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Tiesto? PvD? Check this out will ya??

Well, gladly you managed to check out this thread since I'm terribly curious to know why do people still vote for Tiesto and PvD. I would really like to find a decent reason why the hell should we vote for Tiesto or PvD.
In fact, I would like someone to give me a damn good reason why Tiesto is sooo over rated. The guy's sets and latest productions can't even compete with other tracks 'n mixes. I truely hate it when people say that Tiesto is better than Armin or that PvD is better than I dunno who. Come on!!! You're actually saying that Tiesto's recent albums are better than other DJs' albums?? Are you nuts?? What the hell are you smoking?!?!? Please don't give me all this crap about different tastes and shit like that. Tiesto isnt about taste or anything anymore. I was just at his gig here in Dubai last night, it was packed really. I actually gave myself the impression that MAYBE MAAAYYBBEEE Tiesto's gonna pull off a good set. Unfortunately he didnt. It was worse than PvD's set here in Dubai too.
Same goes for PvD. I truely don't like his productions. My fave PvD production by far is his remix of Members of Mayday - 10 in 1. That's it! I haven't really heard The Other Side yet but I'm not expecting much.And I can't find anything special in his mixes too really. Oh and what's with PvD saying that "the new trance sound doesn't appeal to him" ?!?!?
To me, PvD and Tiesto are nothing and I would like to find posts with good reasons why people still vote for them and why are they still topping the DJ charts.

P.S: It just kills me everytime I listen to Tiesto's so called track Adagio For Strings when it's actually William Orbit's. I truely hate that track. Ferry's remix all the way. Mind the word "remix"
Thanks

1. You shouldnt be taking productions in to account when voting in a DJ poll

2. It isnt william orbits track, it's samuel barber's (sp?) ferry remixed the william orbit version, tiesto made the track from the original classical piece.

3. there's already a million threads like this, why another one? use the search and use the current threads ffs.

4. AND yes, people must be voting for these DJ's for a reason! If you can't see why then that must come down to opinion.

Re: Tiesto? PvD? Check this out will ya??

While I'll agree with you, this is Ti�sto-bashing thread #11346852879653785. Un-needed.

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Originally posted by Krowster P.S: It just kills me everytime I listen to Tiesto's so called track Adagio For Strings when it's actually William Orbit's. I truely hate that track. Ferry's remix all the way. Mind the word "remix" Thanks

It was Samuel Barber's before Orbit's.

Even though I'm not a big Tiesto fan, and I do think his albums are poor. It's all down to musical taste. I love Ferry's album and even Armins new one is growing on me. A lot of people would slate both. "Armins is uninspired" and "Ferrys is not trance".

Who gives a fuck. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that all the thousands of people who go to see him are wrong. They just prefer his music.

Re: Re: Tiesto? PvD? Check this out will ya??

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Originally posted by idoru While I'll agree with you, this is Ti�sto-bashing thread #11346852879653785. Un-needed. It was Samuel Barber's before Orbit's.

LMAO

sorry peeps.

Ill just delete the thread (if i can). Thanks anyways

sorry for all the bother

You're sorry for asking why in god's name people vote for tiesto? wtf, its a legit question. I don't know why either

Give new talent a chance

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Originally posted by Nell 1. You shouldnt be taking productions in to account when voting in a DJ poll 2. It isnt william orbits track, it's samuel barber's (sp?) ferry remixed the william orbit version, tiesto made the track from the original classical piece. 3. there's already a million threads like this, why another one? use the search and use the current threads ffs. 4. AND yes, people must be voting for these DJ's for a reason! If you can't see why then that must come down to opinion.

+1 to all

i reckon it's mostly got something to do with paul van dyk being the best dj on earth.

^I like those odds

Personally I'm not a hardcore trance fan and I don't claim to be. I listen to it occasionally and that's how I like it.

That being said I like both of these artists (PvD quite a bit more, though) because they create accessible music and very "listenable" sounds.

Stuff like ISOS4 disc2 for me is very relaxing and I love to listen to it when I'm at the end of the night or just driving around town in my vehicle.

I like PvD because he seems to have a bit of a harder style than most other DJ's I've listened to and the sets I have listened to are pretty consistent -- not much junk, at least in my opinion.

Granted I didn't vote in the DJ poll because I'm not knowledgable enough in the genre to assert my opinion.

So there's a newbie's opinion for you on why people like Tiesto and PvD.

it's all about popularity. A lot of the people who vote in the djmag polls probably havent seen a lot of the smaller names, and therefore know no different than to vote tiesto. Also, and i hope i'm not being big headed in saying this, a lot of people arent as clued up as us guys on music/DJ'ing, so they'll go out, have an absoloutely amazing time while watching tiesto, and not notice the 5 second transitions and fader slams and trainwrecks. Then they'll go and vote for him.

The reason why i have used tiesto as an example is that i still rate PvD as an excellent DJ, although he hasn't really blown my socks off this year, compared to tiesto, his technical ability is amazing. Whether that is because technically, he is a better DJ, or because he can still actually be bothered to mix properly when he plays out is not really for me to say

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Originally posted by punjabi i reckon it's mostly got something to do with paul van dyk being the best dj on earth.

ahh you people crack me up

people vote for pvd and tiesto because they simply don't know better. those are commercial djs with mass appeal so ofcourse they'll get lots of votes for that fact alone

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Originally posted by n0bben ahh you people crack me up people vote for pvd and tiesto because they simply don't know better. those are commercial djs with mass appeal so ofcourse they'll get lots of votes for that fact alone

Well, let me explain my vote for PvD for #1. First, I think he's the only DJ that can upset Tiesto who's mixing ability is so questionable, it puts everyone's votes into perspective. Armin might be the other. The second reason is because I like him. I've seen him 4 times this year, with his best set of the bunch being 4-15-05 at Crobar NYC. I saw him at Space for WMC, and he was good, but it might have been too early in the year for me to enjoy it enough. I think if I could relive that set, I would like it better because I would know more tracks, which to me means something. His NYE set was marred by a stabbing and him shutting down early even though it was very commercial

Stll well done as far as a commercial set goes.

