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Subtle presents Subtara - Blue Midnight (Original Mix) 192 FULL

i havent produced anything in months, but out of nowhere i just sat down and made something..

style: trance
length: 8:54
bitrate: 192

programs used:
Cubase SX 3, Supersaw VST, ARP 2600, Hydra, z3ta+ and Ultra Analog

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Subtara - Blue Midnight (Original Mix)

Hey mate,

Great beginning of your track! Love that bassline and weird riff in the beginning of the track. Percussions are also great. Nice riff starting around 1.30. Now the track is starting to sound a bit Lololike (L-vee).

After that it takes quite a while for something else to happen to the track. At around 4 minutes another synthsound is introduced. Not really keen on that sound, it is a bit flat.

After 5,5 minutes the real leadsound is introduced, a really lovely leadsound I might add. Too bad it took 5,5 minutes to get to that point Also when the other synthmelody comes on top over it the leadsynth almost gets lost (I suggest you lower the volume of that other synthsound and also don't let it come back immediately once you let the kick kick back in).

At the end of the day it is quite an intresting track once you get to hear the whole concept. But frankly it takes a bit too long to get to the climax. I loved the percussion in this work and the overall atmosphere reminds a bit like something L-Vee could have done so those are big plusses.

Cheers!

thx for the thorough feedback

Laurent is my #1 influence, i guess ive been kinda stuck on that lead sound, blinded.. and i guess i do have to change it afterall..

Great intro to the track. Really sets up a solid feel for it. Good work on the melodic bassline too. Really carries the track along nicely so it never feels like its sitting still.

I was expecting something more melodic to be dropped in at 3.00 considering the feel of the intro. It just kinda progs out a bit here which is ok.

4.12 Melody doesnt really catch me. Has the making of something cool, but I think it could resolve to something a bit better.

5.30 is really nice. Wasnt expecting that. I think the supersaw could be a bit lighter though. It kinda ruins that lovely arp.

Overall, nice track but could do with some changes to the structure.

great tune.. something different. Like it just the way it is. A lot different from Marajana ;p
send it to the big boys

Hey man, good to hear some more trance from you!
I love the way this track keeps rolling on, getting more and more intense without ever really letting up. Really nice flow and quite subtle (sorry, no pun intended..)
The rhythm works really well - nice deep and groovy bass coupled with excellent percs. Fx are superb too.
At 1:30 when it's just the rhythm, fx and that cool pad sound, this tune just cranks, there's something that reminds me of involver in it. In fact the whole tune flows really nicely and reminds me of that album.
The arp that comes in around 5:24 is really lush, nice work on that one!
Overall a top tune man, I really liked it. Nothing more to add.

not bad

I would like to hear something massive, dark, melodic and melancholic from you

feedback

i prefer if the distord saw stab is large & fat

overall chill tune for me

cheers!

Alright i decided to give a more detailed comments from now on.

Well i think u got the sound that many tried to achieve but couldnt. Damn.. but good job on this aspect...

Intro: looking good

Buildup: i was expecting something after the mini break at 257... u came in with a new sound at 355 which i thought was kinda too late cos i will be bored by the 1st 3 minutes

Breakdown: Looking great...that delayed synth at 525 is the sound of the song... i like!!! teach me how to achieve it.. i always fail...

Climax: I think there is a problem here ...when the breakdown ends i dont really feel like im going to get to the climax...maybe b4 all the elements return on 555 u could use like drum roll or some sort to hype up to the climax.

Outro: No problems

Structure: JUST maybe the mini break could come in earlier so that the buildup can be longer to dance 2. For example, from the end of the mini break at 257 to the start of the breakdown 440 is like 1 min plus. i usually go for 2 to 230 min.. maybe im wrong here.. but im looking from a clubber point of view.

Overall: 6/10
Soundwise is there...but it is not tempting enough for me to be played in my set.

Great potential anyway ( compared to my sound, im like ffffffffffffarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr away) Keep up the good work ..

Hope to hear more from you too!!!

Axolotyl: thx, kinda agree on the supersaw there

djjeesh: i wish, just not there yet

pho mo: thx, involver is a nice compliment, thx for thorough feedback

Salegon: i thought this was massive and dark

ac dc: thx, i kinda like things being a bit repetetive with subtle changes, and a climax that comes very far in the track, but ur right, it might be boring, thats not the intention though, i might add something to keep it more interesting, and btw, the sound on 5:25 can easily be acheived as with arpeggiated notes and a preset from z3ta+ with stereo expansion on

thx for good feedback everybody

too many subtle puns... this would pwn any club

I like the precs and the bass.
The phaser effect is nice but I would add more delay to it, panned delay.
The choir is nice but I would add more layers to it.
2:15 nice back precs effect
I like that arp there too.
omg that fx was great
I like the melody.
I already told you to not use the supersaw.
It doesn't fit.
WOOT OMG ARP SOUND
I like it
when everything else enters it becomes a real mess.
I think that it is repeatetive.

3.5/5

Omer

firstly, i was expecting something along the lines of push-blue midnight. but...

sounds really fresh from the start. nice bassline.

the sweeping sound that starts at 0;45 gets a bit repetetive and could be used a bit less often..

great arrangement that would be very dj friendly.

full sounding.

break: nice but not quite epic enough for me... main melody is also pleasant. maybe a different synth tho.. sounds a bit softwareish.

melody@5;30 is really nice and a lot more pro sounding.

main section; very full but i think some of those softwarey synths hold it back... as said by drow; sounds a bit chaotic.

