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Laser Eye Surgery???
OK......... i need a new set of eyeballs.
wanted some Ta feedback. Anyone have it done?? People are telling me im too young (im 23) and i cant find any online pricing (didnt think i would).
HeLp AnYoNe?
Vince
I can't help you out, but I am also 23 and searching for new eyeballs. If in fact you go thru with zapping your corneas, then let me know how it goes....I've been wanting to do this since I was like 16. I'm just not happy with -4.50 and -3.50 eyes. 
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| Originally posted by Sly_Guy I can't help you out, but I am also 23 and searching for new eyeballs. If in fact you go thru with zapping your corneas, then let me know how it goes....I've been wanting to do this since I was like 16. I'm just not happy with -4.50 and -3.50 eyes. |
i know someone who had it done.. at like 24-25
u get a life time warranty, so if it your eyes get worse u get ur operations after for free.
it takes 15 minutes per eye,
and its bout 1500$ for both i believe.
I would be willing to sell one (or perhaps both) of my eyeballs. My eyes are blue, and my vision is apparently better than 20/20. Just PM me and we will discuss details (price, etc.)
Katie
Ill trade u my crusty brown ones!
Ps they dont work
Wouldn't suggest you try it just yet
Hey man,
Short version: I wouldn't try it just yet. Too many things still go wrong.
Long version: I've researched this quite a bit, and I am not ready to play Russian roulette with a lazer gun. IF your surgery is successful, then you still have a chance of having halo's and other after-effects of the surgery. Research these, I think they might scare you. To provide more context...
What the doctors don't tell you is what "they" consider a success: that is, they didn't make your eye-sight worse, you seem to be seeing better in daylight - that's success - whooptee-do! (this success rate is about 98-99%)
In reality, the success rate should be measured against people who have not displayed surgery after effects (bright lights at night, loss of night vision, halos, double-vision of simple things such as sub-titles, etc etc etc), as well as those that do not need corrective surgery IMMIDEATELY after the first one. When you count those in, the success rate of lazer eye surgery is supposedly around 85%..
You also should know they offer life-time warranty. What does that tell you? That your eye-sight may get worse, and you will HAVE to zap it again in that case. Are you prepared to do that? Do you know long-term effects of blasting lazer into pretty much the most delicate tissue in your body?
So you decide. If your vision is so messed up that glasses and contacts don't help anymore, by all means, do it. I'm holding out for 5-7 more years to see if there are any studies that show increased eye-cancer or eye disease rates for those who have undergone the surgery. If nothing comes out of that, heck, i'd be the first in line to zap 'em.
Cheers,
-Superstring
PS. Also wanted to let you know that I work with a guy who has had the surgery done. He is now having issues with after-effects which I have described above. When I spoke to him, he said he would give alot of things up just to be able to go back and wear glasses and contacts again, instead of the crap he has to deal with now.
^^^
I've spoken to at least 10 people who have had it done, and you are the first one who has ever said anything negative about it. But that's not a bad thing. Personally, what I've heard is that when you cut costs on the sugery, more things tend to go wrong. I was also expecting a price tag of about $5000 per eye. And as for the night vision problems, I have also heard of those, intense coronas around lights, and as someone who loves my nocturnal mayhem, I don't think I'd be willing to risk that as well, if indeed your figures are correct. But I guess it doesn't matter, I wasn't planning on getting the surgery anytime soon, but it was something I've been looking at for a long time.
5K an eye is quite a bit. Have the people you talked to also gotten this hefty price surgery, or did they opt for the cheaper ones, like the ones you see on TV for like $500 odd?
I'm curious to this as well since I've been considering removing the need for my glasses.
Meanwhile, these after effects sound like they might go down a treat in a club with the lasers going off :P
One of my friends had it, it was sort of a requirement for him if he were to get into policing.
He had to wear those awesome oldpeople wrap-around sunglasses for 2 weeks or so, but he swears his vision has improved tenfold.
