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do professional dj's mime?
i find it hard to belive how good and faultless a lot of dj's mixes are...
i struggle to get studio quality mixes when playing live. at least one track goes off during two hours... but at home my mix discs sound as crisp as a commercial mix compilation.
what are the chances that a lot of dj's just 'act' out their mixing while a hidden prerecorded disc is playing?
ps. this aint trying to ruffle anyones feathers. im just curious
on bigger soundsystems its harder to hear mistakes anyway proffesional djs do make plenty of mistakes its just that u dont hear most of them
Re: do professional dj's mime?
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| Originally posted by richg101 i find it hard to belive how good and faultless a lot of dj's mixes are... i struggle to get studio quality mixes when playing live. at least one track goes off during two hours... but at home my mix discs sound as crisp as a commercial mix compilation. what are the chances that a lot of dj's just 'act' out their mixing while a hidden prerecorded disc is playing? ps. this aint trying to ruffle anyones feathers. im just curious |
i guess a quicker mix doesnt show up as much... but i always notice when my mixes dont sound 'perfect' on a big system. i have played on a 30k rig in a 2500 capacity club. i been mixing for longer than ferry corsten but i still dont think my mixes sound great out live. his do tho... its probably just me noticing my own mistakes too much.
yes, the booming soundsystem of a club, does spare alot of dj's blushes
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| Originally posted by wee_rooney i take it these "mix discs" dont include any Tiesto sets |
thats probably cose ur the one doing the mixing ur listening for the mistakes and correcting if need be the people on the dance floor more than likely wont be aware of ur mistakes
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| Originally posted by richg101 a great point! and it reminded me of something. dj tiesto- live innercity rai amsterdam 1999! this is apparently live mixed but every mix is perfect! anyone know what i mean? |
i might have guessed!
that cd is truly a work of art. not one non standout track!
fav: orbital velocity; the last voyage! never seen this for sale anywhere
thats shattered my respect a bit for the cd now.
I believe the t/l is the same, the set is basically the same. Just some of the mistakes have been fixed up (or at least the first mix)
the tiesto cd was re recorded in the studio of course, i couple of tracks are in different positions compared to the live set as well, its still a great cd though 
When I saw Oakenfold spin at Space 3/9/04 I swear I saw him getting a drink or chatting up some girls or something when I heard the next song queuing up. But he was back fast enough to not really have any hard evidence 
Once when i made a mix cd all was going well except one or two tracks didnt mix well so i remixed them and cut and paste it into the mix.
But if your saying to pre-record a set and play live then although iv neva played live its a definite no no.
honestly for a dj to really truly fake a performance would be more work than doing it live
if he was being watched by someone who knows something about djing... this mime dj would have to fade in at the exact same time as the pre recorded mix... eq at the same time... swap basslines at the same time
and on and on and on
if i found out that any dj (professional or not) was "miming" his/her performance i would be personally offended
and if word got out that a professional dj did something like that... it would put the integrity of this industry under great scrutiny and question
people would start doubting the credibility of this phenomenon of the "superstar dj"
you will hear your mix unravel in headphones before the crowd hears it over the speaker system when mixing live. no mater how loud it is. therefore you will alwasy have a small 'cushion'. if you record yourself mixing, and there was a part where you struggled, play that part on your stereo. unless you really messed up, it will not sound as bad as you remembered it. listen to that section again through your headphones, and you will notice your mistakes more than you did when you listened to it out the speakers just a couple of moments before.
this reminds me of the time i saw oakenfold last year.. or maybe the year before..? anyways
he was mixing so/so.. no trainwrecks.. and one time during the set he sat back and threw out the god pose.. (i know everyone talks shit and says he throws it out all the time, but i'm serious) and no joke, while he was standing there, hands away from the decks, the song transitioned to the next one.
at the time, i thought, "wow! he beatmatched and programmed the tracks so well that he didn't even have to correct or eq to pull off that transition!!!"
but now that i think about it... he could have very well just busted out a mix cd. i can't remember for sure, i was pretty fucked up..
and anyways, he ended up start/stopping TWICE! that night.. and then he left the stage abruptly a half hour early. it was an odd night.
maybe he had the runs
lol
anyway i suppose it is possible to do a "full" transition with no hands
provided they are beatmatched
it would have to be an instance where (for example) the incoming track was at "full eq" and the outgoing track was equed appropriately so the tracks sounded nice together
now... if the outgoing track was on an outro where the track fades out phrase by phrase in its original form it could very well seem like what you just described
either that or he played a pre-recorded mix
there was rumours goin about that he uses cd's with about 3 songs mixed together on each cd, so he only has to mix them every 3 songs!
dont know if theres any truth behind it though.
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