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Posted by justin on Dec-20-2001 09:13:

why do they call it cheese?

like the message icon says kids

Posted by tu_face on Dec-20-2001 10:21:

because its tacky... cheezy..

surely u know what cheezy means thus the term cheez

Posted by ascension on Dec-20-2001 10:21:

cos it sounds cheesy...
the sorta noise made when u rub cheese against a grater

hmm but i dunno... its sorta hard to give a definition as such, prolly easier to recognise a cheesy song than define the term...

this hasnt helped eh

Posted by Linx_da_cat on Dec-20-2001 16:13:

my definition of cheese tracks are tunez that have no creativity in em whatsoever. sure they sound alright i guess, they're danceable but they don't take you anywhere. just a track that you can tap your foot to. usually an upbeat tune with a really repetitive synth on top of a synth. like better off alone by alice deejay for example.

Posted by torontotrance on Dec-20-2001 16:27:

Cause cheese is garbage just like this thread. Bloody hell......cheese meisters like atb, darude and other assholes make music that just degrades other trance artists who make intelligent music.

Posted by flystyler on Dec-20-2001 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Lynx
my definition of cheese tracks are tunez that have no creativity in em whatsoever. sure they sound alright i guess, they're danceable but they don't take you anywhere. just a track that you can tap your foot to. usually an upbeat tune with a really repetitive synth on top of a synth. like better off alone by alice deejay for example.

That is about it, just a tune that is for the pop dance fans, kinda aimed at 14 year olds, and school discos, like steps. Just cheese

Posted by Blik on Dec-20-2001 17:38:

ever played daddy dj - daddy dj on your computer?

when you do, you smell this weird cheesey air coming out of your computer, that's why it is called cheese

Posted by Lost on Dec-20-2001 17:54:

lynx is the only one to attempt to define. i myself have been wondering about the cheese question cuz everyone here says this is cheesy that is cheesy but a lot of the songs they rave about are cheesy too so what's the dividing point. i guess to each his own. i actually liked better off alone until it got played out. i still like the signum remix. download it before you trash it cuz its hella good. just like the quake remix of atb - don't stop. the first time i heard it i was shocked. and don't flame me for being a cheeser. i'm more into prog house which you could all flame me for anyways.

lost

Posted by pixyjunket on Dec-20-2001 18:07:

i love cheese

Posted by davinox on Dec-20-2001 18:17:

Cheese is great. Sometimes, after I listen to 4 hours or so of straight "good" trance, I pop in my cd with "Better off Alone", "Castles in the Sky", "Robin Fox", and "The Warp Brothers - We Will Survive" and it puts a smile on my face.

Cheese is the stupid, silly hashed out sitcom that's fun to watch after you've just seen 2 great movies...

Posted by Biohazard on Dec-20-2001 18:24:

OMG Daddy DJ, you cannot get worse cheese than this

The clip is just so lame

I like cheese, but in VERY small quantities

Posted by SportTrance on Dec-20-2001 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
ever played daddy dj - daddy dj on your computer?

when you do, you smell this weird cheesey air coming out of your computer, that's why it is called cheese

Odd how those 3 dancing penguins always run perfect with whatever track I am listening to....

Posted by Blik on Dec-20-2001 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by SportTrance

Odd how those 3 dancing penguins always run perfect with whatever track I am listening to....

thx, I love them too

Posted by Tranex02 on Dec-20-2001 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by SportTrance

Odd how those 3 dancing penguins always run perfect with whatever track I am listening to....
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OK...that REALLY made me Laugh!!!!!

Cheese is nice on certain occasions.

Posted by boy_luke_y2k on Dec-20-2001 22:44:

U can't get much cheesier than this new song which is supposedly trance, I heard this yesterday on the radio moments after I heard that Tijs had left Gouryella, it was not a good day:

DJ Alligator - Whistle Song

Posted by vkapartz on Dec-21-2001 00:25:

Posted by whiskers on Dec-21-2001 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by boy_luke_y2k
U can't get much cheesier than this new song which is supposedly trance, I heard this yesterday on the radio moments after I heard that Tijs had left Gouryella, it was not a good day:

DJ Alligator - Whistle Song

are you kidding me? that's doesn't go into the cheese category! that goes into the trash category!

in my opinion, cheese is almost everything that is played to death. it's funny how most of cheese is actually 3-4 minutes long. almost anything with weird vocals (alice deejay) could be cheese (hey, coast 2 coast - home is gonna be on my "favorite cheese tracks" list soon)
i do like to listen to atb's two worlds when i'm sad or tired, but i hate 9pm though.
cheese is basically any track that could never-ever-ever be a classic, but it is played like it is or like someone wants it to be (armin's communication, now that is a classic!)

