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i am thinkin to buy new turntables..for what i need to pay attention - Motor Torque, Wow & Flutter???
please tell me more about that

go to the TTX1 vs Technics thread. WOW/Flutter is more impotant

go Techs

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Originally posted by Street_Soldier go to the TTX1 vs Technics thread. WOW/Flutter is more impotant go Techs

yup go techs.. if your gonna scratch id consider the ttx1 a bit more though.. sacrificing (sp?) precision for torgue

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Originally posted by Street_Soldier go to the TTX1 vs Technics thread. WOW/Flutter is more impotant go Techs

put 2 tracks of the same bpm on a pair of ttx they wont go out of synch i think there just as good as each other

1200's, there isn't any other option.

i personally own Technics and i love them...
so iv said this before... sure there are other turntables out there that could do the job for less money... but non of them have been around as long at Technics... mine have been around since the 80's im sure, and they run like new so really when you buy a Technics Turntable you know its going to work and its going to last

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Originally posted by bassz i am thinkin to buy new turntables..for what i need to pay attention - Motor Torque, Wow & Flutter??? please tell me more about that

Hoenstly, I think you should look at everything on paper, i.e. specifications, and take notes on all the decks you look at. Look at torque, wow & flutter: those 2 are prolly the most important.....



THEN.....




Go play with all the decks you took notes on and go with the one that feels the best for YOU. IMO it does not matter what the wow & flutter, torque, etc if you can't mix on the deck because you don't like the feel of it. And vice versa, if you can mix perfectly on a belt-drive, then why not? as long as YOU are comfortable with it.

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Originally posted by Ygrene Hoenstly, I think you should look at everything on paper, i.e. specifications,

well if everyone did that, then no one would listen to us when we say stay away from the DJX-700

i was gonna go 4 tech's then chose the vestax pdx2300 mk2 pros & a love them! at the end of the day it just comes down to personal preferance!

just remember tech's might be industry standard, but there not the be all and end all of dj'ing

I prefer my stantons over technics everyday just because it has a different feel. I feel more comfortable mixing on them. Technics are awesome and last for a long time but I know some kid with some five year old str8-80s and they are working fine till this day. thats just my perspective. but then again when you are buying a more expensive table you are gonna be satisfied with whatver you get since you won't have to deal with the feedback and low torque that plagues cheap tables.

look at the str8-150s as an option too.

If you're going for the industry standard... get tech's or maybe numark ttx's.

if you're looking for decent budget tables, i would suggest stanton str8-150's, numark tt-500's, or maybe tt-200's.

dude the str8-150s cost more than the numark ttx's

the 150's are the same price as an mk5

also the 150's are more of an industry standard than numark

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Originally posted by spdandpwr dude the str8-150s cost more than the numark ttx's the 150's are the same price as an mk5 also the 150's are more of an industry standard than numark

whoops

My suggestion would be the technics aswell, i own a pair of 10 yr old technics (10 yrs at the least) and they work great!
In all its years, i think these where ex club tables coz they look scartched and batterd they work perfectly.
If you get the chance your better off going to as many dj equipment stores trying turntables to find one you like.

I'de really say if you can afford it, go with Technics 1210 MK2 or MK5s (doesn't matter really, both the same other than some minor improvements to the MK5 like the zero-click pitch, with a button that brings the pitch back to 0%) or the Stanton STR-150s. They are both the same price ($450 to $500). The Stanton STR-150s have some added features like higher torque (which you really don't need other than to aide in scratching), it's obviously digital so you can plug it in directly to a computer for FS, and it also has keylock, so it could assist you in harmonic mixing. Either one, you can't go wrong. Just don't go for cheap decks if your serious about it....you wont get as much for your money if you go to sell it in a few years. I'de personally stay away from Numark, as many people have had problems with their turntables like the TTX. The 500 doesn't seem to have as many problems but Numark tables have a different feel than Technics or Stanton, because Numark and Vestax both specialize in making tables for scratching/battles.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Numark and Vestax both specialize in making tables for scratching/battles.

its funny that even though they do, technics and stantons are used more frequently for scratching then the numarks and vestax.