So yeah, I don't know, but I believe him.
consider this.... there are shit loads of famous people that i see that wear glasses once every blue moon, meaning that even though they are insanely rich, they still opt out for the more traditional glasses and contacts option. if they wanted to, they could get the best surgeon in the world do the operation, but they dont go thru with it.
i've been wanting to have it done for years. my ex's dad had it done and he hasnt had any side effects, but his eyes were also -7 or soemthing crazy like that.
besides, glasses tend to make people look smart and sophisticated. i figure if i dont really have it, might as well fake it 
Go for the 5 grand per eye if anything. If you want to gamble with your eyes, gamble smart. The 500 per eye is the cheapest thing and they just want you in and out as quickly as possible. Stuff like that, don'd go cheap on.
One of the big side effects is that you develop far sightedness more quickly than if you didn't go though with the procedure. You may want to consider this depending on what you will be doing most (ie, on the computer/reading stuff vs driving for a living)
Consider the possibility though
Hey man,
It's not that I think it's totally unsafe. It's the _gamble_ that makes me wonder.
Consider this:
If, as a result of regular surgery gone bad, or its after-effects, you lose a limb, a lung, a kidney or an ear, or a finger, or alot of skin (etc etc etc), you still get to LIVE the full life. Yeah, you're somewhat limited in your options, but you can still go out, you can still work the majority of jobs, and you can still date, you can still marry, you can SEE your life.
Once you loose your eyesight, bam, your life changes. In fact, you are DONE. Life is limited to this little world of the apartment you live in, and maybe to walks in areas where somebody is guiding you. You won't see the Eiffel Tower, nor the pyramids, or anything else really. Like I said, one little slip-up, and you're done. And eye cancer and the other after-effects, well, lets not get into that.
That's why I'm weary of the surgery. I'm not REQUIRED to get it. Glasses and contacts do the trick. Girls say I look smart in glasses. Why would I want to risk it, at least as of right now?
Sly, you're right in that this dude I know (Tom) is the first one I personally talked to that has had such strong after-effects. He's probably one out of 5 or 6 people I personally know that have had the surgery. The others rave about it. But when I do get it, I don't want to be in Tom's position.
Cheers,
-Superstring
Re: Consider the possibility though
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| Originally posted by Superstring |
I've been thinking about getting surgery too but I think I'm gonna wait to see when they've perfected it like fixing a broken bone. My eyes are precious and I too don't mind wearing glasses/contacts on a daily basis.
see, the thing is in my case, I absolutely hate glasses. A lot of people say I look good with them, but at the perscription strength I'm at, I have to wear them all the time if I'm to do so, and it really gets annoying. First of all, wearing them for long periods of time gives me headaches because of the changed perception of periferal vision, and that same change in periferal vision also fucks up anything I try to do with sports. Being a fairly active person, I gets very annoying, and couple that with chasing your glasses around a gym floor everytime you get hit and it gets to be a very negative thing.
So I choose to wear contacts instead, but to combat all these issues, I wear them all the time like 14-16 hours a day. I know it's unhealthy to do so, I know it increases your risk of infection, as well as it can be detrimental to the long-term health of your eyes as it cuts down the air your eyes recieve, but I really don't see any other option which allows me the freedom from headaches, ability to be active, and have a decent level of vision.
I have yet to try out the ultra high oxygen permiable contacts that have come out recently, but the laser eye surgery has always been something I've been looking at to correct my vision to the point where I'm free of both contacts and glasses. To me, if the numbers are 95% success rate with no night vision problems, or if a clinic can offer me a guarantee of numbers along those lines, whether it be a $5 or a $5000 per eye surgery, I'll be getting that it. But before I make any solid decisions, I want to amass as much knowledge whether it be by scientific, or personal experience.
i say go for it!
too many mixed opinions, do what you feel is right!
I hate glasses, i have been wearing them most of my life, but i am sure its liberating without them, if i had the money right now i'd do it!
Re: Consider the possibility though
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| Originally posted by Superstring Once you loose your eyesight, bam, your life changes. In fact, you are DONE. Life is limited to this little world of the apartment you live in, and maybe to walks in areas where somebody is guiding you. You won't see the Eiffel Tower, nor the pyramids, or anything else really. Like I said, one little slip-up, and you're done. And eye cancer and the other after-effects, well, lets not get into that. -Superstring |
I have bene wearing glasses since I was 12 yrs old.....
and every year my eye sight gets worse and worse.