My other votes were for Ferry, who has some of the most intense energy I've seen live, Eddie Halliwell, Steve Porter, and James Zabiela. I've probably seen 50 different DJs this year, including the aforementioned, plus Digweed 3x, Sasha 8x, Desyn, Blank & Jones, Armin 3x, Junkie XL 3x, Danny Howells 2x, Holden, Dave Seaman, Mauro Picotto, Chris Liebing, Evil Nine, Josh Wink 2x. Anyhow, I'm running out of desire to relist everything. You get my drift.

pvd makes stupid remakes of almost all tracks he plays with his own beats and percussions, that really pisses me off because he doesnt improve them, he rapes them
i heard politics of dancing 2, what a mess! Many frequencies are canceled out because of these overlapping beats and original harmonics are lost
i wont mention the mixing and song selection (did he even think it over?) on that cd, but its a mess too



i dont understand: you are pro, you are number 2 of the world, you have no talent (apparently these 3 things go together nowadays)

about tiesto: he is allright; not a master at mixing, not a master at song selection, fairly good producer, but he gets the crowd going... Surely not #1 though.

Armin: Always was a huge fan, loved asot, but since episode 190 or something he started to please all his 'friends' and only (well some exceptions) played tracks made by them, instead of playing the best trance of the moment. He refers to that as 'supporting artists'. Another thing i dont like: I get really angry when he plays nirvana - smells like teen spirit bk remix in live sets (he does that alot), it rediculises dance music and himself.

This year i decided to not vote, thought about voting on Markus, but i dont like male vocal tracks and he plays them alot.

Damn i sound like a cry baby, rereading this. And no, i dont listen only to the big djs, i listen lots of djs' sets

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Originally posted by Thois it rediculises dance music and himself.

That was the best part about your post. You did a Googooly-esque statement and made it into a verb.

And Armin's been doing that to ASOT since ehhh... well... he started doing it around 100. Especially since he left ID&T and went to DI which was around episode 184, not 190. I still find most of the episodes entertaining however commercial they are.

I vote Tiesto because I am a n00b and I LOVE IT!!! Not to mention that most people on this site simply ROCK... My votevinger smells like ****..

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Originally posted by punjabi i reckon it's mostly got something to do with paul van dyk being the best dj on earth.

Agreed. Best DJ and 2nd most popular DJ.

Re: Re: Tiesto? PvD? Check this out will ya??

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Originally posted by idoru While I'll agree with you, this is Ti�sto-bashing thread #11346852879653785. Un-needed. It was Samuel Barber's before Orbit's.

Ah... Intelligence

Re: Tiesto? PvD? Check this out will ya??

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Originally posted by Krowster Well, gladly you managed to check out this thread since I'm terribly curious to know why do people still vote for Tiesto and PvD. I would really like to find a decent reason why the hell should we vote for Tiesto or PvD. In fact, I would like someone to give me a damn good reason why Tiesto is sooo over rated. The guy's sets and latest productions can't even compete with other tracks 'n mixes. I truely hate it when people say that Tiesto is better than Armin or that PvD is better than I dunno who. Come on!!! You're actually saying that Tiesto's recent albums are better than other DJs' albums?? Are you nuts?? What the hell are you smoking?!?!? Please don't give me all this crap about different tastes and shit like that. Tiesto isnt about taste or anything anymore. I was just at his gig here in Dubai last night, it was packed really. I actually gave myself the impression that MAYBE MAAAYYBBEEE Tiesto's gonna pull off a good set. Unfortunately he didnt. It was worse than PvD's set here in Dubai too. Same goes for PvD. I truely don't like his productions. My fave PvD production by far is his remix of Members of Mayday - 10 in 1. That's it! I haven't really heard The Other Side yet but I'm not expecting much.And I can't find anything special in his mixes too really. Oh and what's with PvD saying that "the new trance sound doesn't appeal to him" ?!?!? To me, PvD and Tiesto are nothing and I would like to find posts with good reasons why people still vote for them and why are they still topping the DJ charts. P.S: It just kills me everytime I listen to Tiesto's so called track Adagio For Strings when it's actually William Orbit's. I truely hate that track. Ferry's remix all the way. Mind the word "remix" Thanks

I bet you're well articulate and coherent in the real world as well aren't cha... Ay? Ay??



Vote for me

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Originally posted by Nell 1. You shouldnt be taking productions in to account when voting in a DJ poll 2. It isnt william orbits track, it's samuel barber's (sp?) ferry remixed the william orbit version, tiesto made the track from the original classical piece. 3. there's already a million threads like this, why another one? use the search and use the current threads ffs. 4. AND yes, people must be voting for these DJ's for a reason! If you can't see why then that must come down to opinion.

couldn't say it better!
+1 !!!

i like paul van dyk.

last time i saw him in chicago, he fuckin rocked the place.

i've yet to see tiesto, but his livesets just don't inspire me like other dj's out there right now.

personally, i think the most overrated dj's are tiesto and armin. i saw armin just last year.. it was seriously boring throughout.

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