Numark seem more focused on going into the digital realm right now much more then anything else. Vestax have or had im not to sure a great rep for soundquality though.

try and get 2nd hand techs.

i bought vestax pdx d-3's and they re great but now its alsways a learning curve at the beginning of the night when i have to revert to tech's. the slider is different to use. the torque is different which makes it harder to mix when your used to another torque. if i could turn back time i would buy another pair of tech's. purely because you ll be fully used to them when your playing out. all higher priced dd decks will hold speed good enough to beatmatch. techs are more accurate and have by far enough torque.

I find that my Numark tt200's were pretty good for the price.

Well, there are numerous things to consider, but in the end, just buy some 1200s

i would say buy something that would make you happy.

if you just want to mix at home, and are on a budget... maybe something else other techs will work well for you. if you get some entry level direct drive, then difinatley invest in some top notch slipmats. want to be able to do what ever you want w/the record while disturbing how fast the platter is spinning as little as possible.

before i bought my techs, i bought a numark DD -the cheapest one available. i returned the first chance i got because the TT (a straight arm) wasn't able to play some of my records. i would skip near the end of groove on some of my records no matter how i set up the arm. it skipped in the exact same place on the same records w/the stanton straight arm belt drive that the numark was replacing.

also, the pitch slider felt kinda wobbly and loose. the looseness reminded me of a crossfader on a scratch mixer (but not THAT loose). -it got the job done well, but it was not sexy at all.

BUT, aside from first item especially, i really liked the turntable. it was strong, and felt good, it would probably have felt even better w/a sexier slipmat.

night and difference in mixing between two belt drives, and one belt, and one direct.

if it wasn't for the tonearm problem, i would have bought a second one. that's now much i liked them. then i would just wait for another point in time to upgrade to techs.

even though the arms are interchangable, i was so pissed off, i took it as an omen to adhere to the "buy it once, buy it right" credo. so i traded it for my current vestax mixer, and waited till i had enough for the techs. (one by one...)

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There is a simple answer to this thread and i am suprised no one has mentioned this yet. If you plan on djing at clubs the ONLY best option is to get Techs 1200's mkII because that is the ONLY turntable you will find in a club. Therefore it would be smart to get the techs so u can get used to the feel. You CAN NOT simply go from a turntable such as a TTX and all of a sudden spin on techs. It is a totally different feel and its really hard to make that transition. i used to have the numark tt500 (same as ttx but without the digital implementation) and now i have a tech 1210 mkII, and trust me its alot harder to beat match on techs than a TTX. Now...if u do not plan on working as a dj at a club then i definitly recommend a different tt for the price. Which turntable to buy is completely up to you. I would test all the tts i have in mind and choose the one that feels the best. All in all, buy techs if ur serious so u can get used to the feel of techs so when u go to the club u know how to handle them OR but the turntable that feels best for you if your juss lookin for a hobby.
PEACE

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Originally posted by DJ pHiLtHy There is a simple answer to this thread and i am suprised no one has mentioned this yet. If you plan on djing at clubs the ONLY best option is to get Techs 1200's mkII because that is the ONLY turntable you will find in a club. Therefore it would be smart to get the techs so u can get used to the feel. You CAN NOT simply go from a turntable such as a TTX and all of a sudden spin on techs. It is a totally different feel and its really hard to make that transition. i used to have the numark tt500 (same as ttx but without the digital implementation) and now i have a tech 1210 mkII, and trust me its alot harder to beat match on techs than a TTX. Now...if u do not plan on working as a dj at a club then i definitly recommend a different tt for the price. Which turntable to buy is completely up to you. I would test all the tts i have in mind and choose the one that feels the best. All in all, buy techs if ur serious so u can get used to the feel of techs so when u go to the club u know how to handle them OR but the turntable that feels best for you if your juss lookin for a hobby. PEACE

and thats bullshit!

the majority do, but not all clubs use tech's!
but i would recomend gettin techs so that you are used to them for when u play in clubs.

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Originally posted by DJ pHiLtHy There is a simple answer to this thread and i am suprised no one has mentioned this yet. If you plan on djing at clubs the ONLY best option is to get Techs 1200's mkII

90% of people will never get to play in a club get ur head out of the clouds and buy a deck that u actually like and not cose u think its the industry standard.
Also if ur good enough to play in a club u should be good enough to use any deck so there should be no problem adapting to a new deck if u did get to play in a club only a bad dj blames his equipment. u should be able to use different equipment anyway u just have to look at all the different types of mixers that clubs use to know that.

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