6;57- sounds a lot more to my likeing.

overall a nice track that sounds like it would integrate well within a mix.

by the way... how do i control soft synths using cubase? im only using hardware at the mo..

rich

ps. subtle, i remember you being a bit of a m.i.k.e fan. im influenced by him a lot so you may like my stuff... please check my dj eau rmx slightly down the list of threads... or on my website

richg101: thx for feedback, yeah im not the biggest fan of software sounds, im not sure how u control software in Cubase as i dont do that..
M.I.K.E is my favorite producer indeed, a pure genious..

i will check out ur music, thx again

Hey Subtle, very nice track mate! Let me try and do a review type thingy though...

Ok firstly that intro is quality. Great percs and bass; it really had me tapping my feet! The break starting at 2:12 is really nice. It gives that haunting pad synth some space to do it's stuff. The effects have been pretty cool too so far. 4 minutes now, and the track has been building up a lot. The high up and down lead is very nice sounding (cool melody on that one), but the synth that comes in at 4:10 just seems to muddle up the mix a bit. Now the disappointing thing is, I know it would sound excellent if it was more... well, subtle. You could maybe try changing it for some kind of plucky sound. Another break at 5 minutes, and I get that ominous feeling that it's all gonna kick back in. Ah, new melody though (an one that takes you to the end of the song). Once the melodies have gone we're left with that cool distorted synth (very nice). Now I may be strange but I seemed to be getting into the parts without melodies (intro and outro especially) more than the rest of the tune. Yeah, I must be weird.

Good tune overall! I liked how it builds itself up, but sometimes I think it may be taking too long. Don't be scared to introduce more than one element at a time! Really cool atmosphere you've created for this though. I'll be listening to this one a few more times.

Thanks for sharing!

Cool percs, yeah. The bassline is nice, but has a nasty flopp-sound every time it starts to play a note. After hearing the whole song, I kinda feel that is was a bit too repetetive.. Like, the same over and over.. But cool groove to this one

some quality stuff as always! i'm used to hear good stuff from you and this track is no exception!

Quite a nice tune, definately some neat Lolo influences

I don't really like the synth at 4:10, seems totally out of place for the track... Also don't like the pattern it plays. I'd love to hear the full track without it actually. Up to you of course

Cheers,
Wim

Fundamental: thx for feedback , damn, i need to change that main lead..

Pea: i kinda noticed the muffled sound, i better try to ignore it

Klangz: danke

Icone: thx, well i started the track based on that riff, and now it turns out it doesnt fit after all, i tried various types of lead sounds as well, none worked.. well, i might make a dub

thanks again

okay, commenting as I listen
Nice rythm, heavy kick. Not bad at all how you start this.
lol, that phaser FX starting at 0:45 sounds exactly like the one in "Star Wash - Disco Fans", a 1996 rave classic
Completely loving all the percussive elements you've thrown in...
All in all, the buildup is very slow, that is a stylistic device too, but I agree that there might be more going on.
2:55 ... I'm not such a huge fan of the metallic lead thing, it doesnt really correspond with the rest of the tune... just my impression tho.
I'd soften the notes of the lead @5:00 and remove the noise on them a little. Might again just be my taste... The melody is not bad though.
6:53 is again very nice. Very dreamy feeling to that tune which I like.

Quite a good tune, I agree that it might need some more interchange and little fixes, but basically you got a good looking track you can be very content with.

Hi... jsut listened to your track, here are some opinions:

The beat in the beginning grooves well, nice sound effects also...
Sounds very promising... the percussion/effects after 3:20 are really cool. The main melody is a bit of a let-down, too repetitive without any rhythmic variations. On all of these elements you could really build a smashing track by developing the main melody because now it�s not memorable enough...

Best regards, Lakeus

Cool sampling.

4:13 kinda ruined the groove for me. Consider a different synth, maybe.

Good track. I liked it a lot once things really got going.

very nice track...keep good working !!

Hi dude,

Nice starting track with firm beat, I like that. Nice little effects and stabs.
Percussion sounds good, though minimal in the real upfront ones. No complaints about that.
At 3:00 I'm still waiting for a theme and a hook.. I like the sounds in it but I'm missing a good fill. At 4 some arps and leads come in. Bit disappointed by those. They just come in unannounced and I dont actually like the melody nor the sound. Pluck in the break around 5:30 I like better, but this one is a bit dry and loud. After the break it's just too much sounds I guess, it doesnt grab me I'm sorry to say.
Still some positive points here about the percussion and the drive, you should continue with things like that and give some more attention to a hook in the track.
Technical side is ok, maybe the kick drowns here and here and the upper high end could use a mastering boost for crispness.

Overall not bad, keep up m8.

Wicked tune, love the whole thing lol

Can't really fault the production, wicked fx etc all the way through, good synth sounds and perc.

Generally liking it a lot

8/10

(Scale: 0 = don't bother, 1-3 = needs work, 4-5 = nearly there, 6-8 = releasable, 9-10 = outstanding)

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