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Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-20-2005 01:26:

For People Who Genuinely Wish To Quit Smoking...





This is the book you need to purchase if you are genuinely serious about quitting smoking... this isnt some dodgy scam, where im getting paid 5cents per click or anything, but this is coming from someone who used to love smoking (or thought i did) and smoked when i drank, when i gurned and when i danced. And now.. I have no urge to at all... Im currently on Day 17 of the rest of my life of having no cigarettes again, ever...

I owe it to this book, which actually changed my mindset on what it was to smoke. Without patches, without feeling as though i was 'giving up' anything... Infact, it encourages you to smoke whilst you're reading the book.

This is serious, and seeing as it has worked for me then i wanted to pass this great bit of info onto you guys too. It is great....

The book is like $25 or $30 from Angus&Robertson or Collins Bookstores.

Up to you if you purchase and read it, but if you are serious about quitting, then you will do it!!!!!

One final point.... Ask yourself, what are you actually getting from smoking....


Posted by Virginia_L on Sep-20-2005 01:44:

Soup cares about us


Posted by Dean Millson on Sep-20-2005 01:47:

I have a number of friends who have given this book pretty much the same review soups, it sounds like it's a compelling read.

I think at least one of them has since started smoking again after giving up for some time, but i think that's more of a reflection on the reader as it was quite a while later.


Posted by Anomyst on Sep-20-2005 01:53:

SELF PROMOTION THREAD!!

Now he's plugging Books



hahaha, i have this book, and jono has the second one which is twice as fat for the softies that failed book 1.

I plan on reading it soon.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-20-2005 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Virginia_L
Soup cares about us


nah, soups is just addicted to thread-creation now

soups, could you scan the book for us and make it available in a .pdf file? whats so good about it? id love some help but am skeptical....


Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-20-2005 02:03:

you cheap bastard

if u wanted to quit, you would spend 25bux instaed of buying 2packs

its worth it if u actually want to quit, if not then it will sit on your bookshelf...

ive become one of those 'knowitallnonsmokers'
and yes gingin, i care about you!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-20-2005 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
you cheap bastard

if u wanted to quit, you would spend 25bux instaed of buying 2packs


thats like telling me im cheap if i wont buy vinyl without having heard a sample

id spend $200 on a book that would help me quit, but id be really unhappy to spend $5 on something that doesnt work or i dont like.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Sep-20-2005 02:10:

Guru soups


Posted by OLi_A on Sep-20-2005 02:17:

wow soups, youve impressed me

for those who think that it may be too hard for them to quit smoking, give the book a try (havent read it) but also consider the nicotine replacement therapies if you think going cold turkey will cause you too much anxiety
now for those who have tried it and claim that it doesnt work, id probably say that you may not have been ready to quit in the first place.
if you are considering using the patches/gum/inhaler, have a chat to your gp (hoping that he/she has any common sense) and plan it out. like with business, "people dont plan to fail, they fail to plan"
combination therapy (i.e. wearing patch, and then chewing gum when the urge is too great) is a good way to step down from addiction, but it has to be a serious attempt. even though they say you get over the withdrawl in the first few days, the nicotine receptors in your brain are still active for up to 8 weeks (im pretty sure) so thats why they recommend the program last for 8 weeks. also, from speaking to drug reps on the matter, they also recommend that even if your a 10 a day smoker, start on the strongest patch/gum and stay on it for the same length of time a heavy smoker does
all the NRT's only release about a third of what you get from a normal cigarette and are released much slower (20 minutes compared to 7 seconds) so therefore removing the "reward" you get from sucking down a fag.
the reason why i am arking on about this is that youve got a better chance of quitting if you use the NRT's properly and possibly overcome thoughts about failure last time round you tried to quit

my name is dr phil, and this is my dot com


Posted by charlee on Sep-20-2005 02:17:

Does it come in tape form?? I am not much of a reader


Posted by Light The Fuse on Sep-20-2005 02:18:

snoupy - forget quitting smoking - all u need is:-


Posted by queen_vee on Sep-20-2005 02:31:

I've heard the exact same story from someone in our office- she was a heavy smoker for 20 years or so, tried all sorts of ways to quit and couldn't til she read this book. She has not touched a cigarette since, so yeah, if you're serious about quitting, I'd say this is the way to go.


Posted by Anomyst on Sep-20-2005 02:32:

hahahaha, Stop raiding your mum's Vid collection


Posted by eRRaTiK on Sep-20-2005 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Anomyst
SELF PROMOTION THREAD!!