Posted by Tranex02 on Dec-21-2001 04:37:

...DJ Alligator - Whistle Song

That song is CRAP....some people might like it...but when i first heard it and saw the video....it made me sick...lol.

Posted by Tony Morello on Dec-21-2001 07:50:

however... when sandstorm was first out... i'm sure eveyone of you went nuts to it... i remember the first time i heard it at a rave... everyone went nuts
and then hearing it in the clubs, then it started to get some radio play... then it became cheese...

so right down to the absolute basics... cheese is when it starts to make some major cash for the producer, or 'sell out'

or that's the theory behind some cheese

/flame mode on

Posted by lMIlk on Dec-21-2001 07:56:

quote:
Originally posted by davinox
Cheese is great. Sometimes, after I listen to 4 hours or so of straight "good" trance, I pop in my cd with "Better off Alone", "Castles in the Sky", "Robin Fox", and "The Warp Brothers - We Will Survive" and it puts a smile on my face.

Cheese is the stupid, silly hashed out sitcom that's fun to watch after you've just seen 2 great movies...
its funny when people talk about cheese and say that its "rave" music...it just make me feel so superior.

Posted by Kurve on Dec-21-2001 09:58:

its because when u listen to cheeze music for to long it makes u almost feel like ur smelling the worst smellest cheeze in the world!

Posted by fastmp3 on Dec-21-2001 10:07:

hehe cheese what a nice subject , what can i say ? well most of us started listening to trance thanks to CHEESE hehe

Posted by tu_face on Dec-21-2001 10:13:

cheez can be good.. just look at some of the stuff mauro picotto makes... how cheezy was that riff in like this like that..? as i sed.. cheezy needs no definition as i should think that cheezy/tacky is universally known...

cheez can be created also. as DJ Shokwav said.. sandstorm at first was a major tune.. same with 9pm... but then it got over played and it no longer hasd that sparkle.. turns into cheez.

there is a clear line in my mind between good cheez and bad cheez...

one thing i dont understand... is why ppl r raving about that emmy tune.. wont let u down... BLEH thas way too cheezy for me.. i tend to hate those 80's tunes remix things.. THEY are cheez..

Posted by Peter Campbell on Dec-21-2001 12:03:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
cheez can be good.. just look at some of the stuff mauro picotto makes... how cheezy was that riff in like this like that..? as i sed.. cheezy needs no definition as i should think that cheezy/tacky is universally known...

cheez can be created also. as DJ Shokwav said.. sandstorm at first was a major tune.. same with 9pm... but then it got over played and it no longer hasd that sparkle.. turns into cheez.

there is a clear line in my mind between good cheez and bad cheez...

songs don't go from great tracks to being cheez just because they are
over played or by how high they get in the charts.

if a track is cheezy, its cheezy the min the producer finishers the
track.

lets face it all Tracne tracks the get somewhere are not all cheezy
and if you liked sandstorm or 9pm before it was unknown you liked cheez anyway

########to make trance cheez or any other type of music cheez#########

first make small catchy melodys-riffs,

give it no meaning,

use only one
synth line at a time so the simple minds can understand it,

#########to make real trance or any other type of music###############

make it mean something creat new worlds open the minds of people
make them think,

use complex synth lines with many things moving at once,

over all make the track complex in its self,

put your heart in it,

produce the track first for your self not the money factor, if you make $$$$$ so be it.

Posted by tu_face on Dec-21-2001 15:00:

thats not what i mean exactly but thats the best way of saying it i could think of..

example: while 9pm was relatively unknow.. it was regarded as trancy as fuck yeah? sweeping melodic riff with plenty of echoes and reverb etc etc

now, when we hear 9pm, we sigh and go "oh no not this again".. because we know it too well and its gotten reasonably poppy.. we regard it as cheez... not just because it has become well known.. but because atb has made a billion other tunes with the same riff in a different order..

im tryin to say what i mean but it aint workin lol..

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