I am 24 now and I am not even considering it until at least in my 30's as I want to make sure my eyes have stopped changing before I decide to get Lazor eye surgery.
B/c nothing would suck more than if I get it done than yrs down the road I have to wear glasses again. I would just about lose my mind if that happened 
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| Originally posted by dance2dabeat I have bene wearing glasses since I was 12 yrs old..... and every year my eye sight gets worse and worse. I am 24 now and I am not even considering it until at least in my 30's as I want to make sure my eyes have stopped changing before I decide to get Lazor eye surgery. B/c nothing would suck more than if I get it done than yrs down the road I have to wear glasses again. I would just about lose my mind if that happened |
^^^^^
when ur as blind as I am ...yeah it is definately worth it.
I just rather wait a little longer.
Wearing contacts for a long time
I wear contacts. My awake time in a day is typically around 15-18 hours (meaning i sleep only about 6-7 hours a day).
To combat the issues of fucking up contacts, I wear 2 pairs:
I pair one day, then let them soak for 36 hours while wearing another pair the next day. I find this:
a) helps to keep my eyes feelin' good
b) helps keeps contacts cleaner
c) makes 'em last longer (for example, a typical month's supply lasts about 3 months with me)
Cheers,
-Superstring
^^^^^
yeah i used to wear contacts all the time and glasses very rarely (like ony when i first woke up in the morning)
but I think over the yrs or my eyes drying out so bad and not being able to see clearly...my vision has gotten worse.
now i wear my glasses all the time..and my contacts mainly on wknds.
my eyes are very dry to begin with.
I actually went to the Herzig Eye Institute here in Toronto to get tested and see if I was a good candidate for the surgery (some people aren't - depends on several factors like the thickness of your corneas for instance). I was eligible, but still haven't gone for the surgery.
The cost was $2500 per eye and this is for what they call "high definition" laser surgery. I won't bore you with the details of how it works, but they claimed that after effects like halos and poor night vision were virtually non-existent.
I did ALOT of research before going to see them and Herzig is definitely considered to be one of the best, so I think paying any more than $2500 somewhere else is probably unnecessary.
One thing they did mention to me though, was that, just like most people in the world, your eyesight tends to get worse when you get older and no amount of laser surgery is going to change that.
The argument for getting the surgery is that, say you could get your eyesight to 20/20 today, then when you get older and your eyesight begins to deteriorate, you'd at least be starting from 20/20. If I don't get the surgery and my eyesight starts to get worse when I hit 50, I'll be blind!
Still too chickenshit to get it done though, despite knowing several people who swear it was the greatest thing they ever did.
Obe
I had laser eye surgery done last summer. I had it done at the Herzig Eye Institute the place obe mentioned above. Beforehand my vision was at -400 in each eye, (nearsighted) I could see well enough to find the bathroom at night but everything was a blur otherwise without glasses.
A couple things that some people seem to have misconceptions about is that your eyesight does not deteriorate as you get older, the muscles in your eyes do and thats why we require reading glasses, because our eyes can no longer focus tightly enough to see the written word or other things up close. Laser surgery only fixes the curvature of your eyes so that the light comes in at the correct angle (which it wont be doing if you require glasses), reading glasses are a totally different issue and that is why they can not be avoided by getting laser.
Now, is my vision amazing now? YES! I don't see the halos that everyone is talking about and it is a great freedom to go to the beach and on roller coasters and wake up in the morning and just be able to SEE!!! I love it personally.
They give you valium for the surgery and it calms you down nice. Afterwards you have to wear a contact lens 'bandage' for about half an hour before the doctor examines you again. After that they give you these sort of eye shield (they look sort of like athletic jocks only they're clear)with tape so that you can cover your eyes at night for the first 2 weeks and dont rub them and mess up the surgery in your sleep.
You cannot rub your eyes for like 2 months and to be honest that was fairly hellish lol but it was worth it looking back. The only thing I would have done differently in hindsight would be to do it during the winter because I have allergies in the summer and I really really would have liked to have rubbed my itchy eyes!!!! (I got it done in late July)
I was out driving the night I had the surgery with no problems.
I am 24 now and was 23 when I had the surgery done.
Any other questions? I hope I answered everyone's well enough and clearly enough.
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