Now he's plugging Books





Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-20-2005 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by OLi_A
wow soups, youve impressed me

for those who think that it may be too hard for them to quit smoking, give the book a try (havent read it) but also consider the nicotine replacement therapies if you think going cold turkey will cause you too much anxiety
now for those who have tried it and claim that it doesnt work, id probably say that you may not have been ready to quit in the first place.
if you are considering using the patches/gum/inhaler, have a chat to your gp (hoping that he/she has any common sense) and plan it out. like with business, "people dont plan to fail, they fail to plan"
combination therapy (i.e. wearing patch, and then chewing gum when the urge is too great) is a good way to step down from addiction, but it has to be a serious attempt. even though they say you get over the withdrawl in the first few days, the nicotine receptors in your brain are still active for up to 8 weeks (im pretty sure) so thats why they recommend the program last for 8 weeks. also, from speaking to drug reps on the matter, they also recommend that even if your a 10 a day smoker, start on the strongest patch/gum and stay on it for the same length of time a heavy smoker does
all the NRT's only release about a third of what you get from a normal cigarette and are released much slower (20 minutes compared to 7 seconds) so therefore removing the "reward" you get from sucking down a fag.
the reason why i am arking on about this is that youve got a better chance of quitting if you use the NRT's properly and possibly overcome thoughts about failure last time round you tried to quit

my name is dr phil, and this is my dot com


thank you Oli A

i guess for anyoen who actually respects my opinion, then they could see that i could tell them it isnt that hard and for people like Jules who have said they wish to quit and who i think have got a bit of a brain in 'em to read a 200 page book, then they could use this to their advantage.

this book has a chapter on all the possible things you could ask about quitting smoking.. it addresses them all. admitedly he does repeat himself, but this is part of the solution. to get the message through

i would not advise nicotene replacement therapy.. because think about it.. its still fueling your body with what you're addicted to, but just in another form.. whatst he point of that!!!


and JPL - i already have buns o' steel


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-20-2005 02:48:


thats is pure gold erratik


Posted by sezzy on Sep-20-2005 02:52:

Rasta

he he nice one erratik

i've quit smoking during the week and have basically become a social smoker.

its a start at least


Posted by OLi_A on Sep-20-2005 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
thank you Oli A

i would not advise nicotene replacement therapy.. because think about it.. its still fueling your body with what you're addicted to, but just in another form.. whatst he point of that!!!


no probs mate
ok ive asked this question to myself a few times and it comes down to the behavioural aspect of smoking. as i mentioned, you can get over the physiological addiction to nicotine in a relatively short period, but it is the behaviours that are associated with reaching for a cigarette which are the hardest to overcome. because nicotine is a potent anti-depressant, when your feeling stressed, you have developed a reflex (for lack of a better term) to go for that smoke. because the action is associated with short term relief, the reflex becomes a very strong one.
even though your still introducing the drug into your body, it is at lower levels than that of what you would get from an actual cigarette, the reward is removed. as with any creature, we seek rewards (hence why some people find masturbating 10 times a day to not be a problem ) and the most effective way to stop a behaviour is to remove those rewards

/edit anf my man those are some wikked photochop skillz


Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-20-2005 03:38:

all those points are very correct and the book addresses them.

the end result is that you produce someone who has read the book who has a changed mindset and they realise they dont need to fallback no cigarettes as a social crutch or at times of stress


Posted by Aesthetic on Sep-20-2005 04:20:

hehe nice pic erratik

just outta curiosity how many smokes do you guys smoke per week?

for me its like 1-2 every weekday, and a "few more" on weekends.


Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-20-2005 04:42:

i was smoking roughly about 10-12 cigarettes aday, and then more on weekends....


trust me, it is a great day when you can look at a smoker and pity them for smoking instead of being a smoker and wondering why non-smokers dont know what they're missing out on

its all an illusiono!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-20-2005 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveBegic
just outta curiosity how many smokes do you guys smoke per week?

for me its like 1-2 every weekday, and a \"few more\" on weekends.


20-25 a day, more on weekends, maybe 40 or so if im at an event or a night on the piss (begic if you were allowed to take smoke breaks at work like me, i bet youd be smoking more! )

i pity me too soups

edit: have been smoking for 14 years too who's a stupid **** then?


Posted by gilmista on Sep-20-2005 04:50:

haha your pic is hilarious erratik.. just a slight fix up:



other than that, Soups you have sold me to the idea of buying the book. If it works I owe u big time !


Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-20-2005 04:58:

persistance in the key.. make sure u get through the book!!

PKC - you try it too

the guy who wrote it was smokign 100 a day!!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-20-2005 05:05:

will do buddy. comes in quite timely actually. was planning on a quitting crusade come november.

just hope its better than other non-music related suggestions you get on auTA *cough* begic\'s TV suggestions *cough*


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