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Posted by MikHail on Sep-16-2005 18:47:

Enrolling for Music Theory Vs Music Production?

Hi all,

I know this must of been posted before, but the search button only goes back to July 2005

Anyway

I'm interested about people stories who have studied music either in production, theory or composition at college or university and tell me about it, perhapsd come up with a conclusion to whats best to enrol for as I'm interested in production as well as remixing.

Bottom line to what I'm getting at, is I'd like to study a Music Production course and come out technical as well as knowledge of music theory apart from Borderline Tech Whiz on the Sequencer, If you know such a course or have studied, please tell me

I've eyeballed PointblankLondon and SAE, because enrolling is a lot of ��� I'd like to make the best decision and I'm willing to move If its trendy enough.

Cheers, THanks for reading


Posted by qiushiming on Sep-17-2005 20:25:

whats your background in either like?


Posted by MikHail on Sep-17-2005 21:48:

uninitiate in music theory, hadn't studied it in high school nor played an instrument

Initiate in music production I know the terminologies/I've dragged and dropped samples and worked on templates, sounded alright but was confined by hardware and no keyboard for my own creations

If I know what tunes compliment in a set, when to drop a beat and have an idea for a remix project surely thats music theory in itself?

Otherwise I 'll get learning on the piano/keyboard from a book, I've checked them out they come with tutor CD.

I mean alright I've almost answered my own question, but I've been reading DJ/PRoducer Biographies and they either

Learnt to play an instrument at an early age

Studied at University

or just plain out bought decks without the study/instrument learning and started magically producing such as Paul Van Dyk supposely he started with mix tapes to DJ to Producer, ala Ferry Corsten, As for Armin Van Buuren he was brought up in a music family.


Posted by jdat on Sep-17-2005 22:05:

THEORY THEORY THEORY THEORY!

If you have to pick between music theory and production I know it's a question of personal preference but I say go with music theory FIRST at all cost ( literally ).

Sure it would give you a jump start on learning production from someone else but having a stable musical base is really key.

You can always try and pick up production over time as a personal project but trying to pick up as you go on music theory that's a tad trickier.


Posted by Frase on Sep-17-2005 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
THEORY THEORY THEORY THEORY!

If you have to pick between music theory and production I know it's a question of personal preference but I say go with music theory FIRST at all cost ( literally ).

Sure it would give you a jump start on learning production from someone else but having a stable musical base is really key.

You can always try and pick up production over time as a personal project but trying to pick up as you go on music theory that's a tad trickier.


Agreed

Go with the theory, It'll be much more beneficial at this stage for you!

The technical side can easily be picked up over time


Posted by mef on Sep-18-2005 00:51:

technology in music keeps changing. theory does not

having said that i learned a lot of theory when i did my A Level in music technology. puely because we were waiting for the technology to be delivered hahahah. took months cos it was a new course so the budget was decided on the spot really hahaha. go for theory


Posted by DJ_Ikronix on Sep-18-2005 07:31:

I'll just add another vote for music theory. It helps so much.


Posted by MikHail on Sep-18-2005 08:31:

Alright Cheers!

I've met people who did Music production but still left them clueless in how to make chord and other elements you could compliment the track.

Alright so, what would be the best way to go about music theory?

I mean some of you did it through high school, my friends did, they had to write a soundtrack for a movie as a project(ie choose a screen then write a score for it)

I don't mind self study, but vocational training is when I can shoot questions across.


Posted by PutBoy on Sep-18-2005 10:06:

Pick up a book. Join a forum.

That's the way you learn things these days. Or at least that's how I go about it.


Posted by herozero on Sep-18-2005 13:22:

If money is tight, i'd advice u to purchase gears and learn instead.

By going through music courses will not guarantee u a place in the music biz. thats for sure.

But as for music theory or production, i'd go for music theory instead.


Posted by thesuperfunk on Sep-18-2005 14:05:

www.accesstomusic.co.uk


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-18-2005 14:23:

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
Pick up a book. Join a forum.

That's the way you learn things these days. Or at least that's how I go about it.

Not the best way to learn music theory. I'd really suggest a course unless the money is tight - the local conservatories, music colleges and community colleges will almost always have them.


Posted by MikHail on Sep-18-2005 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
www.accesstomusic.co.uk


Thank You so much for the Link!

Looks promising and do'able I'll check them out, Cheers!


Posted by retrobyte on Sep-18-2005 16:04:

THEORY!

My mother put me in front of a hard-ass piano teacher since the age of five and I'm SO thankful for it now - it's all engrained in me it sounds trite, but theory really is the basis for everything. once you have theory basics down, there's so much less guesswork involved and your workflow should improve in leaps and bounds.


Posted by Espresso on Sep-20-2005 05:48:

Ricci Adam's music theory


Posted by nightshiver on Sep-20-2005 07:00:

If you go the tech way you better like rock 'n' roll coz your going to have to listen to a lot of it.

I've been doing a tech course for the last year and don't like it very much. Before i got into this course i read heaps of online tutorials and feel that going to this course has taught me very little. Tech course is brilliant if your in a band and are a complete noob to the whole recording process but isn't the best if you're an elctronic artist, unless you go to one of those expensive MIDI schools. Once again this comes to the point of why study something full time which is VERY hard to get a job in (you can be a roady and push boxes for some death metal band, not very fun) which can be done from home?

If you have time to attend audio school and just want to go there for a bit of knowledge, kool,.. however i would adivse you have something on the side to guarantee you work.

Just my experiences.
Cheers.


Posted by thesuperfunk on Sep-20-2005 12:01:

quote:
Originally posted by MikHail
Thank You so much for the Link!

Looks promising and do'able I'll check them out, Cheers!


NP mate .. i've just started the course myself and all is good so far.


Posted by MikHail on Sep-20-2005 17:49:

Ideally for me Its the love of making music, but more importantly how to structure it as well as adding my own touch, like my own written chord.



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