakes up and kiss the pic goodnite..lol..anyways...i dont wanna call names here but thre r ppl like that and whats why i wanted post this reply |
i said what i did, because it makes ME feel good not the crowd no one else but ME... now your your trying to tell me that MY opinion is bullshit your a fucking twat... and need to relise what is your space and what isnt, i love my Turntables... they arnt show pieces in any way... im looking to add a 4th... and it more then likly will be a CDJ... and i can mix on all 3 turntables i have now...
my mixer is shit... but im proud of what i have, and im damn fucking proud to say im a DJ and i play out about 2 times a month now... its my main sorce of income... and yes im proud of that, but true music is music no matter what medium its on... but I feel better when i play vinyl... and thats all that matters is how I feel...
to end this debate...both mediums (cds and vinyl) are doomed...to what you ask? to laptops combined with serato scrath live...
no more cd, no more cases, no more vinyls to carry....simply have your laptop...and your cd players (denon) or tt's (whichever you prefer) and you're set to play out.
possibly i did not make the question clear. it has become the shitty CD vs VINYL junk.
my original doubt was CD+Vinyl [VS] Just Vinyl
how many vinyl purists are starting to carry 20 cdrs with them ? thats what i mean.
well to answer your question now, sorry... i do have a few songs on CD-r that iv gotten from Chemical.. that i spinn when i play at the club...so i suppose im alright with it now... but dont be affraid of it, go for it and just have a few CDs on hand for when you play out... with some unrealsed stuff that you can get from Beatport... or the new mp3 store at Chemical... just in case its a track that fits soo well but you cant find it on vinyl...
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| Originally posted by alligator to end this debate...both mediums (cds and vinyl) are doomed...to what you ask? to laptops combined with serato scrath live... no more cd, no more cases, no more vinyls to carry....simply have your laptop...and your cd players (denon) or tt's (whichever you prefer) and you're set to play out. |
viva FS2/Serato
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| Originally posted by Ryan0751 Dude, the CDJ-1000MK2 has NO effects. Not a one. Have you ever used one? It's one of the most feature-free decks out there right now, but it works very well. It is highly accurate, very reliable, and has a simple layout that anyone can understand. The only "features" it has over vinyl are hot cues, a single loop, master tempo, cue memory, and well that's about it. While I like my CDJ-1000's, they are clearly overpriced and Pioneer is simply riding out the fact that their deck was the first to market with a touch sensitive platter. It was adopted as the "standard" and they are therefore able to sell it at almost the same price as when it came out in 2001. Very similar to Technics, no? The new Denon S-3500 has on-board effects and a direct drive spinning platter. Looks very nice to me, probably better than the CDJ-1000 and much cheaper, but there will likely still be posts on here that say "It sucks, you should get CDJ-1000MK2's". Ugh! |
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